If you stream with Sling, you pay $5 extra to get all the ESPN networks. Helluva bargain IMO.
Longtime ESPN anchor Linda Cohn says politics to blame for network problems...
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If you stream with Sling, you pay $5 extra to get all the ESPN networks. Helluva bargain IMO.
by "political stance"...what exactly are people referring too? i watch a lot of espn...dont see much politic discussion going on. is it just that more black people are on air talents now?
So ESPN thought an answer to increase viewership was to include liberal politics??
So your guess is still that, after these two have said what they have said?
Most people that start with "my guess" (with other things pointing against their guess) seem to think they are factual correct, especially when they throw numbers and/or percentages around.
Maybe I'm wrong...I am wrong a lot
If this movement is marginally due to political views/leans (pro Left), it seems Sage Steele would've been the first to get the boot considering her public remarks/tweets/pics and strong conservative stance.
There are fewer and fewer true "traditional liberal lefties" anymore and his voting pattern would say he's absolutely alt left and a modern globalist. He's making no push to reform that party back to sanity. He's worse than a SJW.
ESPN has a group of problems and politics 100% have played a role. Myself and actually many people I know ditched their package and left espn out due to their backing and promotion of Colin kaepernick over our vets.
No one knows exactly why people are scraping ESPN. You'd have to show data pertaining to WHY they are switching providers or packages / cord cutting.
I don't think it's MAINLY due to politics. But it's not helping them at all. They don't care though, ideological brainwashing and promotion of alt left propoganda is their goal. MSNBC and CNN have had terrible ratings throughout the yearswhile Fox kicks their ass. It never stopped them or even slowed them down.
Listen my man I have no clue what you are arguing. She said she thinks that politics do have an influence, and I agreed, I was just chiming in (for no other reason than I'm bored) that my guess is it's probably like 10%, but the majority is because of the changing landscape of how we get our entertainment these days. I've heard other posters on here acting like its one of the main reasons and I don't agree with that at all. If you don't agree it's all good, I'm sure we both agree that Louisville, Duke, and UNC suck.
Everybody can spin it however they want. I don't watch because of the force Fed PC stuff. Everybody has their own reason.
ESPN can deny it if they want. But the network isn't even a shadow of its former self. If they didn't have the rights to the sports they do, it would have already gone under.
ESPN can deny it if they want. But the network isn't even a shadow of its former self. If they didn't have the rights to the sports they do, it would have already gone under.
Well, we definitely agree that Louisville has been sucked. 100% lockstep agreeemnt actually.
If you think a globalist low-grade progressive who can have conversations with conservatives without screaming is worse than an SJW, then you haven't had to be on a college campus lately.
In my generation, the average left-winger thinks that the first amendment is overrated and that it's justified to hurt people for disagreeing with you politically.
They aren't just globalist. They aren't just sympathetic to some socialist ideas. That's small potatoes, man.
They are full-blown fascists.
It's just not on the same scale as Matt's commentary.
Eh, I could counter the hell out of this JWKO, but I'm gonna leave it here out of respect for guys who don't want to keep hearing about politics.
Unusual for me I know. Trying to become a more respectful poster, it's hard.
As is usually the case, there are probably numerous factors. I'll throw out one more. I believe that forty or fifty years from now when historians look back they'll see that, in 2017, we are past the peak of the golden age of spectator sports in America. There's a younger generation that, as a whole, simply isn't into it as much and I believe that we're just tiring of it as a civilization.
Yes... it's all good.
I guess some of the ESPN apologists are getting to me...
I used to watch ESPN 24/7 in college.... everything has to change; but can't we leave sports alone
He's been retired for probably 20 years, but has a part time job. I'm guessing he's not watching much during the day. I do know he watches the Sportscenters, games, loves the 30 for 30's, Highly Questionable, Around the Horn & PTI. He and my MIL will also watch poker. They like to play and love watching that shit. ESPYs? I dunno. I don't know that I've ever watched an ESPY myself. SAS? I've seen clips of him here and there, but never watched an entire show. SC6? I probably haven't watched a half dozen 6 PM Sportscenters since they started making smartphones. Why would I? There are no highlights to speak of that I'd be interested in outside of a couple of random MLB afternoon games, and I'll catch them later on Baseball Tonight. If there's breaking sports news, I already know about it via my phone. I'm not interested in any preview of the evening games, as I already know what I'm planning to watch. Basically, if there's something I want to watch on an ESPN network, I watch it and and if not, I find something else. ESPN shows a lot of shit that I have zero interest in, such as golf, tennis, soccer, poker and other "filler" sports or programs. Some people do like to watch those things, and I don't have a problem with that.
