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Mayors of major US Cities are saying

This. Anyone that doesn’t believe that politics is a big driving force in all this are just blind. Blind, delusional or both. At least, I’m assuming that’s what you’re referring to - election and politics.
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BTW, this won't be the only pandemic in our lifetime. We gonna shut the world down for a year every decade or so for every pandemic that arises?

Good friggin lord, we do not have a pandemic of this nature "every decade." We've not seen a worldwide viral outbreak this globally widespread and contagious since 1918, over a century ago. So, yeah, this is (hopefully) a once in a lifetime type thing.

Pretending it's the same thing as other lesser outbreaks that have occurred in our lives is asinine.
 
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Well there's problem #1.. CNN lol. They're hoping the entire economy shuts down until November 4th.

I've been watching Cuomo very closely.. I don't see him pushing that route. You can tell he actually wants the economy to resume because he knows it's going to crucify the people.

everything ALWAYS revolves back to “Must protect Trump”

cult mentality. How about y’all go out, infect each other, kill each other, and the rest of us will clean up the mess you morons have made since this stupid bitch came alone 5 years ago and scared you shitless of Mexicans and black people.
 
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everything ALWAYS revolves back to “Must protect Trump”

cult mentality. How about y’all go out, infect each other, kill each other, and the rest of us will clean up the mess you morons have made since this stupid bitch came alone 5 years ago and scared you shitless of Mexicans and black people.

left wingers are such sniveling brats. Yeah we will go out and work and have fun and you'll cheat welfare as long as you can. What a productive citizen

we should seriously banish all liberals to Hawaii or a similar island and see how fast they sink the place and kill each other. that would be a better social experiment than a shutdown over so called wuhan flu
 
Haven't heard this but it's asinine if true. Too early to make that call. There won't be a vaccine until later in 2021 (and many people who get a flu shot/vaccine still get the flu, you know). We're really going to stop our lives for another 15+ months? I'm thinking a worldwide depression is just as serious if not more so than this virus if we follow through on this course. More and more experts from non-US countries are questioning the complete shutdown. 'Herd immunity' is the phrase I keep hearing and isolating everyone will not engender herd immunity. (FWIW, polio wasn't considered eradicated worldwide until 2017 and we've had a vaccine for almost 70 years now; plus, there are 20+ new cases of bubonic plague in the US each year - you CANNOT completely eradicate this or any virus with a vaccine.) The financial, mental and social cost of isolation is approaching the human cost in my mind. Not trying to be callous and I'm all for continuing isolation for most at-risk but, keep everyone inside, no restaurants, no sporting events, no concerts, etc. for another year plus? Nope.

BTW, this won't be the only pandemic in our lifetime. We gonna shut the world down for a year every decade or so for every pandemic that arises? It's insanity. The number of people who will starve, commit suicide, commit homicide, become clinically depressed, abuse drugs/alcohol, physical abuse, etc. will go off the charts if this country doesn't start opening up a little at time in the near future.

1. We are already working towards herd immunity. The social distancing is to slow the spread of the disease throughout the population, not to stop it from spreading. Had we not done the social distancing and shutdown, we would have reached herd immunity much faster at the cost of completely overwhelming our health care system (which still happened in the hot zones that popped up before the shutdown). This would increase deaths from COVID-19, as well as every other source of emergency (car crashes, gunshots, workplace accidents... etc wouldn't get cared for in an overwhelmed heathcare system. The amount of deaths would be staggering. We will not safely reach herd immunity without a vaccine according to every expert I've read discuss this (I'm open to any sources you can provide that suggest otherwise).

2. You mention the bubonic plague, as if that is a highly contagious pathogen that passes from person to person. The bubonic plague is rarely spread from person to person. Social distancing or shutting down portions of the economy wouldn't stop the bubonic plague. You are comparing apples to cucumbers.

3. We haven't had a pandemic on this level in 100 years, but you think we are going to have another one like this every decade for the foreseeable future? I mean it is possible I suppose, but I'd love to know what you are basing this on. We have had diseases that have a higher mortality rate by far, but they were no where near as contagious as COVID-19 (SARS 15% death rate). We've had diseases that spread as easy or easier than COVID-19 but they were not as deadly (H1N1 infected 24% of the world, but only killed .02% of those infected.) The fact that COVID-19 can lie dormant for so long before symptoms present, the fact that it takes long term care for those who present severe symptoms and the fact that it is so contagious make this a rare pandemic. When was the last time American hospitals were running out of space to store dead bodies during a pandemic? The answer to that question should let you know this isn't a once in every ten years type of event.
 
everything ALWAYS revolves back to “Must protect Trump”

cult mentality. How about y’all go out, infect each other, kill each other, and the rest of us will clean up the mess you morons have made since this stupid bitch came alone 5 years ago and scared you shitless of Mexicans and black people.
I am more scared of a redneck like you.
 
