More potentially bad news about Diallo

[SilentsAreGolden]

MJ just said that he heard initially Diallo got the invite where he would have to play at the combine, but when it was communicated that he would likely not go, it was changed to the invite where you just have to get measured and can play if you want. That's what the first rounders get.

 

[track42]

Oh well.Go get Johnson and Bamba.

 

[KINGBEAST]

I hate to say it but I'm ready to let him go. Tired of stressing over it.

 

[Crankdatmustard]

Don't see how this is bad news. But whatever

 

[ukmelanie]

I love Cal but if this doesn't pan out I just hope he never even considers this again.Johnson is a must get with 3 guards on our roster.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

If all of that is true, it says to me that he was worried having to play would hurt his stock. That doesn't sound like he is interested in getting feedback to work on, and is definitely wanting to go. Could be wrong, but that's may guess. If true, I wish he would go ahead and announce he's not coming back, so we can move on.

 

[Calsthebomb]

Shit!!!

 

[Dream Team 13]

I was worried about this since he came to campus. In the end, I think he stays at UK but that's just if he can't get a team to say they'll take him around 20-25. Still, I think I'd do the same thing in his position

 

[docholiday51]

Maybe he will just get drafted and never play in the NBA either,seems like he is reluctant to play anywhere.

 

[madison1329]

IF TRUE, this kid sure seems scared of actually having to play and compete. Wonder if he plans on sitting out of the summer league as well?

 

[floatingyou]

This kid sure seems scared of actually having to play and compete. Wonder if he plans on sitting out of the summer league as well?

lol

 

[KMKAT]

Could this open up an avenue for more recruits to not even play in college, attend 1 semester, than declare?

 

[kydmb99]

Who cares? I'm over it at this point. If he decides to play here, great. If not, I hope it turns it out well for him but I won't be following him.

 

[TBCat]

If all of that is true, it says to me that he was worried having to play would hurt his stock. That doesn't sound like he is interested in getting feedback to work on, and is definitely wanting to go. Could be wrong, but that's may guess. If true, I wish he would go ahead and announce he's not coming back, so we can move on.

Am I reading this wrong? I thought the change was on the invite which was sent to him. To me this doesn't signify any changes in Diallo's thought process.

 

[kydmb99]

Could this open up an avenue for more recruits to not even play in college, attend 1 semester, than declare?

Can't wait until we have 6 players sit out, declare, get drafted in the first round and listen to Cal talk about how it's the greatest day in the history of the program.

 

[cbrwalt]

Many on here called coach K out for playing Giles and letting his stock drop

But now are upset with the possibility of Diallo protecting his NBA stock

seems like a bit of hypocrisy to me

 

[Kampus Korner]

MJ just said that he heard initially Diallo got the invite where he would have to play at the combine, but when it was communicated that he would likely not go, it was changed to the invite where you just have to get measured and can play if you want. That's what the first rounders get.

Since I didn't hear what Matt said, I need more explanation to appreciate how this may be "bad" regarding Diallo. I can't tell from the original post.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Am I reading this wrong? I thought the change was on the invite which was sent to him. To me this doesn't signify any changes in Diallo's thought process.

To be honest, I don't know, I'm just passing on what MJ said he heard. That the invite was originally the kind where you have to play. He said Diallo was not going to go, but then the invite was changed to where he doesn't have to play. I certainly have not been in the camp bashing him over this whole thing, but it does appear that he is not wanting to show how good he is before he gets a contract. Whatever.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

If all of that is true, it says to me that he was worried having to play would hurt his stock. That doesn't sound like he is interested in getting feedback to work on, and is definitely wanting to go. Could be wrong, but that's may guess. If true, I wish he would go ahead and announce he's not coming back, so we can move on.

He has until the 24th to announce. FWIW, I don't see how this could be taken as bad news. If he doesn't play, how is he going to improve his stock? All this hand wringing is unnecessary.

