Malik Monk to Sign with Kentucky
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"One, just one. I just want to get one of these kind of recruits."
Frustrated Louisville fan that I work with just said this.
Not that Pitino could do anything with it though.
Frustrated Louisville fan that I work with just said this.
Not that Pitino could do anything with it though.
Their true colors are showing with this bit of news. Sad to see so much criticism for a 17-year-old young man over the fact that he chose to play college basketball at Kentucky rather than at Arkansas. Especially when you hear a lot of stories about people that age doing all the wrong things in life. At least he's playing basketball, staying out of trouble and making good for himself. More important things to be upset about, such as the stuff happening in Paris.
I couldn't wait to get home from work to start reading everything from last night to this. Huge get. Cal is killing it. Take it all in BBN. We are CBB!!!
Yep. It is easy to caught up in wanting a particular player to go to your school but it isn't any of your business. Even in a one and done situation there are many more factors than just 30-40 games you play that season. And it is 2015, the whole notion of you have to go play for your in state school is ridiculous. Can anyone rationally be upset with Jayson Tatum for going to play at Duke or St. Louis or Mizzou? No.
Marcus Monk reminds me of Derrick Rose's brother but in a good way
Not since we signed Vinny Zollo in the 8th grade
You sure can't. Kids nowadays want exposure, the chance to win and the path they can see gets them to the NBA. Cal and Kentucky and Krzyzewski and Duke are the ones offering these things at the highest levels at this moment. Kentucky can throw the names John Wall, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight, Karl-Anthony Towns and many more out there. The real question is why wouldn't someone want to play for Kentucky (or Duke)? Arkansas should get better on the court and show names they're trotting out to the NBA in far bigger numbers if they want to keep guys like Malik Monk in Arkansas.
But we can't get better on the court if we aren't signing these types of guys in the first place lol. Chicken and the egg argument.
I think the one and done rule will eventually turn college basketball into 5 elite teams and then everyone else
Wouldn't matter. Make it 2 and done and it will be like last year's UK team every year. Only way to prevent super elite teams, is for the NBA to do away with the rule altogether and let these guys go straight to the league. That is not happening. They want these kids to audition first so they know what they're getting.
No, their heads are firmly up their a$$es.Great great news. What a team we will have next year. Remember Cal saying 2016 would be the best team yet. Hey UL are you watching ?
You think John Vincent Calipari was going to just sit back and let Coach K and Duke one up him on the recruiting trail? After last season and the start of this class I think coach Cal wanted to smoke Duke's class and sit back and laugh at the national media guys and say I am still the greatest recruiter.
Underrated sub-plot is the quality nicknames of this class. We have a fox, a monk, a bam, and Gabriel's nickname is "slim reaper" which is nasty. Just need to figure out something for SKJ? lol
I think that's already happened, but I don't think it's 5 teams. I think it's mainly 2, and will be for at least the next few years.
College basketball at the very highest level is a training ground for the NBA. But it's actually a pretty small number of players who can legitimately aspire to play in the NBA after 1 year in college. It's the most natural thing in the world for those guys to attend the schools that: A: Offer the best, most guaranteed chance of winning big (and just a great overall college basketball experience), and B: Have proven to be a good training ground for NBA players. It's a small group of schools and a small group of players, with a completely out-sized impact.
The schools that aren't on this list (and right now, the list is mainly UK and Duke) are fighting an uphill battle. Even bluebloods like Kansas and UNC are starting to lag behind, as they have to hope that their secondary 5 star and 4 star recruits walk that fine line where they're very good college players who are a little too flawed to bolt early for the NBA. Get some of them to stick around, land a really elite recruit or 2, and then maybe you're at the UK or Duke level.
The good news for everyone else is that this won't last. Right now, it's based on coaches, and Krzyzewski and Cal won't be around forever. Once they're gone, it's a model that can be copied, if you have the right guy. I doubt anyone will ever be as good at it as Cal has been, since he was the one who created the model, but someone else will come along, and power in the college game will shift, or at least become more dispersed.
The other good news is that, as intimidating as it is, it's still no guarantee, especially when the college champ is decided by a 6 game single-elimination tournament.
I guarantee you Cal wants to be the first to see five freshmen starters win it all. He almost pulled it off in 2014. He could pull it off next year. Fox, Monk, Bam, and Gabriel are all elite. SKJ is right there as well. This group will feature five first round OAD guys.
Cal's never had that before. No one has.
Cal's never had that before. No one has.
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College basketball was pretty much that already since it began.
1. UK
2. Duke
3. UNC
4. Kansas
5. Indiana
6. UCLA
7. UConn
8. Louisville
Those 8 schools account for more than half of all NCAA titles. And if you wanted to stick to the number of five then you can probably remove the last three and still have a consistent power group who are mainstays throughout college basketball history.
Good points. What becomes scary is if Cal ends up staying another 10 years or so. K would probably be gone (for a few years) at that point. Kentucky would have stocked another truckload of top 100 ranked NBA guys into the league. This thing could presumably get even crazier once K leaves and widens that gap just a bit more between Kentucky and everyone.
Right now, Duke has essentially become the OAD default option for kids who consider themselves above the Calipari sell job and/or simply desire the Duke brand instead. I mean, can you imagine if K actually had charisma? Duke would be even more attractive to elite recruits. Now imagine Cal in 7 or 8 years, with another title or two under his resume, and with 30 more guys in the league. He'll likely get kids like K is getting based on his own legacy as a coach, but he'll also have even more NBA success stories to sell kids on. Taking those factors into consideration, Cal's twilight years as a head coach could be what K is currently experiencing, only on a grander level. That's scary to think about if you're an opposing coach, and absolutely exhilarating if you're a UK fan.
I like SKJ just fine - got to have a hyphenate and a kid with three initials, and he's ours.
Calm down now,maybe we can platoon ten players for the first twenty games. I would love Willis and Hawkins to play more in their last year.
I agree with everything you said. Also what isn't discussed a lot is that we have an inherent advantage with Duke's stringent academic requirements. I was reading a Duke board recently and discovered that 5 of the top 10 for 2017 they can't even recruit because they attend "prep" school's that have really really low academic quality instruction. A kid liked Eric Bledsoe for instance would not stand a prayer of attending Duke. I'm really concerned with the "sham" school Ayton is attending in Arizona right now Hillcrest because it's about to lose its accreditation by the Arizona department of education but Duke can't even offer him and I've heard they also can't offer the Vanderbilt kid in 2017 who is a strong UK lean right now.
Exactly. College football is mainly the same teams/coaches winning titles year in and year out.
Wouldnt it be funny as hell if Allen went to Houston and Bolden to Duke? I'd rather KU get Bolden but watching KU go goose egg on top 25 players and the meltdown that ensues would be so great to watch
I had a friend who attended Duke in the 90s. He had freshman English with one of the basketball players.
My friend said the player wrote at maybe a 3rd grade level. Things aren't always what they seem.
The above may all be true but Duke's requirements for profit sports are not the same as a standard student. The below article is from 2001.
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2001/03/the_blue_devils_arent_angels.html
Earlier this month, the San Jose Mercury News, examining data from 1994-97 (the last four-year period the NCAA used for documentation of grades and test scores), found that freshmen entering Duke on basketball scholarships during that period had an average SAT score of 968. The average SAT score for Duke's freshman class as a whole is generally in the high 1300s.
