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Matt Jones regarding the NIL at UK.

He said they were LATE to the game dude. Can’t you read? Do I need to explain the word late for you? Now you are just being a dumbass.
No, as a matter of fact, he can't. He must have serious reading comprehension issues. Instead of recognizing his mistake, he doubles down and keeps digging his hole.
 
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Again. UK, the AD, didn’t help organize anything RE: Uk NIL way late into the process. Everyone had a jump on us. The coaching staff knew it. Anyone who wanted to give ended up frustrated and gave up on an early donation.
OK, welp late to the game explains it in great detail. UK didn’t support NIL at the time because they were late to the game. Dozens of UK athletes had NIL deals despite UK didn’t not supporting NIL because of all the late to the game they were doing. Meanwhile we signed the greatest class in UK history while being “late to the game”.
 
OK, welp late to the game explains it in great detail. UK didn’t support NIL at the time because they were late to the game. Dozens of UK athletes had NIL deals despite UK didn’t not supporting NIL because of all the late to the game they were doing. Meanwhile we signed the greatest class in UK history while being “late to the game”.
The University of Kentucky Athletics Department launched the “BBNIL exchange” 9-1-22. NIL launched 7-1-21.
 
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The University of Kentucky Athletics Department launched the “BBNIL exchange” 9-1-22. NIL launched 7-1-21.
Weird that we had multiple players with NIL deals and signed the best class in school history while not supporting NIL. Keep promoting a false narrative that hurts the program tho.

 
Back in 2021 when UK didn’t support NIL. We then went on to sign the best class in football history… without supporting NIL. Just signed one of, if not the greatest class in all of college basketball history… without supporting NIL.

 
Prove him wrong. He has nothing to prove to you ass wipe.
Prove him wrong? I have no idea how much money any of these kids made and neither does he. Again, y’all are desperate to promote a false narrative about UK that is negative an hurts the program. Prove him wrong, LOL at how big of a joke you are.
 
Dude is so desperate to prove his made up narrative that hurts UK that he claimed no UK football player made $50K. He used valuations from a website to prove this negative. Not how much money they’ve actually made, just some random website giving their opinion of what their worth is. The narrative comes before UK.

->The On3 NIL Valuation is the industry’s leading index that sets high school and college athlete’s projected annual value (PAV).

A proprietary algorithm, the On3 NIL Valuation establishes the overall NIL market and projected 12-month growth rate by measuring two categories, Brand Value Index and Roster Value Index.

The Brand Value Index measures the national licensing and sponsorship market. The Roster Value Index collects data from all school Collectives into a proprietary Roster Management software. Brand Value and Roster Value are combined to create the overall NIL market.
 
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Everyone else can figure it out except for UK fans who want to promote a narrative that UK doesn’t support NIL. Alabama player, no logo, no mention of Bama and it’s not a problem doing an NIL deal. Texas player, no logo no mention of Texas and it’s not a problem doing an NIL deal. Tennessee player, no logo, no mention of UT, not a problem doing an NIL deal. Louisville player, no logo, no mention of UL, doing a NIL deal not a problem. Brady James can’t use the logo and can’t figure out how to put Will Levis in a blue tshirt, promotes the narrative that UK makes NIL difficult. Only Kentucky fans scream to the world that our program doesn’t support NIL. Imagine negative recruiting against your own program.
I guess we found the JMI employee on the board.
 
I guess we found the JMI employee on the board.
They can never defend their lies. They just deflect by calling you a JMI employee or Mitch Barnhart’s wife. Show them 8 examples of guys doing NIL without the team logo or markings and they still choose to lie.
 
I was talking about you dipshit. You are are biggest asshole on this board. Btw, Brady and everyone else in this thread is right. You can defend Mitch and JMI all you want but you are still wrong. You refuse to acknowledge that the way JMI is handling the logos is presenting problems. Are they allowed to do so with their contract? I would say probably so but that doesn’t mean it’s the correct and smart way to do business. You are more interested in being right than you are simply acknowledging that JMI and Mitch have created unnecessary hurdles. JMI can be legally able to do what they are doing but wrong at the same time.

You mentioned earlier that we signed the best recruiting class in history. We did. We signed it not because of our NIL handling but in spite of it. A handful of boosters made sure we had the means necessary to sign that class with NIL support because we got such a late start. They can’t do it like that every year. Hopefully now that Mitch has loosened the reigns, things will be different.
More clueless KSR sheep who don’t know how licensing agreements work. Despite your lies, you have to pay to use the markings and logo of every major school in NCAA. Alabama, Tennessee, Louisville, name a school, they charged for use of their officially licensed gear.

LOL at you’re wrong. No sheep, you’re wrong and have been proven wrong multiple times. Then you come back with excuses like we had the best class and in school in spite of NIL. LOL, OK fraud.

These frauds see guys with NIL deals without logos and still don’t get it. I’m an asshole but this goof is making up lies to hurt UK for his boyfriend Matt Jones.
 
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They’re so pathetic they made up this lie complete with fake quotes. They’re a bunch of lowlife liars. Imagine being that pathetic all in an effort to hurt UK for Matt Jones.

