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Losing Kennard, not only got us Murray, but likely kept him from going to Duke

Saying you grew up a UK fan and going to dUKe is heresy around here. I don't believe he was that big of a UK fan. If you say for argument's sake that all things are equal between UK and dUKe, and "you say" you were a UK fan growing up, then how do you not accept their offer to go there. It's not like Cal was struggling to have good teams or create NBA opportunities for his players.

Don't buy it, never have.
 
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Saying you grew up a UK fan and going to dUKe is heresy around here. I don't believe he was that big of a UK fan. If you say for argument's sake that all things are equal between UK and dUKe, and "you say" you were a UK fan growing up, then how do you not accept their offer to go there. It's not like Cal was struggling to have good teams or create NBA opportunities for his players.

Don't buy it, never have.

I think the being a UK fan thing was blown a little out of proportion. I think it was more of his family being die hard fans and him being a UK fan, but not die hard. It came down to this, he thought it was the right fit for him. I know someone as close to the situation as possible and when I talked to him on the phone months before the commitment, I had the feeling it was going to be Duke...it just seemed a better fit. As simple as that.
 
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At the end of the day, the only guy we missed on that I would have liked to have gotten was Zimmerman. I think Zimm was Skal-light and would have been a two year guy who would have been a really good player for us as a sophomore.

The other bigs we missed on would have just taken minutes from Lee and Wynyard, and I seriously think Murray fills a need for us more than Brown and is every bit as good as Newman. Plus Brown just seems kind of flaky.
 
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Lmao!!! Fire marshal Bill in the house!!!! Hahahaha let me show ya something lol

As far as the other posters go...... I guess we have most all our posters here have never played competitive ball before.

You guys will be shocked on how cut throat the game is, players will try and hurt you, coaches will try and chit on you even ur own coach if you show him up or something of that nature.
With ur team it's us against the world and were going Into battle and you take no prisoners. You inflict your will upon them, break them down into distraught broken conscripts, make them bow and grovel at your feet and take their women and use them at ur pleasure if you want.
That's how it is on the court, the higher up you go the bigger the stakes and more ruthless it becomes.
Why do you think Cal has to fight through negative recruiting for? Think other teams aren't coming at you a swinging?


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Saying you grew up a UK fan and going to dUKe is heresy around here. I don't believe he was that big of a UK fan. If you say for argument's sake that all things are equal between UK and dUKe, and "you say" you were a UK fan growing up, then how do you not accept their offer to go there. It's not like Cal was struggling to have good teams or create NBA opportunities for his players.

Don't buy it, never have.


All things are not equal. The academic reputations are not even close.

He felt Duke was the best fit for him. I do not see anyone upset that most of our recent players grew up liking other teams...?
 
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I'm enjoying a nice long weekend and talking to my fellow UK fans on my favorite UK message board about how much I'm allowed to hope Kennard is a bust. You can word it however you want so it feels better, but thats what we are doing.

That's PC at its core.

I hope he's a bust.
You're allowed to think whatever you want, just as other people are allowed to say that is extremely petty and just reflects negatively on you.
 
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You're allowed to think whatever you want, just as other people are allowed to say that is extremely petty and just reflects negatively on you.


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All things are not equal. The academic reputations are not even close.

He felt Duke was the best fit for him. I do not see anyone upset that most of our recent players grew up liking other teams...?
So you think academics were the deciding factor? Ha ha.....good one
 
So you think academics were the deciding factor? Ha ha.....good one


Well it certainly wasn't the hot babes...

No i was just making a point that Duke and UK are only equal on winning and Duke lacks draft picks but is coming on.

Duke has a different system that certain guys excel in, and perhaps some were correct in guessing that Cal would over recruit him...?

Who knows, that doesn't mean he was a closet Duke fan and was just spouting about liking UK as a kid growing up for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
 
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Well it certainly wasn't the hot babes...

No i was just making a point that Duke and UK are only equal on winning and Duke lacks draft picks but is coming on.

Duke has a different system that certain guys excel in, and perhaps some were correct in guessing that Cal would over recruit him...?

Who knows, that doesn't mean he was a closet Duke fan and was just spouting about liking UK as a kid growing up for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Certain guys? Not sure what you mean.
 
White shooters. Although, in my opinion I think Kennard is more athletic than Singler, Wojo, Sheyer, Paulus, Dunleavy, Reddick and the other ivory floppers.

I know, I know...

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You're allowed to think whatever you want, just as other people are allowed to say that is extremely petty and just reflects negatively on you.

