Missing Out On Jasper and Moreno

[W1LDCAT22]

There are now strong rumblings that Kentucky may miss-out on both Jasper Johnson and Malachi Moreno, with Alabama and UNC now looking like leaders for Jasper and Moreno possibly leaning towards Indiana. What's everyone thoughts on possibly missing out on two, high-profile in-state kids to our rivals? It's very rare that the state of Kentucky produces two top-30 highschool prospects, and even more rare that neither may not be suiting up in Kentucky blue.

EDIT: Just seen the similar post about this topic, however, cannot read the OP's message to due having white font lol.

 

[NociHTTP]

There are now strong rumblings that Kentucky may miss-out on both Jasper Johnson and Malachi Moreno, with Alabama and UNC now looking like leaders for Jasper and Moreno possibly leaning towards Indiana. What's everyone thoughts on possibly missing out on two, high-profile in-state kids to our rivals? It's very rare that the state of Kentucky produces two top-30 highschool prospects, and even more rare that neither may not be suiting up in Kentucky blue.

EDIT: Just seen the similar post about this topic, however, cannot read the OP's message to due having white font lol.

That person you're referring to has been told by many here that his text is unreadable, but he's chosen to be difficult about it. It's his 15 minutes of fame. CMP hasn't coached a game yet for UK, and I'm going way out on a limb here by suggesting that maybe there's been enough folks in the player's circles here in Kentucky that have suggested that CMP was the wrong guy to be picked for UK's coach. And kid's today don't really seem to follow tradition or want to follow in the footsteps of others.

 

[kydmb99]

I'm way more worried about success in the transfer portal than I am recruiting 5 star 17 year old's now.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

There are now strong rumblings that Kentucky may miss-out on both Jasper Johnson and Malachi Moreno, with Alabama and UNC now looking like leaders for Jasper and Moreno possibly leaning towards Indiana. What's everyone thoughts on possibly missing out on two, high-profile in-state kids to our rivals? It's very rare that the state of Kentucky produces two top-30 highschool prospects, and even more rare that neither may not be suiting up in Kentucky blue.

EDIT: Just seen the similar post about this topic, however, cannot read the OP's message to due having white font lol.

Freshman five stars want a guaranteed starting spot and unlimited playing time since they only plan on being there for one year. They'll get that promise at some schools but not at UK anymore. Totally works for me.

 

[WeWant9]

Have either set up announcement dates? Really no sense getting worked up until it gets close to them picking a school, the recruiting guys will probably flip their picks several times before then.

 

[UK-chulo]

They are not worth the million and a half each they will want for their freshman year. We pay that same money to a proven portal player and get way more bang for the buck imo.

 

[BarefootBeach]

I hope your not premature with everything, lol

 

[CELTICAT]

It’ll be disappointing but with the transfer portal we’ll survive.

 

[RunninRichie]

It'll sting. Optics will be bad. But we will survive.

 

[TucsonCat]

It’ll be disappointing but with the transfer portal we’ll survive.

Not positive results from this year prove that yet.

 

[kyboy1998]

I thought we landed Derrick Jasper and BCG ruined his leg?

Well let’s hope he comes.

 

[SemperFiCat]

Man, a fantastic new era hasn't even started yet, and people are trying to wet blanket it over stuff that hasn't even happened yet. People, Pope put together a fine roster in about 24 hours. Let it play out. Enjoy being present.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I mean he’s been here 8 weeks and the transfer portal is the way to success anyway

 

[megablue]

I'm way more worried about success in the transfer portal than I am recruiting 5 star 17 year old's now.

With the ability to pick up experienced, proven college players via the portal, you are correct … most high-schoolers are unpredictable at the next level, despite their high rankings, and are often not the best option in recruiting.

 

[BarefootBeach]

Similar to other comments, I'm just not worried about recruiting with pope. I'm not wearing blue tinted glasses at the moment but I just think that the combination of style of play, the UK brand, and pope's personality will make it impossible for him not to recruit at the highest level. I'm still giddy to have Cal gone, true. I know opposing coaches are planting all kinds of doubt in recruit's ears, but that won't last long if they see his system working and they can envision playing in that same system.

 

[NociHTTP]

I hope your not premature with everything, lol

 

[NociHTTP]

With the ability to pick up experienced, proven college players via the portal, you are correct … most high-schoolers are unpredictable at the next level, despite their high rankings, and are often not the best option in recruiting.

I would LOVE to see how freshman under CMP at UK progress versus how they did under Cal.

 

[TFCats11]

I'm way more worried about success in the transfer portal than I am recruiting 5 star 17 year old's now.

This! Teams simply don’t need them anymore. It wouldn’t hurt to have 1 or 2, but I’m not going to stress over it. Coach Pope will get his share, but I’m in favor of saving that NIL money for veteran players now. JMO

 

[SemperFiCat]

I'm way more worried about success in the transfer portal than I am recruiting 5 star 17 year old's now.

Yep. Put your money into a known commodity. Sure, you gamble a little with some freshmen, but the big investment sgould be in known value, and physical/mental maturity. I honestly don't care much about HS recruiting much at all anymore. Get guys that fit and will grow.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

If Jasper commits to UNC or Bama so soon and without going on an official visit to UK nor giving Pope time to prove his system and build a connection with him, well doesnt that just say we never had a chance and nothing Pope could have done? Jasper is a UNC fan,. dad isnt going to force his son to go to UK just because dad played football here.