 
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Someone in this thread is pathetic but it isn’t any of us. I’m dumber having read your nonsense. You are a waste of time and oxygen. Off to ignore you go.
That’s best for you because I will always call out your pathetic lies. Y’all completely made up fake quotes, how embarrassing.
 
That’s best for you because I will always call out your pathetic lies. Y’all completely made up fake quotes, how embarrassing.
That’s funny since I didn’t quote anything. Let us know when you start to care more about the actual NIL situation instead of just trying to be right. The terrible attitude you have says more about you than anyone else. Go back to the office tomorrow and get more instructions from Mitch. You are more transparent than a window and it’s easy to see you true goal which isn’t helping the athletic program succeed.
 
That’s funny since I didn’t quote anything. Let us know when you start to care more about the actual NIL situation instead of just trying to be right. The terrible attitude you have says more about you than anyone else. Go back to the office tomorrow and get more instructions from Mitch. You are more transparent than a window and it’s easy to see you true goal which isn’t helping the athletic program succeed.
Your group did, just straight up lied and made up fake quotes. That’s how pathetic y’all are. You’re a Matt Jones groupie before a UK fan.

Despite your lies, you pay for the use of team logos and markings at every school, that’s why you saw numerous Bama players doing NIL in plain shirts. Again, the truth doesn’t matter to you, your Matt Jones boy crush comes first.

UK puts out how successful players have been with NIL and even that makes y’all mad. Daddy Matt’s lies comes first. Y’all poo poo’d it and made up some lie about no UK player making $50K. Every step of the way y’all continuously lie.

 
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^^^^Nice video, I felt good after watching that.

After last night's showing by the basketball team I am not sure NIL is the BIG problem. The BIG problem is sitting in the head basketball coach's seat.

The first year Missouri coach made our Hall of Fame coach look like an intern on training wheels. Until we address the Calipari problem we can be the richest NIL program in college athletics and still be spinning our wheels. We can not blame it on NIL.

We better start focusing on the real issues. NIL is not one of them. The basketball coach is.
 
If UK's NIL operation had a $1 for every word Girthang posted in anger about NIL we could sign 25 5 stars, lol

Just kidding dude, change is painful, I've also tuned out & ignore college basketball over the last decade. You could put a gun to my head & demand i name 10 college bball players and I'm dead meat - UK players included.

Old subject that won't go away. Barnhart is an old fuddy duddy who can't adapt or accept the world changing in ways counter to his personal ethics. Been a great AD, but just isn't anymore for 2023. He is not letting Stoops prepare this program for 2024, 9 game SEC sched.

The problem ain't the denial of logos folks. All NILs have to be submitted and approved by Barnhart. Barnhart turns around and pressures the sponsors that they can't just pay players, they have to give JMI & UK a cut.

And then there are the threats given out to UK boosters & sponsors that Barnhart will cut them off & excommunicate them if they try to do NIL with incoming or prospective recruits.

UK is in a bad spot, but we aren't alone. USCjrs best RB along with several other important players have hit the portal due to dissatisfaction in NIL payments.
They have to give UK and JMI a cut. This is my favorite lie. Imagine just making up stuff to forward a negative agenda while not actually supp NIL in any way. Funny how quiet the frauds are now that all their BS has been exposed. All the doom and gloom and falling apart never happened.
 
This is it. JMI has no control over the players, but they control 100% of the rights to coaches and use of the UK logo. This prevents the players from wearing their jersey to sell photos for example. No one wants to buy a signed photo with a generic blue jersey. Also, other schools' coaches are participating in selling face to face interactions (dinner/party etc) in which the proceeds go to the collective, since the coaches are prohibited from contributing cash directly, but JMI will not release the coaches to do it. BTW, JMI is not restricting coaches at some other schools. Not sure if it contract language or just Mitch.
Which school allows the use of their logo without a licensing fee? That’s pretty much universal throughout college athletics and sports teams in general.
 
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So, you're saying YOU "took his money", because they OWN you!!!

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I’m still laughing at lies lies you told. Two best classes in UK football history but NIL is killing us because of JMI according ignorant goofs like you. You dummies don’t even know how NIL works, listening agreements, just ignorant sheep repeating Matt Jones talking points. You’re a complete joke.

Despite your pathetic lies this is the most talented team on paper in UK history.
 
Its not, anyone who says it is just being dramatic

Paying for players to come & paying players on the team is as old as CFB. Same schools that used Bagmen to pay for players are now putting that cash through "collectives" and are legal.

Hell fire allegedly WE were dirty in paying players, we can't throw any stones. Football players doing no show up work for UK hospital.
Reviewing the old posts, this one hit the jackpot.

We were once the most penalized U in the nation, stretching across five decades from the 50’s to the 90’s, including the first death penalty for the New York point-shaving scandal in the early 50’s.

I suspect U of L or Penn State, or others have passed us by since Mitch took over.
 
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The market value is something AT&T was willing to pay.
AT & T also paid the NCAA for the use of the “March Madness” name and logo, visible at the top/right of the ad near the end.