Please Mr. Hoskins, please don't tell anyone I wished for a Duke basketball player to fail at basketball.

Boy, I sure would hate that on my tombstone. [laughing]
 
Wow! Talk about "Jilted Lover Syndrome"! Kennard chose Duke. Get over it. There is no bigger UK fan than me, and I was crushed by his decision because I've know him and his family for decades.However, he's a Dukie now. He will be successful there, and would be anywhere he would have gone. I don't believe the kid is a 4 year collegiate player, and I believe he will play in the NBA one day. I also believe he is the best shooter in the class of 2015. Hoping for his failure is a waste of time! He's a great kid and deserves success.

I also want to point out that the kid was a big UK fan growing up. I remember seeing him in Patrick Sparks jerseys when he was younger and wearing UK gear all the time. I could post a pic of him in a UK hat, but I won't. He simply picked Duke because he was swept off his feet by Coach K. It's that simple!
 
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1. Yes, we know, most great athletes, especially in basketball or black, not white.
2. Just because someone is white doesn't mean they can't play.
3. Just because a player is white doesn't mean "he looks like a Duke player".
4. Duke has had lot's of great black players.

Anything I can add to that?
 
1. Yes, we know, most great athletes, especially in basketball or black, not white.
2. Just because someone is white doesn't mean they can't play.
3. Just because a player is white doesn't mean "he looks like a Duke player".
4. Duke has had lot's of great black players.

Anything I can add to that?

Yes. Duke has got a great med school. I mean, since we're sticking close to reality, why not go whole hog?
 
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Negative comments like the ones directed at Kennard are just childish. What happened to wanting to be classy?

So what exactly am I allowed to do?

I'm a UK fan. Tell me mr. PC soldier, how much am I allowed to root against a Duke player?

20% shooter and 4 year player, 2nd round pic?
32% shooter and 3 year player, late 1st round pick?
35% shooter and 2 year player, mid 1st?
straight up lottery? year 1?

Do I have to hope he achieves all of his DREAMS, GOALS, AMBITIONS!! if that includes winning championships at Duke? DO I have to hope be turns out as good as our shooting guards?

In your world of fairness and fairy tales, how much can I hope he bricks?

If you're going to respond in generalities, don't.
 
"I hope Kennard is a bust. I wish him bricks and a crushing defeat in trying to reach his dreams in life."

"He's a Dukie. I hope he falls flat."

"I truly hope he's a bust."

"I simply hope Kennard is a bust."

"We load up, and if you aren't prepared, you can get your chit taken."

" I'm allowed to hope Kennard is a bust."

"it bothers a small segment of the UK fan base that another UK fan hopes Luke Kennard is a bust."

"please don't tell anyone I wished for a Duke basketball player to fail at basketball. "


I don't think you are butthurt at all about this kid...

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"I hope Kennard is a bust. I wish him bricks and a crushing defeat in trying to reach his dreams in life."

"He's a Dukie. I hope he falls flat."

"I truly hope he's a bust."

"I simply hope Kennard is a bust."

"We load up, and if you aren't prepared, you can get your chit taken."

" I'm allowed to hope Kennard is a bust."

"it bothers a small segment of the UK fan base that another UK fan hopes Luke Kennard is a bust."

"please don't tell anyone I wished for a Duke basketball player to fail at basketball. "


I don't think you are butthurt at all about this kid...

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hmm... I think anyone that reads that can see I'm saying the same thing over and over. I want a Duke player to miss shots and suck.

I've already apologized for offending you by discouraging a Duke player. I told you I'm sure you're right and Kennard will be fantastic and win big at Duke and then move on to take a top draft spot. We're cool so I'd rather you feel better about it.I get it. Everyone gets a trophy. We love all players. Fairness fairness fairness.

Now for everyone else, I hope the Duke snob bricks everything and misses every single tournament at Duke thus impacting his NBA career if it should indeed go that far.
 
Should be a fun game when we play Duke. We will probably see Murray and Kennard go head to head.
 
Please Mr. Hoskins, please don't tell anyone I wished for a Duke basketball player to fail at basketball.

Boy, I sure would hate that on my tombstone. [laughing]
You're making fun of me for not being a prick? There's PC and there's being a decent person.
 
You're making fun of me for not being a prick? There's PC and there's being a decent person.

I think you are a super nice guy. I don't want the kid to die, I want him to suck at basketball.

I can always tell the posters who are not athletes themselves.
 
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