 

[ukmelanie]

Many on here called coach K out for playing Giles and letting his stock drop

But now are upset with the possibility of Diallo protecting his NBA stock

seems like a bit of hypocrisy to me

That poor kid Giles had enough knee surgeries to last a lifetime.Much different than a healthy kid choosing not to play.

 

[Cats192]

The sense is that, the type 1 invite is for players being perceived to go higher in the draft. The type 2 is for players slotted to go lower.

It gives NBA teams a chance to better evaluate them.

If you get the type 1 invite, you have to assume you're viewed as a better prospect, and thus are more likely to leave.

I agree with Silentsaregolden...if the kid doesn't want to play to try to improve his stock...he really wants to hide himself, which means he's most likely gone.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Are we sure Hamidou Diallo isn't just a bunch of squirrels in a trench coat that will topple over if forced to run?

 

[Cats192]

Many on here called coach K out for playing Giles and letting his stock drop

But now are upset with the possibility of Diallo protecting his NBA stock

seems like a bit of hypocrisy to me

I don't care that he didn't play. He told Cal he'd come here if he didn't have to play, Cal agreed. No sense in being upset. He wouldn't have come here if Cal said no. We took a chance hoping that the kid would stay. He practiced against our guys and hopefully helped them improve.

But, I don't get sitting out the combine scrimmages. He's a fringe 1st rounder. He doesn't need to protect himself. That's for surefire lottery picks. He needs to solidify himself as a first rounder.

 

[lkc1234]

Can't wait until we have 6 players sit out, declare, get drafted in the first round and listen to Cal talk about how it's the greatest day in the history of the program.

The greatest day on this board would be when you quit posting.

 

[cbrwalt]

That poor kid Giles had enough knee surgeries to last a lifetime.Much different than a healthy kid choosing not to play.

In some ways its not different
If Diallo has a weakness he doesnt want exposed
Giles weakness was his knees, Diallo's may be his shot

 

[docholiday51]

Many on here called coach K out for playing Giles and letting his stock drop

But now are upset with the possibility of Diallo protecting his NBA stock

seems like a bit of hypocrisy to me

We seem to see that word thrown around a lot here regarding Diallo,,most who had reservations about taking a kid in his particular situation when it happened in January expressed the same concerns then and now.I don't see any hypocrisy in taking that position.Honestly what Coach K and Giles did or didn't do I don't give 2 hoots one way or the other, it is their business and had no effect on UK whatsoever.

 

[bookerfan66]

Just being realistic if Johnson goes to Arizona it's going to be rough with 3 guards on our roster.

 

[Cats192]

In some ways its not different
If Diallo has a weakness he doesnt want exposed
Giles weakness was his knees, Dialo's may be his shot

He's allowed to do whatever he wants. As someone who wants him back, it makes sense that not playing doesn't actually help him.

If I'm being told I'm a fringe first rounder and wanting a 1st round guarantee--I play and try to solidify myself as a 1st rounder.

If you fail to do so, you play in college for a year and then you're for sure a 1st rounder.
But, he didn't want to play in college the last 6 months. He does't want to play in the combine. Has there ever been a kid that wanted to hide himself so badly?

I get Giles.

I get the College Running backs that sat out bowl games.

I don't get this.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

He has until the 24th to announce. FWIW, I don't see how this could be taken as bad news. If he doesn't play, how is he going to improve his stock? All this hand wringing is unnecessary.

No hand-wringing here. The idea is this. How is he going to get feedback on what he would need to work on for next year's draft, if he doesn't play? Seems like it indicates he is wanting to go this year. Could be wrong.

 

[brianpoe]

MJ just said that he heard initially Diallo got the invite where he would have to play at the combine, but when it was communicated that he would likely not go, it was changed to the invite where you just have to get measured and can play if you want. That's what the first rounders get.