The NCAA has held the intellectual property rights to the name “March Madness” for many years. Hence, one insurance company uses “March Mayhem,” to cleverly escape paying the toll for the real MM!

Who were the UK players involved? I do not know UK’s basketball players on sight.

JMI made a pretty penny for this Ad, along with (?) two players and the NCAA.
 
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AT & T also paid the NCAA for the use of the “March Madness” name and logo, visible at the top/right of the ad near the end.

The NCAA has held the intellectual property rights to the name “March Madness” for many years. Hence, one insurance company uses “March Mayhem,” to cleverly escape paying the toll for the real MM!

Who were the UK players involved? I do not know UK’s basketball players on sight.

JMI made a pretty penny for this Ad, along with (?) two players and the NCAA.
Jacob Toppin is the actual player. The Wildcat Mascot is also in the commercial.
 
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There was no prospect of NIL when the JMI deal was agreed to. Although it seems to me that JMI cannot exactly prevent players from profiting off of NIL, it does not surprise me that they would try to do so.

Anyone know what it is our players aren’t allowed to do? I had been thinking things must be ok with our NIL if we were keeping our good players, closing in on a really good recruiting class, and about to land some good players through the portal.
As I understand it. JMI owns the rights to everything Kentucky. This includes the logo, apparel and licensing. Players cannot do endorsements while wearing or referencing anything UK. Most businesses would want Oscar wearing his jersey at signings or commercials. JMI won’t allow this. They want to be paid if he shows up in UK gear as they own the rights to clothing and logo. AT&T had to pay JMI because Toppin was wearing the logo. If they have to pay for that, the players cut is gonna be much less than it would be if only the player had to be payed. Most schools own there own rights. UK sold them to JMI. Dolly Parton never sold the rights to any of the songs she wrote. Elvis wanted to record several of her songs but wanted to buy the rights. She said No. He never recorded one. She made millions and millions by not selling. I will always love you is the most grossing song ever. Dolly gets a cut ever time that song is played. Point being. Don’t ever sell your life away. This is what UK did.
 
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As I understand it. JMI owns the rights to everything Kentucky. This includes the logo, apparel and licensing. Players cannot do endorsements while wearing or referencing anything UK. Most businesses would want Oscar wearing his jersey at signings or commercials. JMI won’t allow this. They want to be paid if he shows up in UK gear as they own the rights to clothing and logo. AT&T had to pay JMI because Toppin was wearing the logo. If they have to pay for that, the players cut is gonna be much less than it would be if only the player had to be payed. Most schools own there own rights. UK sold them to JMI. Dolly Parton never sold the rights to any of the songs she wrote. Elvis wanted to record several of her songs but wanted to buy the rights. She said No. He never recorded one. She made millions and millions by not selling. I will always love you is the most grossing song ever. Dolly gets a cut ever time that song is played. Point being. Don’t ever sell your life away. This is what UK did.
We gotta go over this again? Which schools don’t charge for use of their logos likeness and officially licensed gear? Name one, I bet you can’t. Prove me wrong and name just one single school and shut me up. Anybody, name one school that doesn’t charge licensing fees.
 
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Point being. Don’t ever sell your life away. This is what UK did.
Many Universities have deals similar to UK’s

And UK has been and will be paid handsomely for the sale.

Presumably, UK has saved some money by not having to have multiple staff members to monitor and enforce their rights.

You might claim the JMI deal is a net loss to the University, but Dolly Parton analogies won’t supply that proof.

I would have to see the accounting/bean count.

Dolly has and has long had a couple of outstanding assets that neither Elvis nor Barnhart had.
 
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We gotta go over this again? Which schools don’t charge for use of their logos likeness and officially licensed gear? Name one, I bet you can’t. Prove me wrong and name just one single school and shut me up. Anybody, name one school that doesn’t charge licensing fees.
I didn’t say they don’t charge. I said some schools still own their rights. If the number 1 recruit in the county wants to sign with them they can cut him a deal. JMI ain’t cutting no deals so said player can make more NIL. Schools might. One person on here said he wanted to do NIL and JMI wanted 150k for logo usage. I have no idea if that’s true but I did read that on here. To secure Cutter Boley we tell him he can use the logo for free if he signs here. We could do that if we still owned our own rights.
 
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Many Universities have deals similar to UK’s

And UK has been and will be paid handsomely for the sale.

Presumably, UK has saved some money by not having to have multiple staff members to monitor and enforce their rights.

You might claim the JMI deal is a net loss to the University, but Dolly Parton analogies won’t supply that proof.

I would have to see the accounting/bean count.

Dolly has and has long had a couple of outstanding assets that neither Elvis nor Barnhart had.
The University may be much better off with the sale to JMI. The question the OP asked was how does the deal negatively affect NIL.
 
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The University may be much better off with the sale to JMI. The question the OP asked was how does the deal negatively affect NIL.
I had read your post with the Dolly reference as suggesting it might have reduced income.

Either way, I think about all big names have these types of deals, now.
 
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