THIS again? Equating a fledgling local outlet to ESPN is just stupid. Apples and oranges. Sell your agenda elsewhere.
That's all true, and you make important distinctions, IMO. But we live in such a divided world now that it's either "you're with me or against me", either on my team or the other team, and those distinctions are disregarded. If you are on the other team, you are on the other team.......
The word you are looking for is not "arrogant" it is "ignorant".
It's not about agree or disagree. It's about injecting politics into sports. If we wanted politics we'd watch CNN or Foxnews.
You don't agree with them, so you call them ignorant. You are the problem. You don't have to hate because of different opinions. You can disagree and not be a dick about it.
Yeah, but that's letting the fascists win. It's getting to the point where you don't have to stick up for your political beliefs, you have to stick up for democracy itself. And that starts with calling out those dipshits who are burning down the birthplace of the free speech movement and arming themselves with brass knuckles in order to stop conservatives from speaking. But you need people on the left to disavow that or it'll only get worse.
You're right that they've already started disregarding all sense subtlety and nuance, and as we saw it cost them dearly in the election. But there are much bigger things at stake if there isn't a bipartisan effort to bring back discussion and debate.
In a lot of European countries, people can be jailed for being too offensive, and it's already spreading to Canada as well. I know plenty of lefties who don't want that to happen, but they're scared of their extremists, so we need to be on the same page to push it all back.
Wow this is really bad! They should have fired the unbearable Steven A Smith and his BIG Mouth. I'm concerned about seeing every UK Basketball and Football game for the foreseeable future. ESPN supplies what I enjoy the most ! I would be totally lost. Sure hope it doesn't come to that. Linda Cohn has been around forever as has many others.
Same for me. I simply do not watch the politically oriented material. I am there to watch a game of some kind or here the commentary about games not to hear anyone left or right talk politics , sexual orientation, the environment or the future of the snail darter. I am concerned about UK's ability to score against a 3/2 trapping zone.
Their true colors ALWAYS come out. As long as you're agreeing with them they'll give you that smug, elitist smile but, if you dare disagree or God forbid, think Conservatively....Pow! You're a redneck, Nazi, homophobe, bigot, etc.
Same ole, same ole.
Conservative = redneck!? They are a sports channel which is a fairly tame venue if you focus on the athletic aspect. If you chose to blend politics and social issues then you need to be objective and unbiased or you will lose viewers. I am from Kentucky and consider myself an educated man who leans between moderate and conservative. But to meet your slanted views I'll give you a "kiss my redneck arse "shout out.
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Jenner getting an Espy courage award isn't about his athletic prowess.
Amen. That was a political statement clearly directed at Conservatives and it has no place in sports. What was once a prestigious and meaningful award was summarily rendered vapid and fraudulent in one night. Really no different than the Nobel Peace Prize.
Cord cutters are mainly under the age of 30. It can't explain anywhere close to 90% of it. Although it can help given most of ESPN's issued are due to them pandering to 20 years because they are "the key demographic" and alienating older more reliable viewers in the process. Given that knowing the key demographic of thiers aren't subscribing to their service anyway, they are streaming it. Most likely illegal streaming
They will have a major age discrimination lawsuit on their hands if they fire her.
Maybe I'll just start my shows back up...
Of course at BBN outside of our national writers and former players, we only hired website posters - you guys on this site would make for an interesting staff....
Sandy contacting JRow to have me banned again in 3, 2, 1....
No, it's primarily what you stated...but you're wrong if you don't think their insistence on telling people how to think and what to believe hasn't contributed. I've read many on here say they left because of their liberal BS. And I'm one of them... cost savings alone wasn't enough to get me to cut the cord... their arrogance and political BS was...
They already booted her from the prime time NBA show in favor of loudmouth liberal Michelle Beadle.
Politics on ESPN, I bet that is as annoying as politics involving a sports network on.your favoritems teams message board.
Their hero worshiping of Katlyn Jenner~ Courage Award? Woman of the Year. really?, support of Black Lives Matter anti cop agenda, comparing Kaepernick to Rosa parks, the constant race baiting of Smith, Jemele Hill, Wilbon...
