that is because he has shown that he is not able to coach.
his teams lack fundamentals, plays and just plain basketball knowledge
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his teams lack fundamentals, plays and just plain basketball knowledge
Hopefully all the boosters are saving their money for the buyout
I hate to say it, but that's where I'm at. Why pay these whiny ass kids a penny as long as Cal is coach?
I don't think he left. But if he's in charge of the NIL program, he should.
Like that’s going to happen.🤪🤪🤪
Obviously. Just making a funny.
Who does Cal get along with anymore?
Not the fans, not the traditional media, not the alternative/KSR type media, not the boosters, not the refs, not other coaches as far as I can tell, not the AD, not the school administration, not the players, not the recruits, not Nike/Phil, who is left?
Not the fans, not the traditional media, not the alternative/KSR type media, not the boosters, not the refs, not other coaches as far as I can tell, not the AD, not the school administration, not the players, not the recruits, not Nike/Phil, who is left?
The Hallmark channels? Cause like you say, I can't think of anyone else.
So if this is true boosters are why we could not get the roster in place…..how did we get Edwards’s Wagner brashaw and Shep?
You aren't wrong but he's not left yet. He's not going to be around but as of yesterday he's still around the program. Others who know more would be able to share when he's leaving but as of now, still on campus and was part of welcoming Reed Sheppard yesterday.
If I am a business owner in Lexington, or central KY for that matter, what is the appeal of signing a current player to be my spokesman? I can maybe see having Reed Shepherd endorse my business if I can get his dad as part of the deal. But, none of the freshmen have accomplished anything. And Calipari's track record certainly isn't worth hitching my wagon to as of late.
I don't know anyone who is just chomping at the bit to give away their hard earned money. There would have to be some value attached to a NIL deal for me to pony up.
But, I agree with a few other posters...it's looking more and more like next season will be Calipari's last at UK. The big whiff on '24 recruits so far is very telling.
I don't know anyone who is just chomping at the bit to give away their hard earned money. There would have to be some value attached to a NIL deal for me to pony up.
But, I agree with a few other posters...it's looking more and more like next season will be Calipari's last at UK. The big whiff on '24 recruits so far is very telling.
Cal can still sell it to high school recruits as the path to get to the NBA, and they're nationally known to the point they'll get national NIL deals if they want them. They're the players that shoe companies already know and have likely talked to.
That doesn't work in the transfer portal though when the majority of guys aren't NBA prospects, and are just looking to capitalize on their final year or two of playing college to whatever the best scenario is for them.
Which is where we're lacking. Not being able to guarantee NIL money and give them a legitimate number, on top of Cal already promising starting jobs to 4 incoming freshmen means they're gonna see us as one of the last places they want to transfer.
And that’s about $100,000 per win. Not bad
I'm the wrong person to reply to this, because I don't see why any "celebrity" endorsement should work. I'm not buying X because a UK player, a NBA player, a famous actor or musician is paid to tell me to buy it. The exception MAYBE being if it is something they would specifically use to be good at what they do (like a golfer promoting a golf club/ball, or a guitar player saying this brand of guitar is the best), but even then I'm probably not without lots of research looking for unbiased reviews.
So you are saying you would support Sheperd over Wagner ??? I hope not. Business owner will maybe do good in the state of KY with Reed, but still not have more drawing power as Wagner. Wagner is box office , nationally known. He is the player people buy tickets to see. Love me some Reed Sheperd and hope he has a great career here, but if his dad didn't play here 25 years ago, I don't think you would be as biased to Sheperd compared to the other freshmen. Edwards is the #1 overall recruit, he is a bigger draw.
So boosters are choosing to not support the current coach and culture by withholding NIL? I could buy that. Seems that Stoops is having no problem finding his players. Could be because he is better with BBN than complacent Cal.
Said that it stinks that Charmin just wasn't getting the job done anymore.
That’s why after a couple years these problems may go away on their own. Kids “think” they can get a certain amount, but what they actually make is usually way different. Nobody expect them knows what they were promised or what they ended up making.
I feel like as more and more stories of kids not getting what they were promised leak then the market will eventually self correct. Guys will go where they are most likely to make more money then.
Also boasters won’t put up big money unless they see a return on it, maybe a few outliers like Arkansas who has multi billionaires who can burn a million bucks and not care. Sooner or later there needs to be some kinda framework because it’s way too crazy right now.
