Liam Coen

[bigblueinsanity]

Coen def should get a lot of credit for what happened. I think Baker should get just as much. What do you think baker was doing why he was out? Think about what got him in the mess he was in. It wasn’t because of talent. He won the Heisman made a ton of money and let it go to his head. He was constantly doing stupid stuff. He straightened act up once he was out and started focusing on being a qb. He came in ready to play and learn

Idk what he was doing, but whatever it was got him unemployed and unemployed to the extent no one picked him up. At all.

Hell LA doesn't if they don't have severe injury issues.

So again, not sure the notion that coen was anything less than transformational for him.

 

[Fox2monk]

Idk what he was doing, but whatever it was got him unemployed and unemployed to the extent no one picked him up. At all.

Hell LA doesn't if they don't have severe injury issues.

So again, not sure the notion that coen was anything less than transformational for him.

He had a great year before Coen came though, he was better yes but he worked hard and had a great year himself.

 

[Fox2monk]

Coen doesn’t strike me at all as a bad guy, but he clearly doesn’t like to put roots down. There’s no reason for the reporter to bring up his kid either.

There is if he was lying about it, I think that’s why it was in the story. He went dark on the Bucs and that’s his excuse.

 

[Wildcats1st]

Yeah that’s what I read and I read that getting rid of him was what made Coen change his mind (that and the money).

I liked him in Tampa as I’m a fan of Baker Mayfield. Trevor Lawrence is a good guy and he hasn’t been able to catch a break being in that shit organization. Hopefully he can turn it around.

Quite the rollercoaster career this guy has had the last 10 years.

• UMass (2014–2015)
  Pass game coordinator & quarterbacks coach
• Maine (2016–2017)
  Offensive coordinator
• Los Angeles Rams (2018–2019)
  Assistant wide receivers coach
• Los Angeles Rams (2020)
  Assistant quarterbacks coach
• Kentucky (2021)
  Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
• Los Angeles Rams (2022)
  Offensive coordinator
• Kentucky (2023)
  Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2024)
  Offensive coordinator
• Jacksonville Jaguars Head Coach

Coen has done diddly squat to earn his way to a head coach spot

 

[bigblueinsanity]

He had a great year before Coen came though, he was better yes but he worked hard and had a great year himself.

Before coen came to the rams? I think you're forgetting the situation where the rams picked up as an out of work qb. Literally noone claimed him off waivers and he was unemployed and out of the nfl. Somehow coen made it click for him and he looked good the rest of that season.

THEN he had a good season after signing a deal with the bucs. Afterwards coen came and took him to another level.

If coen doesn't make things click for him during that emergency stint in la, baker literally might be out of the nfl right now.

 

[Doodah859]

Before coen came to the rams? I think you're forgetting the situation where the rams picked up as an out of work qb. Literally noone claimed him off waivers and he was unemployed and out of the nfl. Somehow coen made it click for him and he looked good the rest of that season.

THEN he had a good season after signing a deal with the bucs. Afterwards coen came and took him to another level.

If coen doesn't make things click for him during that emergency stint in la, baker literally might be out of the nfl right now.

Lol The Rams picked Baker off waivers like the next day after Carolina released him at his request

 

[Dncmaxwell]

Y’all need to respect his decision…

Coaches have a transfer portal too…especially good ones.

Does make you wonder his commitment though with all of the history…

 

[maysvilleky]

Now reports are saying he told the bucs he was at the dr with a sick child while he was actually with the jags.

Plus a condition of his new deal he just agreed to was no additional interview with the jags.

Wow

Yep sounds like he tried to be a snake . He wanted to keep his Buc’s deal if the Jags fell thru.

 

[Bereacat420]

Before coen came to the rams? I think you're forgetting the situation where the rams picked up as an out of work qb. Literally noone claimed him off waivers and he was unemployed and out of the nfl. Somehow coen made it click for him and he looked good the rest of that season.

THEN he had a good season after signing a deal with the bucs. Afterwards coen came and took him to another level.

If coen doesn't make things click for him during that emergency stint in la, baker literally might be out of the nfl right now.

Do you even research anything you say? As another poster had said he asked for his release from Carolina on Dec 5th and was picked up by the rams on the 7th. A whole 2 days, so he hadn’t even cleared waivers so he wasn’t ever unemployed. He was Carolina’s starter the 1st 5 weeks b4 an injury forced him to miss a game. When he came back they gave the job to walker and he asked for his release. Coen played part of the role. A lot of it was mayfield maturing. I know that doesn’t fit your narrative that Coen was his savior but it isn’t true

 

[sieken]

Yep sounds like he tried to be a snake . He wanted to keep his Buc’s deal if the Jags fell thru.

