Monk is Next
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Nowhere near the handle of Julius and not as polished on offense, but motor, energy, attitude, very comparable.
I think Bam is about an inch or so taller and a little better reach, so I think he has the tools to be a better rebounder and rim defender. I think he could probably out-jump Randle as well. Ultimately, I think he can impact the game and be as good a player for us as JR.
I think Bam is about an inch or so taller and a little better reach, so I think he has the tools to be a better rebounder and rim defender. I think he could probably out-jump Randle as well. Ultimately, I think he can impact the game and be as good a player for us as JR.
He has taken on that role his whole college career. An no, he hasn't been UK's best player. He's been solid against inferior competition. Like I said, Willis will start only if Gabriel needs more time to develop.
Seem to recall us UK fans saying the same thing about a certain running back recently. We all know how that turned out.
Bam is a mini Dwight Howard. His frame is almost identical to Howard's.
I agree 100% 2016 recruiting class will be the best yet when Monk comes on board.
From a ranking standpoint I believe you are correct however from a pure talent standpoint this class could be better. While they all had successful careers at UK I don't believe Andrew, Aaron, Dakari and Marcus (still yet to be seen) totally lived up to their rankings specifically Andrew. Also, I believe the overall talent of the 2016 class is better than the 2013 class.
Landing Monk would be the icing on the cake since he was considered to be Arkansas's to lose for so long. That would also give us the best PG, the best SG, the 2nd best PF in my opinion in Adebayo, the 3rd best PF in my opinion in Gabriel (anyone ranking Thon Maker ahead of either of those two is a joke), and one of the biggest surprise players of the summer and one of the most skilled big men in the country in Killeya-Jones. I couldn't be happier with that class if it happens.
Somewhat unrelated, but Rick Barnes just called to remove Tennessee from contention for Monk's services......FWIW ![[banana]](https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/891/1682178.gif "banana [banana]")
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.we are back to having non uk fans saying too many egos to manage, not enough PT from uk doesnt have enough depth.
whatever you all need to tell yourself to feel better i suppose.
i would just rather a nice "thank you". a thank you for cal not going and taking your guy too. now instead of worry about uk....go beat out houston or alabama for a recruit and try not to screw him the kids future.
whatever you all need to tell yourself to feel better i suppose.
i would just rather a nice "thank you". a thank you for cal not going and taking your guy too. now instead of worry about uk....go beat out houston or alabama for a recruit and try not to screw him the kids future.
This class is more talented in terms of NBA Potential then Randle/Young/Harrisons etc......but what that group achieved in college is pretty damn special and some are forgetting how clutch Young/Twins/Randle played when it mattered and how valuable other guys were (Dakari especially on the '14 team)--heck Hawkins did a great job in Michigan game defending Stauskas.
Again--I am not even a UK fan--but I'll stick up for that group more then some of BBN, lol.
My comparisons for the class you're putting together would be
Bam--Joey Dorsey with more talent. Dorsey was one of Cal's favorites at Memphis and brought toughness, warrior mentality. Bam is more skilled then some talk about--but he's a warrior on glass and best rebounder Cal has recruited to UK.
Gabriel--Think Donyell Marshall type. (know some fans are young--but Marshall was a long versatile forward from UConn who could do it all at college level).
SKJ-- Harry Giles lite. Similar approach to game but less dominant.. Skilled but needs to get tougher.
Fox-- Nick Van Exel scoring with John Wall athleticism.
Monk-- If Bradley Beal had Russell Westbrook's athleticism. (so imo you would basically have a version of Wizards backcourt with Fox/Monk being Wall/Beal but with better shooting from Fox then Wall and Monk being superior athlete to Beal)
Again--I am not even a UK fan--but I'll stick up for that group more then some of BBN, lol.
My comparisons for the class you're putting together would be
Bam--Joey Dorsey with more talent. Dorsey was one of Cal's favorites at Memphis and brought toughness, warrior mentality. Bam is more skilled then some talk about--but he's a warrior on glass and best rebounder Cal has recruited to UK.
Gabriel--Think Donyell Marshall type. (know some fans are young--but Marshall was a long versatile forward from UConn who could do it all at college level).
SKJ-- Harry Giles lite. Similar approach to game but less dominant.. Skilled but needs to get tougher.
Fox-- Nick Van Exel scoring with John Wall athleticism.
Monk-- If Bradley Beal had Russell Westbrook's athleticism. (so imo you would basically have a version of Wizards backcourt with Fox/Monk being Wall/Beal but with better shooting from Fox then Wall and Monk being superior athlete to Beal)
I'm not bashing you at all bro. But I don't think you realize how good Gabriel is. I love Willis and he's going to play a lot. But he'll probably have to be the 6th man,
When its all said and done and the final rankings come out I think Fox, Monk, Gabriel, Bam, SKJ will all be top 15 players. With Fox, Monk, and Bam being top 10. SKJ could be top 10 too IMO. He should, and will end up being rated above all of Isiaac, Leaf, Bolden, Huell, and Allen. He'll at least end up like 12th or 13th, but I swear I think he may end up top 10 too. SKJ is really, really good. Also if Ulis leaves I would LOVE for us to pick up Alkins. But if Ulis leaves here's my lineup
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Bam
SKJ
Willis
Mathews
Humphries
Wynyard
Willis could be the best 6th man in the country. And also some people aren't realizing hown damn good Wenyen Gabriel is. That kid is a monster. And this class is just loaded. Not too much difference in the top 10. Most years Gabriel would already be top 10.
