Memphis Fan Gary Parrish Keeps Duke in his CBS Top 25 Plus One and Keeps UK Out
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Duke at 24 and UK unranked?!?!?! No bias there! Parrish is a hack. Do not click on this link and give him hits.
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I like his podcast, they normally give a good overview of CBB. But this does seem to be a little far-fetched.
I'm pretty sure that is last weeks rankings. It says updated yesterday but I think that is just for records.
Look at the comments. Those are obviously dated. Talks about SMU running the table.
Parrish is still a buffoon.
Somewhat reasonable explanation:
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS
For the Kentucky fans asking why I do not have UK ranked, here’s the explanation: UK has three top-50 KenPom wins and four sub-50 losses. …
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS
… So, sure, I could rank UK. It’s a reasonable thing to do. But, FWIW, no team I have ranked has more sub-50 losses than top-50 wins.
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS
For the Kentucky fans asking why I do not have UK ranked, here’s the explanation: UK has three top-50 KenPom wins and four sub-50 losses. …
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS
… So, sure, I could rank UK. It’s a reasonable thing to do. But, FWIW, no team I have ranked has more sub-50 losses than top-50 wins.
Kentucky is still unranked on his ballot. His reasoning is Kentucky has 3 top 50 KenPom wins and 4 losses to teams outside the top 50 in KenPom
We are 22nd in the kenpom rankings that he holds so dear for his reasonings.
He doesn't agree with their rankings, but uses it to justify not ranking us
Lmao.
He doesn't agree with their rankings, but uses it to justify not ranking us
Lmao.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...va-is-now-ranked-eighth-in-the-top-25-and-one
Even after Duke lost three straight before grabbing a win last out.
UK detractor Goodman even shows sense.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 3h3 hours ago
Jeff Goodman Retweeted Gary Parrish
This is borderline insane, Parrish. There is no way Kentucky shouldn't be ranked. You have really done it this time.
Even after Duke lost three straight before grabbing a win last out.
UK detractor Goodman even shows sense.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 3h3 hours ago
Jeff Goodman Retweeted Gary Parrish
This is borderline insane, Parrish. There is no way Kentucky shouldn't be ranked. You have really done it this time.
His argument...see below.
Duke has 2 losses outside the top 50 and UK has 4. However, they both have 3 wins against the top 50 (UK's are better across the board) and UK beat Duke. He addressed this on his podcast, which I usually agree with. I disagree with his argument and as he broke it down, he sounded less and less sure of it.
Duke has 2 losses outside the top 50 and UK has 4. However, they both have 3 wins against the top 50 (UK's are better across the board) and UK beat Duke. He addressed this on his podcast, which I usually agree with. I disagree with his argument and as he broke it down, he sounded less and less sure of it.
Parish loves that you posted that here. That's what he wants. Outrage from UK fans.
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Does it matter? While I believe UK should be ranked, they have also had some horrible losses that should be evaluated within their overall body of work. With that said, they have played very well the last few games and if they are finally "finding themselves", then they will steadily move up in the rankings, which will result in a better seed in the tournament. As of right now, it means very little.
The only he can gain happiness is if Memphis becomes a relevant program and it won't anytime soon
Especially a CBS ranking, that is done by one person. When it comes to seeding time, the AP and Coaches polls are the only ones that will be taken into consideration, and those are not given too much weight.
He's neither. He's getting discussion around HIS top 25...which means nothing except his opinion.
He put Duke in who had lost 3 in a row until NC ST and who has lost to UK and yet left Kentucky out with a 15-4 record.
I'm aware. And like I said, on his podcast today he explained it. His argument was weak (and you could hear it in his voice as Matt and Sam were questioning it), but he made it by saying UK's losses are worse than Duke's. Period.
I've got no beef with you, my big blue Brother. Parrish is a big-time douche for trolling for hits.
Very true, he has done this before. It makes him look like an idiot, but I guess as long as he gets the hits he is happy.
It's a really bad loss, but at the same time it was a total fluke, not to mention the foul disparity. People aren't going to give us that benefit of the doubt, but it was obvious to anyone who watched that game.
I listen to his podcast, as well, just for more CBB talk. It was a poor argument, and he frequently says that AP voters make robotic decisions based on not paying attention to the games and just filling out their ballots based on what they see on paper (eg. a team loses, they automatically go down, even if it was against number 1 on the road).
But here, that criticism applies to him. Regardless of record in the top 50 (an arbitrary cut off), it's quite obvious if you watched the last two games that these guys are now a threat to beat anybody in the country (not saying they're the best, just that they can hang with anybody if they keep giving effort, and have the potential to be one of the best). If you think there are 25 better teams in the country right now, either you're not being objective, or you're a basketball idiot.
He's done his "poll attacks" column on voters for similar offenses - if two schools have the same record, one has a slightly more impressive resume, but the other is clearly better now and is trending up, he usually picks the latter. Not this time, I guess.
And no, it's not UK hate.
There are lots of things to give him crap for - he's a 50 year old man who dresses like he's an 18 year old boy, but with the facial aesthetics of a 35 year old lesbian - complete with the fauxhawk. He talks like a female surfer from the 80s. He is entirely convinced of his own genius, which does not exist.
But, he is a sharp guy who loves basketball and can tell a good story, and he doesn't harbor any animosity for any team. Some writers do (Goodman, Feinstein, Reed, Forde, Thamel, O'neil), but the majority don't.
Here's a good test. If you have thought at one time or another that most of the writers you encounter have displayed an anti-UK bias, you aren't being objective. You're being paranoid. Every time somebody says something dumb about the cats, it doesn't mean they stay up at night plotting evil ways to take UK down. Sometimes it's just ignorance or a slip up or even a difference of opinion.
But here, that criticism applies to him. Regardless of record in the top 50 (an arbitrary cut off), it's quite obvious if you watched the last two games that these guys are now a threat to beat anybody in the country (not saying they're the best, just that they can hang with anybody if they keep giving effort, and have the potential to be one of the best). If you think there are 25 better teams in the country right now, either you're not being objective, or you're a basketball idiot.
He's done his "poll attacks" column on voters for similar offenses - if two schools have the same record, one has a slightly more impressive resume, but the other is clearly better now and is trending up, he usually picks the latter. Not this time, I guess.
And no, it's not UK hate.
There are lots of things to give him crap for - he's a 50 year old man who dresses like he's an 18 year old boy, but with the facial aesthetics of a 35 year old lesbian - complete with the fauxhawk. He talks like a female surfer from the 80s. He is entirely convinced of his own genius, which does not exist.
But, he is a sharp guy who loves basketball and can tell a good story, and he doesn't harbor any animosity for any team. Some writers do (Goodman, Feinstein, Reed, Forde, Thamel, O'neil), but the majority don't.
Here's a good test. If you have thought at one time or another that most of the writers you encounter have displayed an anti-UK bias, you aren't being objective. You're being paranoid. Every time somebody says something dumb about the cats, it doesn't mean they stay up at night plotting evil ways to take UK down. Sometimes it's just ignorance or a slip up or even a difference of opinion.
I listen to Parrish almost every afternoon on the drive home from work. He is not a UK hater. If anything, he seems to be a Calipari fan. He has often had lots of praises for UK, especially last year. Yes, at one point in his career he was the beat writer for the Memphis Tigers, but he tends to call things as he sees them, without being too biased.
He may not have an anti-UK bias, but he surely knows that leaving UK out will draw extra attention to his poll.
Especially when UK is obviously in by any measure on the planet, and coming off back to back impressive wins.
