Looks like Cheick Diallo is out of the rotation at Kansas.

[Nubb16]

The worst thing that ever happened to Diallo was being cleared. If he had been ruled ineligible he would have put in for the draft and been selected first round and possibly high lottery, simply on his hype from high school alone. Now he's riding pine and will likely spend his next 3 1/2 seasons in Kansas, luckily to be drafted at all.

 

[docholiday51]

or maybe........MAYBE he's just saying this and Diallo is really this crazy secret weapon. One, if we think he won't be playing, we won't be ready for? bwaaaaaaaahahahaha


*note the above post was intended as sarcasm for amusement only - it not a serious post.

Could be,you never know what is really going on under the rug,Self is crafty.

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

Ha, ok Skutt. I took my kids down to Mass St before the game last weekend. Sadly I must have missed out on the alcohol, drugs and prostitutes. It really is an awesome place. You should visit sometime.

Any rationale UK fans here to discuss with?

 

[Skutt]

Ha, ok Skutt. I took my kids down to Mass St before the game last weekend. Sadly I must have missed out on the alcohol, drugs and prostitutes. It really is an awesome place. You should visit sometime.

Any rationale UK fans here to discuss with?

You take your kids there? I've actually been there. I would never let my kids go there unless it's totally different on weekdays or something. Many, many Kansas players have been in trouble there but good ole LPD always makes sure to turn a blind eye.

I'll be sure to inform child services of this.

 

[Jkwo]

This post and the one that precedes it are a funny contrast. Your coach doesn't negatively recruit, but you have no problem slinging mud?

Kansas isn't dirty. Kentucky isn't dirty. They don't have to be. They get the top recruits regardless because of the exposure and success each school can bring to the table. Don't say stuff like that. It's something a Missouri fan would say.

I'll tell you for your own info - Lots of UK fans dislike Kansas on this board, because your fans have turned into total dickbags towards us since we got Cal. We were buddy-buddy as two rival fanbases can possibly be when UK was non-threatening under late Tubby and Gillispie, but once we got Cal, your board started foaming at the mouth over us as much as Louisville or Indiana do. So, now a significant chunk of UK fans are going to be hostile towards you. Definitely not all, but a good chunk of them.

And, nobody hates KU on this board more than Skutt.

Do with that info what you will.

 

[Skutt]

I actually hate that this new handle has KU square in the middle of it. I'm thinking of going back.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

KU really doesnt bother me. I still think of them as a kindred spirit to UK, fighting against the NCAA's favorite son's Duke and UNC.

I think KU's got a problem with us because we basically take their lunch money and eat the sweet hostess cup cake right in front of them. (recruits)


but yeah they are some damn dirty sons of beeches

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

nobody hates KU on this board more than Skutt. Do with that info what you will.

Noted, I'll just do us both a favor and won't engage him.

 

[Skutt]

Mass st. Is also really bad for the environment.

 

[Poetax]

I doubt that. Its human nature to use anything you have to get the prize.

You can doubt all you want but his assistants have mentioned it many times in the past, and so has he.

 

[Poetax]

I mean I hate to say it, but KU will be right there again next year. They'll be one of the best teams in the country. Even if they lose Selden, which I'm not sure they do. But they'd still have Mason, Graham, Green, Bragg, Diallo, Svi, Vick, and probably Jarrett Allen. They'll definitely be top 5, because no way does Mason, Graham, Bragg, or Diallo leave. And if Brennen Green would get 30 plus mins a game he'd put up big scoring numbers. And look for LeGerold Vick to step up next year and be a impact player.

If they are going to maintain their status as an elite program they better be right there again.

 

[Jkwo]

You can doubt all you want but his assistants have mentioned it many times in the past, and so has he.

As well, a bunch of players have mentioned it.

 

[Poetax]

For those that are just blindly commenting, here's some insight into why Self is reluctant to play Diallo:

http://cjonline.com/blog-post/jesse...y-reason-cheick-diallo-struggling-get-minutes

In summary, Diallo is very long and athletic, but is often lost and doesn't know where he's supposed to be on offense and defense, and I guarantee you it's not for lack of trying to drill it into their heads from Self. As you see in that video, Diallo struggles to run what should be some very basic sets on the offensive end. Something we run all the time, so he should be familiar with it.