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Bam
SKJ
Willis
Mathews
Humphries
Wynyard
Willis could be the best 6th man in the country. And also some people aren't realizing hown damn good Wenyen Gabriel is. That kid is a monster. And this class is just loaded. Not too much difference in the top 10. Most years Gabriel would already be top 10.
When its all said and done and the final rankings come out I think Fox, Monk, Gabriel, Bam, SKJ will all be top 15 players. With Fox, Monk, and Bam being top 10. SKJ could be top 10 too IMO. He should, and will end up being rated above all of Isiaac, Leaf, Bolden, Huell, and Allen. He'll at least end up like 12th or 13th, but I swear I think he may end up top 10 too. SKJ is really, really good. Also if Ulis leaves I would LOVE for us to pick up Alkins. But if Ulis leaves here's my lineup
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Bam
SKJ
Willis
Mathews
Humphries
Wynyard
Willis could be the best 6th man in the country. And also some people aren't realizing hown damn good Wenyen Gabriel is. That kid is a monster. And this class is just loaded. Not too much difference in the top 10. Most years Gabriel would already be top 10.
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Bam
SKJ
Willis
Mathews
Humphries
Wynyard
Willis could be the best 6th man in the country. And also some people aren't realizing hown damn good Wenyen Gabriel is. That kid is a monster. And this class is just loaded. Not too much difference in the top 10. Most years Gabriel would already be top 10.
Hey somebody that knows this answer. Tell me. How good of a 3pt shooter is Monk? I've only seen his mixtapes. He looks like he's got a good stroke and we already know he's a freak of nature athletically.
I agree the kids are the innocent ones, but fabricated success?? Say what?? 5 Titles, 9 title game appearances and well over 1,000 wins is not fabricated success.
And I'm assuming that's taking quite a few shots too. So he's probably a pretty good 3pt shooter. That's my only real concern for next year. But if Willis keeps it up he can be our sharpshooter
most AAU stats are lower than they should be. bad teams, lots of forced shots, 2 games in a day.
Dwight Howard isn't 6'11" despite him listed like that. Probably more likely 6'9" than 6'11". Look at him compared to LeBron
That could be the camera angle too.Dwight Howard isn't 6'11" despite him listed like that. Probably more likely 6'9" than 6'11". Look at him compared to LeBron
I agree with most of your assessment, and nobody should mistake Bam for a stretch type player, never even seen him take a long jumper (though Cal will fix that before draft day) but I've seen clips of him leading the fast break, dribbling with both hands and absolutely tearing down the court - he doesn't have the ball skills of Randle, for sure, but I was very surprised at the handles he does have, not to mention some of the up-and-unders, spins to the basket, etc. All the fundamental skills he needs to be an A++ post player are either there or have the potential to develop.
Remember when posters were wondering why Cal visited Giles late in the process when everybody thought he was Duke bound, this is why.
This is what Bam's coach said and it is quite telling why Cal still recruits players when everybody thinks they are ___ bound, "He really, really wanted Bam. Now, I don’t know how much of a shot he thought he had at him, but he stayed in it even when everything else was apparently pointing elsewhere."
This is what Bam's coach said and it is quite telling why Cal still recruits players when everybody thinks they are ___ bound, "He really, really wanted Bam. Now, I don’t know how much of a shot he thought he had at him, but he stayed in it even when everything else was apparently pointing elsewhere."
The haters and rivals don't want to admit this is true, but I truly believe it is. ANY kid, when presented with the opportunity to be a centerpiece of a Calipari Kentucky team, HAS to listen, no matter who is behind his recruitment or where he's considering. Cal won't land them all, but you can sure as hell bet that everyone at least listens to the offer with true intent.
At the 2004 draft combine, Howard measured 6'9" in bare feet, 6'10.25" in shoes. Lebron was 6'7.25", 6'8".
lets see where this classes players are ranked at the end of their senior season...several will jump up higher than where they are now...might be much different than you think
D1Circuit.com says Monk's career 3 point field goal percentage is 33%. Max Preps says De'Aaron Fox's career 3 point field goal percentage is 34% and that he shot it at 29% last season. In comparison. The twins and Young shot it at 31-33% for their careers in high school.
Pretty soon we won't have to play the games. People are getting so scary good at predicting the future.
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John, you don't know? Duke basketball is fake. Sorry bro, imagine WWE. It's all scripted, except the variable of human resilience. Human resilience is the only thing that can beat a script.
Somewhat unrelated, but Rick Barnes just called to remove Tennessee from contention for Monk's services......FWIW
this is the first one I've seen, I hope it's the only one.
Disagree. Awesome group of players and young men. It's likely that some of those guys won more games in two years than any in NCAA history(not stating as fact but I think it's probable). But, as much as I will always honor them, their commitment, effort, heck, character as a great group of players who represented my professional alma matter, they didn't win the big one. I think it could be debated ad nauseum, but I would pick Cal's first class at UK and certainly Davis, Teague, Mkg over the twins, Dakari, et al.
And Dakari was the top center that year...who was no better than, well hell, one of the plumlees. Can't just go by a class and those players in it, as we all know some years are more stacked than others. As posted, Dakari couldn't jump over a piece of paper, he'd have to slide it out of the way to get to the basket.
Does Wynard have vision problems? Pretty sure he will see the floor next season.