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everything ALWAYS revolves back to “Must protect Trump”

cult mentality. How about y’all go out, infect each other, kill each other, and the rest of us will clean up the mess you morons have made since this stupid bitch came alone 5 years ago and scared you shitless of Mexicans and black people.

And likewise to the people who want to shutdown the economy because Orange Man Bad.. Hey, at least we stick by our convictions. I want the economy back no matter who is president. So if Trump loses, then we will still be fine.. because Libs will then change their tune and businesses will reopen the day after the last vote is counted.

We'll be back by December, and that would be worst case scenario.

And LOL at the last part. God, Trump causes you guys to derail so easily.
 
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Good friggin lord, we do not have pandemic of this nature "every decade." I don't believe we've seen a global viral outbreak this widespread and contagious since 1918, over a friggin century ago. So, yeah, this is (hopefully) a once in a lifetime type thing.

Pretending it's the same thing as other lesser outbreaks that have occurred in our lives is asinine.

well it has not hospitalized or killed as many as a bad flu season and even the inflated projections don't seem to think it will so yeah it's not the same thing. It was a gross overreaction to put people out of business. Sabotage plain and simple. Fear mongering. Hysteria and panic. Made for media event

the death numbers are so far short of what the left was hoping for that they've started counting almost anything as a covid death in New York and other cities it's ****ing comical. Because death equals $$$$$


and why did this need a new thread couldn't this have gone in the fall college sports? We needed another doomsayer thread ?

The media loves death and the economy shutdown and in the toilet they can barely hide how happy they were until they didn't get enough death like the abortion numbers every day that they celebrate--they're sick sick people
 
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As for even the most cautious of mayors.. they are mainly talking about "gatherings". They don't want mass amounts of people in one area. And I agree with that. I really don't think we should allow mass gathering at all this year.

..but, we can still have sports. NBA is working on a closed camp to finish the season and it will be televised. Concerts will be live streamed. That's more than good enough.
 
well it has not hospitalized or killed as many as a bad flu season and even the inflated projections don't seem to think it will so yeah it's not the same thing. It was a gross overreaction to put people out of business. Sabotage plain and simple. Fear mongering. Hysteria and panic. Made for media event

the death numbers are so far short of what the left was hoping for that they've started counting almost anything as a covid death in New York and other cities it's ****ing comical. Because death equals $$$$$

and why did this need a new thread couldn't this have gone in the fall college sports? We needed another doomsayer thread ?

You sound just like the poster named AirRaidFreshman76, last seen on April 4th..... lol. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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the death numbers are so far short of what the left was hoping for that they've started counting almost anything as a covid death in New York and other cities it's ****ing comical. Because death equals $$$$$

and why did this need a new thread couldn't this have gone in the fall college sports? We needed another doomsayer thread ?
Good lord, can you imagine being so programmed to hate that you would think people want to lose their loved ones to stick it to the other side? Some of you need to step out of your echo chamber.
 
Protests like the ones we saw in Michigan and Kentucky today are only going to increase and get worse the longer this lasts. People will not tolerate their lives, jobs, etc... being shutdown indefinitely. They just won't, not in the US.
 
Good lord, can you imagine being so programmed to hate that you would think people want to lose their loved ones to stick it to the other side? Some of you need to step out of your echo chamber.

If you don't think the liberals aren't enjoying aspects of this you are blind. They are only concerned with fear mongering, fact checking Trump and hiding any positive news that comes out.
 
Good lord, can you imagine being so programmed to hate that you would think people want to lose their loved ones to stick it to the other side? Some of you need to step out of your echo chamber.