It sucks as KU fans, but personally it's hard for me to argue that ANY coach should play a player who doesn't understand the offense at this stage of the season and doesn't grasp some basic basketball concepts. IF Diallo had patience to develop over a few seasons, I think he'd be a top 5 lottery pick. Unfortunately the people around him will likely dictate he leave after this season.

I have always said it sucks to be a Jayhawk fan. But seriously I don't think Diallo came to sit the bench.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

You mean the guy that would be a difference maker for Kansas if cleared? The guy that Self and every other ESPN person begged the NCAA to let play on national television?

GREAT point!! I recall the slurping over this

 

[_NewWorldOrder_]

Guys come on. You all want to act like nobody does anything like that. For example the hooker thing with Louisville. I would bet anything that that goes on at almost all Universities who have major sports teams. Its just the way things are. Cal may not say anything about KU's failures with bigs but we don't know that for sure. I mean I would definitely do that. I mean there's nothing wrong with it if he does. Its not immoral or an unwritten rule. Its just stating the facts. Cal is better at getting players to the NBA, developing them, and has a better track record of his guys succeeding in the NBA. Anthony Davis > Joel Embid, Julius Randle > Cliff Alexander, Demarcus Cousins > Thomas Robinson, Uh lets see. KAT > Cole Aldrich etc. Or look at the guards. John Wall > Josh Selby. The list goes on. Brandon Knight > Ben Mclemore.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Did NWO just give away that he's a UL fan? The only fans that think hookers go on everywhere are UL fans.

 

[Untouchables22]

For those that are just blindly commenting, here's some insight into why Self is reluctant to play Diallo:

http://cjonline.com/blog-post/jesse...y-reason-cheick-diallo-struggling-get-minutes

In summary, Diallo is very long and athletic, but is often lost and doesn't know where he's supposed to be on offense and defense, and I guarantee you it's not for lack of trying to drill it into their heads from Self. As you see in that video, Diallo struggles to run what should be some very basic sets on the offensive end. Something we run all the time, so he should be familiar with it.

It sucks as KU fans, but personally it's hard for me to argue that ANY coach should play a player who doesn't understand the offense at this stage of the season and doesn't grasp some basic basketball concepts. IF Diallo had patience to develop over a few seasons, I think he'd be a top 5 lottery pick. Unfortunately the people around him will likely dictate he leave after this season.

I completely agree with you about Diallo and there are legit reasons that you pointed out as to why he is struggling to get any minutes. But what is going on with Bragg and Mickelson is just crazy!! Perry Ellis needs a rim protector to play beside him and he also plays 35+ minutes a game which is why Bragg is struggling to get minutes because he is a PF and not a C and Ellis is getting all the PF minutes and you can't play them together unless you want to have zero interior defense. But why can't Mickelson play at all??? Did he kidnapp Mrs. Self??? Did he insult the "hairpiece"?? Mickelson is a better offensive player than Traylor or Lucas a better shot blocker then Lucas or Traylor and only marginally less effective at post defense then Lucas. And Bragg should be getting all of Traylor's minutes. It sucks to bench a senior but Bragg is better at literally every basketball skill then Traylor and Traylor is only 1 inch taller. So to recap Mickelson should be getting most of Lucas's minutes and Bragg should be getting all of Traylor's minutes and Diallo deserves to be nailed to the bench.

 

[Untouchables22]

Also I have to give props where props are due. And the fact that Kansas fans are calling the 4 guys that met with Self and told him which post guys they wanted to play "the four horsemen of the apocalypse" is legit! Seriously no sarcasm that is creative, hilarious and witty! I'd drink a beer with whomever created that reference!

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Wasn't Mickelson starting a few games ago? And now he's out of the rotation?

 

[JohnBlue_]

Lot of season left to be writing off players. He might limit their minutes as a tool to fire them up then in a week they might play more than ever. You have to let a coach, coach. They have their ways and it's not uncommon for fans to be clueless to the process.

If at the end of the year the same is true then I think you can judge it fairly.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Cutnets: diallo=Henson

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

Wasn't Mickelson starting a few games ago? And now he's out of the rotation?