That, and the Jags asked him to be secretive about it so that they didn't run afoul of the Rooney Rule. I wonder how many people ever apply for a job while currently employed. Hell, I've worked with guys that were still employed elsewhere, they took vacation to test out the new job.

 

[gamalielkid]

Yep sounds like he tried to be a snake . He wanted to keep his Buc’s deal if the Jags fell thru.

Liked Coach Coen as a coach here. Not sure what to think about all of this stuff. However, becoming a head coach in the NFL was his dream job. Actually not a bad thing to go to Jacksonsville - the Jags have been a mess forever, getting a lot of new facilities and a chance to make a name for himself as a head coach - with little down side in reality. If he loses - this will definitely make his family wealthy for generations - if he wins- then what's the problem - right?

Since College football has now truly become minor league professional football - I might actually start watching pros again - after not watching them for over 20 years. I have to do something with my time since I will be making a lot fewer trips from Central Florida to Lexington during football season. Football looks pretty good on those huge TV screens now and the effort to enjoy is sure a lot less tiring on this old man - lol!

Go Big Blue!

 

[sieken]

Do you even research anything you say? As another poster had said he asked for his release from Carolina on Dec 5th and was picked up by the rams on the 7th. A whole 2 days, so he hadn’t even cleared waivers so he wasn’t ever unemployed. He was Carolina’s starter the 1st 5 weeks b4 an injury forced him to miss a game. When he came back they gave the job to walker and he asked for his release. Coen played part of the role. A lot of it was mayfield maturing. I know that doesn’t fit your narrative that Coen was his savior but it isn’t true

BM also landed in a pretty good spot both times after his release. The Rams had serviceable OLine, a running game, and good receivers, at least Kupp and Higbee. The same thing with the Bucs.

 

[catsfanbgky]

He AND his wife are pieces of shit. Using their sick kid and lying saying he was with the kid at the hospital, all while he was in Jacksonville taking the job he just turned down. Not to mention getting a GM fired to do so. A real work of art, agrees to a new deal with Bucs, doesn't sign it right away, turns his phone off, ignores his employers for two days, then lies about where he was by using a sick kid as part of his ploy. Then his wife jumps on social media and says "don't bring my kids into, there is a lot of misdirection being stated in media". Uh, no, you and your lying husband was the only ones misdirecting anyone,,, and flat out lying, and using your sick kid to cover it up. The Bucs was going to make you THE if not one of the highest paid assistants in the NFL and you burned them, just like you did the Rams, UK, and anyone else along the way to get what you wanted. Hope he fails miserably and gets black balled, not just from the NFL, but all of football. Morals, something he knows NOTHING about.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Do you even research anything you say? As another poster had said he asked for his release from Carolina on Dec 5th and was picked up by the rams on the 7th. A whole 2 days, so he hadn’t even cleared waivers so he wasn’t ever unemployed. He was Carolina’s starter the 1st 5 weeks b4 an injury forced him to miss a game. When he came back they gave the job to walker and he asked for his release. Coen played part of the role. A lot of it was mayfield maturing. I know that doesn’t fit your narrative that Coen was his savior but it isn’t true

He cleared waivers. Noone signed him. Had la not had an emergency need, no telling how long he has to wait or what his next shot looks like.

Just listen to Baker himself. He repeatedly gave coen effusive praise. Then he lobbied for the bucs to hire him.

Actually now i think about it, coen screws his qbs even more than his teams. Both levis and baker made big decisions based on coen promising them he wasnt leaving. Its bad enough straight lying to your boss but lying to your guys is way worse.

 

[Bereacat420]

He cleared waivers. Noone signed him. Had la not had an emergency need, no telling how long he has to wait or what his next shot looks like.

Just listen to Baker himself. He repeatedly gave coen effusive praise. Then he lobbied for the bucs to hire him.

Actually now i think about it, coen screws his qbs even more than his teams. Both levis and baker made big decisions based on coen promising them he wasnt leaving. It’s bad enough straight lying to your boss but lying to your guys is way worse.

Two days after his release he had a job. Two days. How do you know that was his only offer. I think Coen did an amazing job with him. I give Coen a ton of credit for that. He is a great coach but if Baker didn’t change his offield crap none of this would have happened. He matured and started putting in the work it took. Someone said he had to learn the playbook, but I read an article back then that said they went into the 1st game with a handful of plays and made it work. It has been a while but iirc he tore it up his 1st game

 

[Fox2monk]

Before coen came to the rams? I think you're forgetting the situation where the rams picked up as an out of work qb. Literally noone claimed him off waivers and he was unemployed and out of the nfl. Somehow coen made it click for him and he looked good the rest of that season.

THEN he had a good season after signing a deal with the bucs. Afterwards coen came and took him to another level.

If coen doesn't make things click for him during that emergency stint in la, baker literally might be out of the nfl right now.

