Agree, time to move on. Also as I understand it, Stone Saunders' family are good friends with Coen. Continued criticism with Liam is not going to help keep Stone committed to UK.Time to move on fellas. We have a new OC in town.
Agree, time to move on. Also as I understand it, Stone Saunders' family are good friends with Coen. Continued criticism with Liam is not going to help keep Stone committed to UK.Time to move on fellas. We have a new OC in town.
Bear Bryant, Gene Stallings, Kevin Sumlin, Jimbo Fisher. There is also a lot of money at A&M. I think this is an agree to disagree moment.
As to Coen, you can justify his voracious appetite to job hop and interview all you want. I don’t care. It’s just not comparable to Stoops. Not in any bit.
Yea, I get why some people can be upset with Coen, but some of you folks (not you Aike) are acting like 13-year old girls who just got dumped by your first BF.This is much ado about nothing.
The fact Bear Bryant, with access to Texas talent, won more hardware at Kentucky than A&M tells ya all you need to know.
So, by that definition the University of Kentucky is a top job because Paul Bear Bryant coached here in the 50's.
Gene Stallings, again, didn't do much there and used them as a steppingstone.
Two legendary coaches...barely managed mediocrity at A&M.
Kevin Sumlin. Tore it up at Houston but petered off in the SEC. Barely above .500 in conference. Outside of Johnny Football and Mike Evans, nothing to write home about. Okay, but not good enough to keep his job.
There's nothing to disagree about. They're not what everyone thinks they are. They were a middle tier B12 program fighting to lick the jock strap of OSU, KSU, and Tech. They're a middle tier SEC program sniffing Rebel and Razorback farts.
Yeah, they have a lot of money, and they blew 75 million of it on a coach to try and be something they're not.
As far a LC, I'll take NFL and Tampa over College Station and Lexington Kentucky. CMS tried to get what he and apparently a lot of other people think is a better "gig"...LC actually got a better gig.
He has listened to more than one suitor. It just happened to be that TAMU the first one that decided he was getting offered.And, after all of those words, the fact remains that Stoops listening to one suitor is nothing like Coen dating every job available.
He has listened to more than one suitor. It just happened to be that TAMU the first one that decided he was getting offered.
^ThisAgree, time to move on. Also as I understand it, Stone Saunders' family are good friends with Coen. Continued criticism with Liam is not going to help keep Stone committed to UK.
What a joke. Stop posting.It still amazes me that people get so mad at him when the only difference between he and stoops is that he was actually able to land a job. But watched it happen with Wolford when he left that he was a unified scapegoat for some faction of fans. Was the same thing....'he didn't rotate enough it's all his fault' when maybe the next string just wasn't good enough to win with so they didn't play them and we saw that the next year when they had to play. And again, if there was some legitimate issue with not enough minutes for the backups Stoops could come into any staff meeting any time he wants and say 'we need to get the backups minutes'. I guess it's just easy because they are gone so some people can unify and lay blame on someone not still here.
It was the QB, not the OC. Are you blind?I'm no Coen homer but he's literally had the ONLY season in Stoops 12 seasons with a top 50 offense.
That's absolutely a part of it....for every team in college or pro fb. Also, that qb came to uk because coen was here. And I'm not a coen defender. I just don't have it in me to deny reality and Stoops has been here 12 years. We know what his strengths are and his weaknesses have been pretty consistent as well. Levis had physical tools for sure but was relegated as a run qb at penn st with very little experience or snaps. He struggled with reads and interceptions the first half of that season but in the second half coen cut the field in half with play calls and the INT and him getting confused and holding the ball too long went down significantly.It was the QB, not the OC. Are you blind?
You can stay in middle school if you like and defy assessment based on logic and just keep being mad at whatever coach you want to based on whether they are on staff or not but it is silly for people to be like 'Wolford sucks he screwed everything up' when he leaves and now it's all good again cuz he's on staff. Now we can blame that year on Scang cuz he's gone and not part of the program and Wolford is back. We can blame everything on Coen last year and I'm not saying he doesn't deserve blame.What a joke. Stop posting.
You have shown me the errors in my ways. How foolish of me to think that he would not be gauging interest in higher profile jobs than TAMU but then be willing go to TAMU.Sure.
And in ‘54 they got down to Bear and Bryant.Attractive to who? They got nobody on their wish list. They were down to Stoops and Elko.
If so, look for an off-season trip to Beijing!!I wonder if Coen is as good at the game of ping pong as he is at ping-ponging through various job positions.
It was the QB, not the OC. Are you blind?
I didn't mention Robinson. Robinson came to UK already haven performed at a all conference level. As I stated in my original post. Levis couldn't get starter snaps at PSU because of his lack of passing skill. Coen fixed his hitch and tweaked his footwork, thus developing him into a draft pick. It's not hard to comprehend. It also is not my opinion. Levis credits Coen and so does every knowledgeable football talking head. I hate that he left, but I can compartmentalize my dislike for him and keep that separate from the respect for his coaching ability. I'm not a football coach, so I lean toward folks that are experts like Freddie Maggard, Van Hiles, Cole Cubelic etc to help understand nuance that I might be ignorant of.So Coen is s
Are you serious. Coen in his one year with Will developed him into an NFL QB. Same for Robinson?
Coen had a miserable year as OC for the Rams especially in the prism of coming off a SB and then making the playoffs this past year. Then to Ky where we were last in the nation in plays run per game in spite of having a QB who was picked as the pre-season MVP in the ACC before being injured and transferring.
My guess is that the RAMS were happy that he left the second time and that Stoops and associates were ready to try something new in 2024.
Leary was not suited to the McVey Shanahan scheme. Too many years in no huddle shotgun spread dink & dunk systems. Struggled having to huddle & call complex plays to teammates & blocking sets to O line.
Us getting Wisconsin qb who went to Florida might have been a better fit.
I thought I saw greater hesitation than his films revealed.And, yet, Leary seems to have regressed from his days at NC State. They claimed his injury was not a factor, but maybe it was.
Well the suspense is drowning out every other thought……..did they wind up with Bear or some dude named Bryant?And in ‘54 they got down to Bear and Bryant.
He made out like a banditLiam probably feels like a genius right now. Got out of this dumpster fire and has great chemistry with Mayfield. Calling a great game today. I think he knew Stoops was a mess.
I think he knew that his hands were tied with Stoops and recruitingHe made out like a bandit