Yes, it's sort of a tough spot for Self. Of the three senior big men not named Perry, Mickelson/Traylor/Lucas are all about he same from a talent perspective. They each have a certain aspect of their game that is slightly better than the other two, but in aggregate they'll give you about the same overall output as the others. Usually a guy distinguishes himself from the others and makes the decision obvious for the coach. That hasn't happened at all. Self has tried different combinations, including starting Mickelson, but it just doesn't matter. Eventually he has to get it down to a core rotation as you can't play 6 post players all the time. Mickelson didn't make the cut apparently.

I would also agree with the poster about Bragg. People talk about Diallo, but as I pointed out above, Diallo has a ways to develop. Bragg on the other hand should be averaging 25 mpg.

 

[Skutt]

Guys come on. You all want to act like nobody does anything like that. For example the hooker thing with Louisville. I would bet anything that that goes on at almost all Universities who have major sports teams. Its just the way things are. Cal may not say anything about KU's failures with bigs but we don't know that for sure. I mean I would definitely do that. I mean there's nothing wrong with it if he does. Its not immoral or an unwritten rule. Its just stating the facts. Cal is better at getting players to the NBA, developing them, and has a better track record of his guys succeeding in the NBA. Anthony Davis > Joel Embid, Julius Randle > Cliff Alexander, Demarcus Cousins > Thomas Robinson, Uh lets see. KAT > Cole Aldrich etc. Or look at the guards. John Wall > Josh Selby. The list goes on. Brandon Knight > Ben Mclemore.

Man, your takes are seriously declining. Why?

Earlier you say cal negatively recruits when we know (as much of a fact as possible) that it's not true. Recruits, recruits parents, cal himself, our assistants, our players, guys like mike Decourcey etc have all claimed or flat out said he doesn't do it. So, you're just flat f'in wrong.

Now, hookers are being banged by UK players and "all campuses".

These are Louisville and UNC talking points my man. And they aren't true. I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Kiimohawk]

Mass st. Is also really bad for the environment.

LMAO way to post a pic of the day after a final four win. I really hope no other UK fans believe what this says.

 

[loublue22]

he'd be playing a lot here, and we'd be a better team

shame

 

[Kiimohawk]

If Diallo got eligible at the same time at UK he wouldn't because his fundamentals are garbage, just like Cliff and just like Selby. The kid is playing awful. Now Bragg on the other hand, I'm livid about that one.

 

[Skutt]

LMAO way to post a pic of the day after a final four win. I really hope no other UK fans believe what this moron says.

Go back to your corrupt ass board and root for your corrupt ass team

Kansas. Never won a title without going on or coming off probation.

 

[Skutt]

If Diallo got eligible at the same time at UK he wouldn't because his fundamentals are garbage, just like Cliff and just like Selby. The kid is playing awful. Now Bragg on the other hand, I'm livid about that one.

Your recruiting is dead. No more OAD talent for your corrupt team to bury on the bench.

Get lost.

 

[sound defect]

This guy breaks down a couple of plays that explains why Diallo isn't playing.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

I knew after seeing Diallo in high school that he was severely overrated. His skill level is very low. He's almost identical to Marcus Lee going into his freshman year.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Bragg on the other hand, that kid is a great player. I really wanted him here. Self is a moron for not playing him more.

 

[Dirk2Bowie]

I bet Cal tells kids he's recruiting "Look what happened with Cliff Alexander, and now Diallo" If they'd been here they would have been/be 1st rounders. Bet he told Bolden something pretty similar.

I dont think Cal would say that...Plenty of others are so he can take the high road.

 

[Dirk2Bowie]

You can't let the inmates run the asylum....him meeting with Mason,Graham,Seldon, and Ellis about what they want and then implementing it. Is some of the worst coaching I've ever heard. You completely undermine your authority going forward by giving your players any say in the decision making process. That's coaching 101 stuff. Give a mouse a cookie....etc. Self is really losing it. Traylor and Lucas are garbage and Diallo has been bad but it's shameful what he is doing to Bragg who played really well in limited minutes . After Selby, Cliff Alexander, and now Diallo no top 10 player should EVER go play for self.

