With Matt Jones in the title, you had to know it wouldn't be actual news.This thread was a major let down. I thought it would be actual news 😕
With Matt Jones in the title, you had to know it wouldn't be actual news.This thread was a major let down. I thought it would be actual news 😕
This not playing your best players thing might catch on.
Starting out down 8-1.
Great idea.
We did not lose in the first game in 2012.Why are you talking about other teams?? It most certainly has been a barometer on ncaa success. We lost in 12 and won the title, we lost in 96 and won the title. We won in 15 and lost our perfect season in FF. It has been significant.
All of our teams that have made runs in the NCAA tournament also played into the weekend of the SEC tournament. The extra rest and preparation after losing early on the SEC has never helped anything.I’m a guy that will come and say that. It matters to me and us fans but has little relevance in the overall picture. In fact a loss may be better for Cal and the players, extra rest, preparation and not as much injury risk. Now I didn’t say I like it but it’s a fact.
Like I said, never have we had a team lose this early in the SEC tournament and then made a run. All of our teams that have played deep into the NCAA tournament also played well and at least played to the championship game of the tournament.Possible I agree but you’re gonna end the SEC tourney on a loss anyway, right? History has shown we do better losing that championship game and not winning the tourney. Might as well lose now.
Winning the title not losing in the championship game is what I'm talking about
Nobody said we did. Said we lost in the SEC tourney, comprehension skills are a plus.We did not lose in the first game in 2012.
Apparently, according to Lunardi, the loss yesterday in a tournament that means nothing to some, has cost the Cats a seed line. They have gone from a projected 3 back to a 4.This is what happens when you have a coach who openly acknowledges that he really doesn’t care about the SEC tournament. The players also get the idea that it doesn’t matter if their coach sees it that way.
And the fact that the fans DO care? Well, that doesn’t matter either. Because this is now the Calipari program …it no longer belongs to the people of Kentucky. The only thing that matters now is what he thinks matters.
Cal is now First In First out Cal. add St. PETERS to that record. What a clown for a Coach.its also the first time in school history UK is 0-3 in the sec tournament in a 3 year span of course.
When you play a team and you don’t match up well, you compensate with what you have. It happens all the time. We won 14 games in 1990 with probably the worst collection of players in history. We did things, we changed up defenses, we had a coach that actually tried. Fast forward to January 2024, we let one guy light it up on us, lose by 2 in OT nothing shameful. 2 days ago we knew we would see this team again. What did we do differently from the January game? NOFT. Players, especially younger players need to be coached. We looked like we sat around the lodge all week letting everybody blow smoke up our ass telling us how easy it was going to be to win the tournament, even though he doesn’t care about it. Did we change up on defense, try to double team, make any adjustments to try to deny the ball? Seriously, this guy honestly just does roll the ball out there and lets them play. Our offense amounts to dribbling around the perimeter then at the five second mark we drive to the basket for a circus shot. Nobody is taught how to block out, rebound, play defense, communicate, nothing. Im so sick and tired of watching his incompetenceJust Cal or all the coaches that lost today?
Seems like when other teams lose it's this player or that player that's overrated but with UK it's Cal.
Parris won SEC COY but couldn't figure out Auburn as SC was routed twice.
Sometimes you just don't match up well.
I didn't think Cal did anything genius today or did anything heinous.
A different substitution here or there wasn't going to win the game.
I didn't think any UK player played an A game today.
I disagree with the cry that universities used players.For me it's as simple as the kids got way too much love after beating UT in Knoxville.
It's the same team but they came out flat.
Pretty much all of them even Rob and Reed.
We made a switch to zone last night and immediately gave up a wide open 3 and I mean wide open like someone was totally lost on where they to were supposed to be.
The OAD model is what gets you the roster you have.
One that fans and media alike have gushed over because of their high powered offense.
The generational poverty is a quote that's 15 years old.
Nothing wrong with the players being rewarded for their play and I will admit I grew up on and have lived most of my adult life with it being program first but that doesn't mean that's the way it SHOULD have been.
The 70's through the 90's was the "golden era" of CBB but the universities used the hell out of the players while the pot kept getting bigger and bigger for them.
Did you lose your wager?Nobody said we did. Said we lost in the SEC tourney, comprehension skills are a plus.
Correct I mean look at Jeff and Stacy Sheppard, didn't play in the NBA but are doing just fine.I disagree with the cry that universities used players.
For playing at UK players got:
A free education worth somewhere around $100k+ my dad would have gladly been happy with IF I was a 5 star player at any sport.
The best medical care when injured.
Free help with grades, well, unless you're at UNCheat!!
Free food.
Nationwide exposure at what was the Gold Standard of college basketball.
And money. IF we think players weren't getting paid in some way we're delusional.
When it happens with different players every year, whose fault is it?Just Cal or all the coaches that lost today?
Seems like when other teams lose it's this player or that player that's overrated but with UK it's Cal.
Parris won SEC COY but couldn't figure out Auburn as SC was routed twice.
Sometimes you just don't match up well.
I didn't think Cal did anything genius today or did anything heinous.
A different substitution here or there wasn't going to win the game.
I didn't think any UK player played an A game today.
LOL why do people keep spelling ''dominant'' as ''dominate''.It's never been a barometer for NCAA tourney success.