Moreno is with ADIDAS........ why do you think Indiana is thought to be his leader? In 15 years how many top 40 players that were with adidas did Cal get? Adidas are going to do everything they can to get Moreno to go to an Adidas school.

Also Moreno didnt grow up a UK fan. now if those 2 were UK fans then yes it would mean Pope fumbled it but they both have situations that Pope can do everything possible and still not land them and its ok.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

This NIL era is going to be filled with disinformation being supplied by agents and others trying to drive up the price. I won't believe anything about Jasper Johnson going elsewhere until I actually see it. Anywhere but UK just doesn't compute. I guess we'll see.

 

[un4getables]

There are now strong rumblings that Kentucky may miss-out on both Jasper Johnson and Malachi Moreno, with Alabama and UNC now looking like leaders for Jasper and Moreno possibly leaning towards Indiana. What's everyone thoughts on possibly missing out on two, high-profile in-state kids to our rivals? It's very rare that the state of Kentucky produces two top-30 highschool prospects, and even more rare that neither may not be suiting up in Kentucky blue.

EDIT: Just seen the similar post about this topic, however, cannot read the OP's message to due having white font lol.

A lot of nothing sauce

 

[Cleatortoises]

There are strong rumblings? Where or what is rumbling?
What are your thoughts on POSSIBLY missing out on KY boys?
Guess I could possibly win the lottery.
Let's bow our necks. We will get what we need. As you know, you can't always get what you want.
GBB!

 

[North Carolina Blue Wildcat]

I don’t believe we are out of it with either.. I’ll wait for an announcement before analyzing it.

 

[bigbluedon]

That person you're referring to has been told by many here that his text is unreadable, but he's chosen to be difficult about it. It's his 15 minutes of fame. CMP hasn't coached a game yet for UK, and I'm going way out on a limb here by suggesting that maybe there's been enough folks in the player's circles here in Kentucky that have suggested that CMP was the wrong guy to be picked for UK's coach. And kid's today don't really seem to follow tradition or want to follow in the footsteps of others.

Are u serious? Wow.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Hard to get recruits when Pope is pretty unproven. That's why it's so important that we do well these first few years.

 

[Cleatortoises]

Is it hard to get recruits?
Pope just recruited a whole team in a few weeks. Award winning players in some cases (defensive).
We gonna be okay.

 

[true blue1]

I think we all have to be patient and see how everything plays out. Pope is not known by many of the high profile recruits. Now with him being at Kentucky it will open doors up for him to recruit.

 

[Fox2monk]

Man, a fantastic new era hasn't even started yet, and people are trying to wet blanket it over stuff that hasn't even happened yet. People, Pope put together a fine roster in about 24 hours. Let it play out. Enjoy being present.

One article and the world ends lol. I’ll at least wait until after they commit.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

There are strong rumblings? Where or what is rumbling?
What are your thoughts on POSSIBLY missing out on KY boys?
Guess I could possibly win the lottery.
Let's bow our necks. We will get what we need. As you know, you can't always get what you want.
GBB!

OP is reacting to this article without letting us know that upfront.

 

[Cleatortoises]

Pearl clutcher. Relax. Life is tough without worrying about uncontrollable.
Hang in there brother.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

There are strong rumblings? Where or what is rumbling?
What are your thoughts on POSSIBLY missing out on KY boys?
Guess I could possibly win the lottery.
Let's bow our necks. We will get what we need. As you know, you can't always get what you want.
GBB!

Probably Trilly looking for new subscribers, lol.

 

[CRZ4UK]

Freshman five stars want a guaranteed starting spot and unlimited playing time since they only plan on being there for one year. They'll get that promise at some schools but not at UK anymore. Totally works for me.

That was my thought. Just because an instate kid goes somewhere else, doesn’t mean it wasn’t
CMP that didn’t really want him. If their camps are demanding playing time and starting guarantees. We have already been down that road. I don’t want another coach that’s held hostage.

 

[Jamal Sunburn]

It would be pretty disheartening to lose out on one of these kids let alone both. Especially considering Pope is building the foundations of the program. We should be able to depend on the instate talent as layups. It has always been that way. If you're saying it's not a big deal, you're delusional. It's not even like we're competing against Louisville.

 

[uk78]

My initial reaction to any Kentucky kid who isn't seeing all that coach Pope is creating and what BBN is all about is a traitor. But, NIL has caused a new wrinkle. I still believe guys like Jasper would really be crazy to not take advantage of all that is occurring with the Kentucky program but there are now money deals that we may not even know about influencing things.

 

[52T]

I've read some of the staff thought there were better fits out there. I don't think we get either. I think we do better

 

[jrpross]

Johnson will be tough but I’ll believe we miss on Moreno when I see it

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

I hope your not premature with everything, lol

Down his leg

 

[Cleatortoises]

I've read some of the staff thought there were better fits out there. I don't think we get either. I think we do better

Enough of this fool.

 

[know1]

Is it a miss if we decide we had better options than them, though?