Liam Coen
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Still think Coen's dislike for college recruiting lead him back to the NFL.
Idk if it was the recruiting or the lack of player accountability. Hard to hold people accountable when they can dangle the transfer portal over your head. Make somebody mad and boom gone
I think the Dawson argument is no longer relevant. When Dawson was here the program was still in a rough way. It was years away from what it would become. He had no talent to work with and the culture was still bad. If he had come along 5 years later then we may have had something. Same goes for Neal brown. We got them too soon. Bad timing
Not just recruiting. The college game in general.
He was really good here last year too. Wrs had historically high drop rate. We played at a snail pace. Nor did we give the ball to Davis nearly enough.
Even so, we were one of the most efficient teams in the nation mainly because he was so good at key play designs. Thats why he was over that with the rams from early.
Even so, we were one of the most efficient teams in the nation mainly because he was so good at key play designs. Thats why he was over that with the rams from early.
I don't think he was ever fully invested in college football ,he is NFL all the way.
Sure glad I have Baker Mayfield as my QB in fantasy 27.0 tonight he should be #2 after all the points get calculated up. Coen has sure done a number with that offense in Tampa! Stoops totally sucks when it comes to micromanaging $hit!
I really think one of the main obstacles to coen killing it here was the practice limitations. That offense has so many mind blowing little details that add up to make it lethal.
For example, on layered routes, the wrs are supposed to be directly in the same line of sight so the dbs cant tell which guy the throw is coming to making them hesitant to close.
Thats an insanely clever detail but takes hours and hours of practice. With wandale and josh, coen had two wrs with a pro mindset. Combined with levis' insane work ethic and they were probably working that stuff on their own.
You could also tell by the historic drop rate that key nor brown spent any time working on it. Beyond drops there were tons of times leary threw to the right spot but the pass looked off because the wrs weren't at the depth they were supposed to be. So the pass game suffered and leary took the heat for the failure of his wrs.
For example, on layered routes, the wrs are supposed to be directly in the same line of sight so the dbs cant tell which guy the throw is coming to making them hesitant to close.
Thats an insanely clever detail but takes hours and hours of practice. With wandale and josh, coen had two wrs with a pro mindset. Combined with levis' insane work ethic and they were probably working that stuff on their own.
You could also tell by the historic drop rate that key nor brown spent any time working on it. Beyond drops there were tons of times leary threw to the right spot but the pass looked off because the wrs weren't at the depth they were supposed to be. So the pass game suffered and leary took the heat for the failure of his wrs.
I know it's just one game, but didn't Tampa Bay go 3-and-out about five series in a row when the game was still in doubt? Coen is a good OC, no doubt. But he didn't really shine last year, imo. Better than this year obviously. But the 29 PPG is somewhat skewed by the ST and defensive TDs we had last year.
He looked great when Levis (2nd round NFL) was throwing to Wandale (3rd round NFL). So, maybe it's more the Jimmys and Joes than the great play design. Rams ain't doing too well with the McVay system and a future HOF QB (probably). Bucs didn't shine last night once Evans went down. Players can make any system look good.
He looked great when Levis (2nd round NFL) was throwing to Wandale (3rd round NFL). So, maybe it's more the Jimmys and Joes than the great play design. Rams ain't doing too well with the McVay system and a future HOF QB (probably). Bucs didn't shine last night once Evans went down. Players can make any system look good.
Just like in the NBA, if you can remain gainfully employed in the NFL, you'd have to be nuts to want to coach in college.
Didn't Liam come crawling back to us with his tail between his legs after flaming out with the defending super bowl champions. I guess Mark stoops is a more explosive, offensively innovative head coach than Sean McVey
Not really. He mostly got a pass with so the injuries that year, and was given universal praise in winning a game with Mayfield on super short notice. He could have easily gotten a QB coach job, but wanted to call plays. He was so highly thought of that even after his second stint at KY, he walked right into an OC job.
Noone forced him to come back. In fact he pushed out another nfl guy to come back here. So he doesn't get to complain about his decision to come back.
Coming here did nothing for his career. I think he’ll be a head coach in the NFL in not too long. Not sure if he’ll be good but think he’ll get a shot
Can hate him all day long (and it stunk the way he left last year). But Liam was a talent offensive mind. Two years with brand new qbs at UK…31 pts a game and 29 pts a game. And immediately after he left the scoring plummeted
If someone says Dawson was the best, then you can just stop listening to anything else they say.