We won it in '16 then lost to IU in the second round.
Bama was dominate in last years SEC tourney then lost second round.
The Vandy team that knocked off our '12 championship team flamed out in the second.
I’ve never gotten either. So many people here don’t seem to understand the difference between those two words. And the weird part is I rarely ever see that mistake anywhere else, but constantly see it on this board.LOL why do people keep spelling ''dominant'' and ''dominate''.
I thought I was going crazy. Even had to look the words up to make sure I wasn't going crazy.I’ve never gotten either. So many people here don’t seem to understand the difference between those two words. And the weird part is I rarely ever see that mistake anywhere else, but constantly see it on this board.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the Kentucky public school system.
Jeff did play in the NBA although not much. I actually went to a playoff game between the Hawks and Pistons in Auburn Hills that Jeff played in.Correct I mean look at Jeff and Stacy Sheppard, didn't play in the NBA but are doing just fine.
You are correct my apologies, for some reason i thought he went straight overseas for a few yearsJeff did play in the NBA although not much. I actually went to a playoff game between the Hawks and Pistons in Auburn Hills that Jeff played in.
The main reason was the NCAA only allowed one team from each conference to play in the NCAA tournament. Most conferences wanted their best team, the regular season champion to represent them in the NCAA tournaments. As far as I can remember the ACC was the only major conference that had a tournament. The NCAA tournament expanded and started letting more than one tea from each conference and all the conferences went to a post season tournament for more moneyDoes anyone know why the SEC didn’t have a tournament between 1952-1979?
I thought I was going crazy. Even had to look the words up to make sure I wasn't going crazy.
Just imagine how many points St. Peter’s would have won by if we’d beat Vandy…..They’d rolled us bad. Anyone can play your hypothetical game.
When did UK athletics "belong to the people of Kentucky"? Never did. You aren't thinking clearly there.This is what happens when you have a coach who openly acknowledges that he really doesn’t care about the SEC tournament. The players also get the idea that it doesn’t matter if their coach sees it that way.
And the fact that the fans DO care? Well, that doesn’t matter either. Because this is now the Calipari program …it no longer belongs to the people of Kentucky. The only thing that matters now is what he thinks matters.
Well, they can beat excellent Tennessee and Auburn teams on their own home court. They can beat a likely No. 1 seed like North Carolina. We know this because they did it.
Nobody in the country has more raw talent and depth than we do. We can easily beat anyone when our heads are on straight and we’re focused, motivated and commit to playing defense. But, unfortunately, this team takes too many nights off where it doesn’t choose to do those things.
When did UK athletics "belong to the people of Kentucky"? Never did. You aren't thinking clearly there.
However, there was a time when UK's basketball coach understood the important cultural role of UK basketball in the state and tried to better the program.
When we lose now, the team is too young, or fans expect too much, or players didn't do what Cal said. There is always a lame, stale excuse.
I give due credit to Cal for being an elite recruiter. He still is. But Cal does less with more. Every year now, his teams massively underachieve their talent level. This was not always the case. But it has clearly been the case since 2015-16. Because he can't win big with superior talent, he has adopted new narratives such as-
The SEC Tournament doesn't matter
$billions in NBA contracts for former UK players
Young team (What about Reeves, Mitchell?)
But the object of the game is to win. We lost at home to Gonzaga, SCar, FL, and NC-Wilmington. We lost twice to TX A&M.
We know this team is capable of playing elite basketball because we saw them break down and blow out Auburn, AL, and TN. But we begin every game with a disadvantage because Cal refuses to start two of his best players. The usage of our personnel is irrational, and the refusal to make defensive adjustments has killed our season. If anyone still believes this is a FF team, they are delusional. This isn't the players' fault. It is on Cal. It is foolish to argue otherwise. Believe your lying eyes.
Because there wasn’t a point. Kentucky was killing it.Does anyone know why the SEC didn’t have a tournament between 1952-1979?
Mediocrity is my favorite, lol. Blah, blah, blah, we all want UK to win, your thoughts bring nothing to the table.He's paid a king's ransom to win games, period. He's also paid that ridiculous amount of money to maintain and grow the program's statute/success. Flaming out in embarrassing fashion in both the SEC and NCAA tournaments year after year is not acceptable. Excellence is about competing every game, not picking some games and saying: "I don't give a damn whether we win, lose, or even play well..."
If you want mediocre, got root for Louisville or Virginia or some such.
SEC tournament is a good barometer for:Like I said, never have we had a team lose this early in the SEC tournament and then made a run. All of our teams that have played deep into the NCAA tournament also played well and at least played to the championship game of the tournament.
Beyond pathetic....how will the Cal apologists spin this? Yeah I know Cal's bank account tripled and all of the draft picks are millionaires...at least some are happy.This is the first time since 1931 that UK has gone five years without making an SEC tourney final.
He also said UK ranks 13th out of 14 SEC programs in terms of overall SEC tournament wins since 2019.
The Cal cult has nothing left to debate from an oppositional perspective. Cal is a absolutely horrific head coach.
Cal also just dropped his 45th game in four years. Pitino only lost 50 total games at UK in 8 total years, and two of those seasons were spent on probation.
Awesome job, Cal! You're burning down the program while cashing those checks.