Cal openly admits to asking Tyler questions and for suggestions. Think he did it with Andrew too. Pulling every key player to poll their opinions seems kind of desperate to me though. I hope they are ecen more desperate come Sunday.

 

[GonzoCat90]

I feel like I missed something--who did skutt used to be?

 

[Skutt]

I feel like I missed something--who did skutt used to be?

I've got a few handles. I switch around. No big deal.

 

[RC_Texas]

@RC_Texas Your opinion?

The Jayhawks are in a mid-season slump, losing 3 straight road games. I have watch Diallo in games. He shows great promise. But he has been slow to pick up the offense. The simple stable plays. He misses his screens, he passes to wrong players and doesn't follow the flow of the play. The Kansas offense is dependent on- and off-ball screens. The offense doesn't run without them. When that happens, we rely on contested jump shots or a Mason drive. On defense he has been lost too. Kansas never plays zone and over-plays the guards and wings while doubling the post with the ball. It forces player switch defensive assignment and then switch back. You have to know your assignment on the fly. In the past, freshmen have had the toughest time adjusting to this even more than the offense. Having said that Diallo is getting better. When you look at the production of the bigs over the past few games you see that Diallo has some bright spots.

Diallo in his last 73 minutes of court time he has 1 turnover, 27 points, 21 rebounds, 3 steals, 6 blocks, 0 assists, 10 fouls (which isn't great, but not rotten). He is clearly improving. When you look at the other KU Bigs and their last 70+ minutes on the court.

Lucas: (76 minutes) - 9 points, 31 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal, 2 assists, 3 turnovers, 14 fouls
Traylor: (77 minutes) - 12 points, 23 rebounds, 5 blocks, 3 steals, 3 assists, 8 turnovers, 13 fouls
Bragg: (71 minutes) - 37 points, 20 rebounds, 1 block, 2 steals, 0 assists, 6 turnovers, 13 fouls
Mick: (77 minutes) - 23 points, 17 rebounds, 7 blocks, 5 steals, 6 assists, 2 turnovers, 14 fouls

I was somewhat confident a month ago about Saturday's game. If the game would have been in mid-December, the Jayhawks would in my opinion would have won by double digits. For Saturday If the Jayhawks that have played the last 5 games show up, I think Kentucky wins. If the real Jayhawks show up, crisp passes, strong defense, hit 40% from the 3pt line, attack the paint, the Jayhawks win. AFH is a tough place for the visiting team to win. I am not sure which team shows up. Now, I realize that 95% of the Rupp posters won't agree. But I was asked...

 

[GonzoCat90]

I've got a few handles. I switch around. No big deal.

That'd be a lot less cryptic if your avatar wasn't full of guns.

 

[Skutt]

That'd be a lot less cryptic if your avatar wasn't full of guns.

It's like cal says, it's not paranoia if they're really after ya....

 

[GonzoCat90]

Re: the thread:

It's a bit odd that Diallo doesn't know the plays or which direction to screen or pass in late January considering he apparently took enough courses to have his PhD this summer. That's all we heard about during the eligibility whine-fest, and now the kid doesn't know the plays? Sure thing.

Funny how there's always an excuse. Bragg must not know them either. Alexander couldn't learn them. It's taken Perry Ellis since Roosevelt was in office to get to the level he's at.

 

[Skutt]

Re: the thread:

It's a bit odd that Diallo doesn't know the plays or which direction to screen or pass in late January considering he apparently took enough courses to have his PhD this summer. That's all we heard about during the eligibility whine-fest, and now the kid doesn't know the plays? Sure thing.

Funny how there's always an excuse. Bragg must not know them either. Alexander couldn't learn them. It's taken Perry Ellis since Roosevelt was in office to get to the level he's at.

I think the decline of their recruiting is definitely due to it. At some point recruits are going to have to either risk Kansas, or play where they can work through mistakes. watching Skal working through his lumps becoming a better player should make all future OAD Recrjits take notice.

Self has killed himself on the recruiting trail IMO. Once coach K retires, it seems like cal might have this whole thing to himself for 5 or 6 years. How scary is that?