Yeah maybe so but I still think a team would have taken a chance on him.

 

[Catluv]

I guess just like Stoops the head coach in TB must of been holding Liam back!! LOL

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Yeah maybe so but I still think a team would have taken a chance on him.

Definitely. It was just a very fortuitous situation where he and coen clicked. Turned out to be fortuitous for them both as undoubtedly Baker was crucial in bringing coen to tampa.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Two days after his release he had a job. Two days. How do you know that was his only offer. I think Coen did an amazing job with him. I give Coen a ton of credit for that. He is a great coach but if Baker didn’t change his offield crap none of this would have happened. He matured and started putting in the work it took. Someone said he had to learn the playbook, but I read an article back then that said they went into the 1st game with a handful of plays and made it work. It has been a while but iirc he tore it up his 1st game

You realize players only get released when they have no trade value. Releasing a player is an extreme move. Then he cleared waivers which further proves noone wanted him.

He would've eventually gotten another shot but I don't understand the need to downplay exactly how low his career was at that point.

 

[sieken]

You realize players only get released when they have no trade value. Releasing a player is an extreme move. Then he cleared waivers which further proves noone wanted him.

He would've eventually gotten another shot but I don't understand the need to downplay exactly how low his career was at that point.

Yes and No on why players are released. If a team has a viable option and more importantly, a cheaper viable option, they'll release the guy that got beat out. That doesn't apply to the stars of the league but it happens pretty often, especially when roster bonuses are getting ready to mature. Kirk cousins is more than likely getting ready to experience that, no one will want to take on his contract and he's due a significant bonus in April or May. There will be teams interested but they will likely wait until after he is released.

Also, Baker asked for that release. He probably felt slighted when he lost his job when out with injury.

 

[Fox2monk]

Definitely. It was just a very fortuitous situation where he and coen clicked. Turned out to be fortuitous for them both as undoubtedly Baker was crucial in bringing coen to tampa.

No doubt about that.

 

[TheKentuckyKid]

Wasn't this job so stressful it put him in the hospital?

 

[Bereacat420]

You realize players only get released when they have no trade value. Releasing a player is an extreme move. Then he cleared waivers which further proves noone wanted him.

He would've eventually gotten another shot but I don't understand the need to downplay exactly how low his career was at that point.

Im not. He def had hit the bottom. But it wasn’t all Coen that got him up. Lol

 

[HeismaNole]

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Can we please get rid of the Rooney Rule? The theatrics of it are insulting. So many guys have to know they’re just the token “candidate.” These guys are going to hire who they want. Making them do this is stupid and a waste of time.

As for Coen, not a good look to burn bridges. I know that was a tough spot and definitely a tough decision. Be the head coach for one of the worst organizations or be the highest paid OC for Baker Mayfield, Mike Evans, Godwin, and go to the playoffs.

 

[3632]

Can we please get rid of the Rooney Rule? The theatrics of it are insulting. So many guys have to know they’re just the token “candidate.” These guys are going to hire who they want. Making them do this is stupid and a waste of time.

As for Coen, not a good look to burn bridges. I know that was a tough spot and definitely a tough decision. Be the head coach for one of the worst organizations or be the highest paid OC for Baker Mayfield, Mike Evans, Godwin, and go to the playoffs.

I’m no bucs historian but have seen some fans cite that the organization did this with Leftwich a few years ago and got him to pass up leaving for HC and stay there for OC…then they fired him a couple of seasons later and he hasn’t coached in the nfl in any capacity since. So ugly process or not I get Coen taking a job that upped their pay to over 10m. HC opportunities are hard to come by.

 

[HeismaNole]

I’m no bucs historian but have seen some fans cite that the organization did this with Leftwich a few years ago and got him to pass up leaving for HC and stay there for OC…then they fired him a couple of seasons later and he hasn’t coached in the nfl in any capacity since. So ugly process or not I get Coen taking a job that upped their pay to over 10m. HC opportunities are hard to come by.

I did not know he had a head coaching offer. I remember he was a hot commodity and then one day, he wasn’t.

Good point.

 

[Wildcats1st]

I’m no bucs historian but have seen some fans cite that the organization did this with Leftwich a few years ago and got him to pass up leaving for HC and stay there for OC…then they fired him a couple of seasons later and he hasn’t coached in the nfl in any capacity since. So ugly process or not I get Coen taking a job that upped their pay to over 10m. HC opportunities are hard to come by.

Dude he’s been gunning for this job his entire career even if it paid half as much. That’s why he’s there and everywhere the last 20 years. Maybe he was born anointed to be the next belicheck we re gonna see if he is that or if he is the next excuse. Jax has pieces so fail and probably he will be hired by Barney to run the program when stoops leaves