Lunardi: Kentucky 3 Seed

[ganner918]

And also the first team with has many top 15 wins as we have. Some give and some take there. Those last two #2 seeds are there for the taking if you go on a tear

Michigan State is pretty solid on the 2 line I think, only 1 left to fight for. Auburn, Houston, and Duke are 1s with the last 1 going to one of Florida, Alabama, Tennessee. Most brackets out there have us still as a weak 3, I think even with wins over Alabama and Florida (and we all know Sunday doesn't matter) we'd need help with other teams losing early to get up to the 2 line.

 

[HenryMuto]

Palm has Kentucky still has a 4 seed.

Parrish has Kentucky at #18 overall (he says he does his rankings by resume) lol

 

[gharding07]

Decourcy from fox sports has us 3 seed, 11 overall.

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[The_Answer1313]

On Bracket Matrix right now A&M is just right above us.

Honestly, you could make a case for either when it's that close. You'd think our head 2 head would give us the bump over them but if both teams are on the 3 seed line........probably doesn't make too big of a deal anyways how it's ordered.

It's entirely possible we could be on that same line but below them but still end up with the more favorable bracket.

 

[The_Answer1313]

The A&M/UK comparison I think is my biggest beef with this entire process.

If you want UK to look good, you just say well we have a better Q1 record then they do.
If you want Texas A&M to look good, you combine Q1 and Q2 and all of a sudden they look more impressive.

But why do we have humans determining this when the NET was basically developed for this very purpose. The NET is already weighing these things. As such, UK probably should be seeded higher than them. Considering 1) our NET is higher and 2) we beat them....on the road by greater than double digits.

 

[bucsrule8872]

The A&M/UK comparison I think is my biggest beef with this entire process.

If you want UK to look good, you just say well we have a better Q1 record then they do.
If you want Texas A&M to look good, you combine Q1 and Q2 and all of a sudden they look more impressive.

But why do we have humans determining this when the NET was basically developed for this very purpose. The NET is already weighing these things. As such, UK probably should be seeded higher than them. Considering 1) our NET is higher and 2) we beat them....on the road by greater than double digits.

The problem with that is the NET is not really designed for that.

For instance, Gonzaga is #8 in the NET.

Does anyone think Gonzaga is a 2 seed?

 

[The_Answer1313]

The problem with that is the NET is not really designed for that.

For instance, Gonzaga is #8.

Does anyone think Gonzaga is a 2 seed?

They are probably closer to a 2 seed than the 8 seed they are probably getting.

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[gharding07]

The A&M/UK comparison I think is my biggest beef with this entire process.

If you want UK to look good, you just say well we have a better Q1 record then they do.
If you want Texas A&M to look good, you combine Q1 and Q2 and all of a sudden they look more impressive.

But why do we have humans determining this when the NET was basically developed for this very purpose. The NET is already weighing these things. As such, UK probably should be seeded higher than them. Considering 1) our NET is higher and 2) we beat them....on the road by greater than double digits.

We beat them at home, and they didn't have their best player.

 

[The_Answer1313]

We beat them at home, and they didn't have their best player.

Yep.

I think depending on what happens in the SEC tournament when it's all said and done, we end up higher on the seed list they them.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Regarding Gonzaga

If I look at teams with similar resumes and the seeds they got:
Bunch of 5s and 6s. So they are slightly under seeded if given an 8/9 where they are currently projected.

If we look at similar efficiency stats it's even more drastic:
The 10 teams with similar stats:

4 were 1 seeds
2 were 2 seeds
1 was a 3 seed
2 were 4 seeds
1 was a 5 seed.

 

[Princecal]

I’m pretty sure that would make us the first two seed with 10 losses in history.

UNC did it in 2018

 

[fatguy87]

The A&M/UK comparison I think is my biggest beef with this entire process.

If you want UK to look good, you just say well we have a better Q1 record then they do.
If you want Texas A&M to look good, you combine Q1 and Q2 and all of a sudden they look more impressive.

But why do we have humans determining this when the NET was basically developed for this very purpose. The NET is already weighing these things. As such, UK probably should be seeded higher than them. Considering 1) our NET is higher and 2) we beat them....on the road by greater than double digits.

A&M is ahead of UK due to record. One could talk about the merits of Q1 and Q2 wins or just Q1 together, but the primary deciding factor is that A&M has 1 less loss against a comparable schedule. If 50% prefer Q1 and 50% Q1+Q2, that washes out. A&M having 1 less loss then stands out.

If A&M loses in the first round of the SEC tournament and we win a game or two, we could jump them.

 

[TankedCat]

would not be thrilled to see Michigan St in our bracket

 

[Blue wood]

We beat them at home, and they didn't have their best player.

We have had people out all damn year, don't want to hear that shit

 

[gharding07]

We have had people out all damn year, don't want to hear that shit

Actually we were fully healthy that game.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Actually we were fully healthy that game.

Not 100%. KK was a part of the original 8 man rotation and of course was out for the a and m game.