Well stated. It'll be a really interesting thing to watch Texas with Arch Manning. Watched their Spring game and he was not in the tier of being a #1 HS recruit or QB prospect. He looked pretty overwhelmed and the Murphy kid behind Ewers looked better too. A lot of $ was used/promised but nothing pisses off boosters more than seeing a crappy QB lose a game because he sucks. It's not different than the under the table days--but I can tell you this-the more $ a guy like Reeves asks for-those 2-16 games...that is going to have people wanting their $ back or sending some nasty "critiques" of the play that will then make the fans the "enemy" which is a joke as well. Want $--Take $--take the $hit that comes with that.
That's a good question. Seems like Craft is putting the money into football these days. I could be wrong, though
He didnt ask. But you felt the need to interject your worthless opinion anyway
I'm saying customers of businesses in KY and especially central KY are more likely to respond to Reed and Jeff Shepherd because of Jeff's history with UK and role in bringing UK its 7th championship. The natural inclination is to associate the son with the father. You can call it bias or whatever you want but, fact is fact.
your welcome. tell us your opinion thats worth so much
Thanks. I thought he had already left.
The clerk at Dunkin' Donuts.
Narcissists ALWAYS alienate people that they cannot control.
Paying for his wife’s political campaign. Would give it to her before I gave any to effing Cal.
Onyenso got 6 figures last yr. I don't believe they aren't doing well with NIL
After the Sharpe situation, if I was a big money donor I wouldn’t guarantee a dime to anyone with Cal around. Cal is perfectly happy to let them get the NIL and not play a game all year. He created that monster himself.
cal is actually considered a voice of reason with NIL . He’s not about guarantees , etc . UK isn’t a good place for people looking to coast and get NIL. Step up , be a stud and be a guy that companies like Beats , AT&T and others want in their advertising. We’re losing guys because it’s ‘risky ‘ having NIL tied to your performance and marketability
Even if Cal was into guarantees do y’all honestly think he would come out publicly say he is openly cheating and violating the rules? Which coach has said they guarantee NIL? I guarantee (no pun) no one can name a coach that has. All this comes from the same people who said Dillingham wouldn’t be eligible, Bradshaw was going to USC, Bradshaw has a foot injury, Barnhart wouldn’t let Cal hire an offensive coordinator or a GM.
Right on target. The big money people that were around at the end of Coach Rupp’s time, Joe B., Eddie, and Rick would put together the largest amount of NIL in the country IF the UK basketball coach first and foremost mission was winning championships for the University of Kentucky PERIOD.
It is very clear that all along from day -one despite what he said that his first priority was not winning championships. Only after he won it in 2012 did he stop pretending. Those of us that go back to Adolph Frederick Rupp never cared about players going to the NBA. We were glad if they did but BY GAWD they came to the University to win championships and get a degree. Coach Rupp helped all his former players after graduation get their non-basketball careers started including paying for dental school for a couple of players that I knew of. There were probably others. I know Joe B. did as well.
If Cal had come here and 100% been focused on winning championships like the others before them. If he truly embraced the program, university, the fan base, the big boosters, etc. Cal would have been lovingly embraced as he was in the beginning until now. He chose not to.
As a narcissist he is NOT WRONG.It is beyond his comprehension to be wrong.
As much as it breaks our hearts from Fulton to Ashland, from Covington to Williamsburg, Louisville to Franklin, Elkorn City to Morganfield, and all other points between the Mississippi River and Big Sandy River, the Virginia border, the Ohio River and the Tennessee border and beyond, we have 98% realized that until the current coach is gone we cannot think about starting the rebuild. It is not going to happen.
As much as the younger fan base quickly dismisses the need to bring a coach in with ties to the program there has NEVER been a time when that needs to happen since Joe B. followed Coach Rupp. Frank Vogel as you all know just signed a multi-year deal with the Suns. Would he break it to come home? Father Time has passed the best who was always given first right of refusal following Joe B. but the timing was never right. DC could have stepped in this year but his time is ticking as well.
When the day comes that the vacancy occurs, there is going to have to be a gathering of former players pre-Cal, and Boosters, and have rededication to the program. A rising from the ashes. Only then will OUR program come back and begin the climb back to where we all expect us to be.
Coach Hall used to always say UK basketball
was a way of life. Our love and our way of life has been disrupted severely. We can only hope OUR program can be restored.
Awesome post and I agree with everything you just said.
I went to UK with Joe. We are in the same fraternity. I have not talked to Joe in years. If he cares about UK the way when he was a student fromHazard, he ain’t happy. He gives support to Stoops cause Stoops want to win football games for UK.
I think its more Cal hasn't ask for anything and won't. Cal stopped having any interaction with anyone who's not associated with the team.Boostereant too feel apart of the team and Stoops has done that.
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