I'm only going by what I've heard them say. It's them that are programmed to hate that's what progressivism is. Class envy. Identity politics. White against black, gay against straight, man against woman etc. every day they gloat about the deaths and celebrate the economy shutdown

the left is not compatible with a free nation ie a constitutional republic which they've shown in spades during this pandemic

I'd like to add that 0.008 percent of the population has died of bat flu assuming a population of 350 million. We'd need two million official cases for it to be one half a percent right now we have a little under 650K
 
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If you don't think the liberals aren't enjoying aspects of this you are blind. They are only concerned with fear mongering, fact checking Trump and hiding any positive news that comes out.
People can think Trump screwed up and not be happy about it at the same time. I've seen literally no one say they were happy about people dying. what you call fear mongering, many call listening to medical experts.
I'm only going by what I've heard them say. It's them that are programmed to hate that's what progressivism is. Class envy. Identity politics. White against black, gay against straight, man against woman etc

the left is not compatible with a free nation ie a constitutional republic which they've shown in spades during this pandemic
[eyeroll] I know tons of liberals and conservatives and no one is happy about people dying. You cant just make up other people's feelings in your head and state them as fact. You are a prime example of what happens in an echo chamber.
 
People can think Trump screwed up and not be happy about it at the same time. I've seen literally no one say they were happy about people dying. what you call fear mongering, many call listening to medical experts.

[eyeroll] I know tons of liberals and conservatives and no one is happy about people dying. You cant just make up other people's feelings in your head and state them as fact. You are a prime example of what happens in an echo chamber.

That's not really an echo chamber. You don't know if what he's saying is true or not, made up or fake. It's anecdotal. Unfortunately, there are people on both sides that want to see harm done, just so their party can win. I see some seriously dumb conservatives on facebook, and seriously dumb liberals. I tend to think liberals are a bit more hypocritical and fraudulent in nature, but that's just me.
 
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I was just countering your blanket view of Republicans. One thing I do know for sure is that all Democrats are hypocrites, lol.
I havent made a single blanket statement about Republicans, other than to say they aren't happy about people dying. are you drunk?
 
You leave your house every day of your life there's a risk of 500 things happening to you from illness to car crash to a mass shooting. If you decide it's not worth the risk you're welcome to stay at home

You can't spread car crashes to others merely by breathing near them. If you don't understand why this thing is different than those things then I feel sorry for you.
 
That's not really an echo chamber. You don't know if what he's saying is true or not, made up or fake. It's anecdotal. Unfortunately, there are people on both sides that want to see harm done, just so their party can win. I see some seriously dumb conservatives on facebook, and seriously dumb liberals. I tend to think liberals are a bit more hypocritical and fraudulent in nature, but that's just me.
He is generalizing millions of people based on some made up thoughts that they all supposedly share. That line of thinking 100% comes from an echo chamber.
 
He is generalizing millions of people based on some made up thoughts that they all supposedly share. That line of thinking 100% comes from an echo chamber.

I certainly don't agree that it's all liberals or even a vast majority. I would agree, he's generalizing. You can't make blanket statements like that.

But at the same, time, you don;t seem to have a problem calling out the Liberal above who made equally blanketing statements, and even tried to throw some racism and virtue-signaling in there.

Everyone loves calling out the other team, never their own.
 
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I certainly don't agree that it's all liberals or even a vast majority. I would agree, he's generalizing. You can't make blanket statements like that.

But at the same, time, you don;t seem to have a problem calling out the Liberal above who made equally blanketing statements, and even tried to throw some racism and virtue-signaling in there.

Everyone loves calling out the other team, never their own.
Quote the post you are referring to. I'm not reading every post in this abomination.

Edit: I also dont have a team, which is why I havent generalized anyone in this thread. I am a registered Republican, but independent in practice. I've literally never voted straight party ticket in my life.
 
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Again, it almost doesn't matter.. even liberal mayors are talking about going back to work, because money still talks, even if your political views like to pretend it doesn't.

It's going to happen, and we will be that much better prepared for it. I would not worry about fall sports for at least a few months.

I don't think anybody (at least anybody with half a brain, or who has paid half attention to things) thinks we'll be locked down like this for months on end into next year. But I also don't expect mass gatherings (sports with spectators, concerts, festivals and parades, etc.) until next year. I'd wager there will be strong urging for anyone who can work from home to do so, masks to be worn in public, more testing and tracking. But now it not the time to open up. We're AT the peak. We need to get a little on the downslope and open with a solid plan for exactly what we're doing and how we're managing cases.
 
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I don't think anybody (at least anybody with half a brain, or who has paid half attention to things) thinks we'll be locked down like this for months on end into next year. But I also don't expect mass gatherings (sports with spectators, concerts, festivals and parades, etc.) until next year. I'd wager there will be strong urging for anyone who can work from home to do so, masks to be worn in public, more testing and tracking. But now it not the time to open up. We're AT the peak. We need to get a little on the downslope and open with a solid plan for exactly what we're doing and how we're managing cases.
Sports will be played THIS year, sorry buddy
 
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