If all of that is true, it says to me that he was worried having to play would hurt his stock. That doesn't sound like he is interested in getting feedback to work on, and is definitely wanting to go. Could be wrong, but that's may guess. If true, I wish he would go ahead and announce he's not coming back, so we can move on.

The sense is that, the type 1 invite is for players being perceived to go higher in the draft. The type 2 is for players slotted to go lower.

It gives NBA teams a chance to better evaluate them.

If you get the type 1 invite, you have to assume you're viewed as a better prospect, and thus are more likely to leave.

I agree with Silentsaregolden...if the kid doesn't want to play to try to improve his stock...he really wants to hide himself, which means he's most likely gone.

I don't see how you guys come to this conclusion?

Silence is correct, this invite is what early projectors receive, but Diallo is an early 2nd rounder...?

A GM that draft's a kid based upon measurements and layup line performance after refusing to play college and refusing to play evaluation scrimmages should be fired on the spot.

UNLESS, a team has already promised him a slot and does not want to lose him... maybe?

This is getting weird.

 

[ganner918]

Could this open up an avenue for more recruits to not even play in college, attend 1 semester, than declare?

Why even attend college? Take a "gap year," work with a personal trainer, then go to the draft.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

I see your point Brian, but the truth is none of us know what is going on with this kid. I still want him, and I am not bashing him, but I have been getting the feeling more and more that he is leaning towards going. I can see how this news could give be read either way though. Just want it to be over.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Could this open up an avenue for more recruits to not even play in college, attend 1 semester, than declare?

This only worked because he fit the rules of the NBA entry. He was already 1 year removed from school. Most kids would need to wait the full year after HS so they may as well play.

 

[docholiday51]

He's allowed to do whatever he wants. As someone who wants him back, it makes sense that not playing doesn't actually help him.

If I'm being told I'm a fringe first rounder and wanting a 1st round guarantee--I play and try to solidify myself as a 1st rounder.

If you fail to do so, you play in college for a year and then you're for sure a 1st rounder.
But, he didn't want to play in college the last 6 months. He does't want to play in the combine. Has there ever been a kid that wanted to hide himself so badly?

I get Giles.

I get the College Running backs that sat out bowl games.

I don't get this.

You are not alone,this seems to make less and less sense as it drags out,we probably will never know the whole/real story.It would appear that he never intended to play in college but feels he is not ready for the NBA but is trying to sneak in the back door.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Do I WISH he didn't care about draft position, and that he would have played spring semester and possibly helped us to #9? Hell yes. Do I disparage the kid for doing what's best to be drafted as high as he possibly can? Hell no.

 

[btownblue]

I love Cal but if this doesn't pan out I just hope he never even considers this again.Johnson is a must get with 3 guards on our roster.

Why? What did it hurt?

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

This only worked because he fit the rules of the NBA entry. He was already 1 year removed from school. Most kids would need to wait the full year after HS so they may as well play.

Exactly. Which is why I found the hypotheticals being bandied about the past days ludicrous. Very few players even qualify for this kind of thing. The hypotheticals would require players to come to UK and sit out the whole year. Just a laughable thing to even ponder. As if they wouldn't be kicked off the team immediately.

 

[KMKAT]

Would not surprise me to see more 'marginal' college kids take the route Diallo is exploring now.

You get your practice time and use of the facilities. This could have benefitted Malik Newman and the brothers from Memphis to hide some of their actual skillset.

 

[HoptownCat93]

The NBA is moving towards a 3-point oriented league. They now love wing-3's that can handle and shoot like Iggy and Stretch 4's who can play the 5 like Draymond and KAT.

If you are a guard in todays NBA, it is a MUST that you are able to shoot a 3...and if you are a 2 guard it is a requirement. Diallo has not shown that he can hit a jumper consistently and that's why I can't see a team taking a 1st round risk on him without seeing him play first.

 

[track42]

Why? What did it hurt?

Well I'm guessing Cal's plan was not for Jamarl Baker to possibly be our starting shooting guard.No way Cal does this again IF Diallo leaves.