Last 10 Yrs 1st/2nd Rd NCAAT Losses: Pitino 3, K 4, Self 4, Izzo 3, Cal 0

[dlh331]

He does have the 1 NIT 1st round exit but of the 9 NCAAT he has made he has:

35 NCAAT Wins (#1 in nation)
9 Sweet 16s (#1)
8 Elite 8s (#1)
5 Final 4s (#1)
3 Title Games (#1)
1 Title Tied for 3rd behind with Coach K and Billy D)

Cal is CLEARLY the nation's #1 coach from 2006-15.

Darryl

 

[KyFord]

Thank you, this is something I have been battling on the Duke board. For the past decade Cal has been right up there with K and was actually better until Duke won the title this year.

 

[dlh331]

Thank you, this is something I have been battling on the Duke board. For the past decade Cal has been right up there with K and was actually better until Duke won the title this year.

Coach K is not even close to Cal from 2006-15:

NCAAT Wins: Cal 35-8 to K 22-8
1st/2nd Round losses: Cal 0, Coach K 4
Sweet 16s: Cal 9, K 6
Elite 8s: Cal 8, K 3
Final 4s: Cal 5, K 2
Title Games: Cal 3, K 2
Titles: Cal 1, K 2

Regular season:

W/L: Cal 327-52 for 86.3% to Coach K 297-64 for 82.3%
Reg Season Conference Titles: Cal 7, K 2
Conference Tourney Titles: Cal 7, Coach K 4
30 Win Seasons: Cal 7, Coach K 6

Not really a contest, IMO.

Darryl

 

[340duster340]

Izzo and K are indeed in the next tier, Izzo is 23-9 in the tourney during that same period.
That said, both Izzo and K been doing it way longer, and consistently. Facts that shouldn't be dismissed.

 

[340duster340]

Edit, did a little research, intesting stat

Of coaches who have won 25 or more NCAA games, here is the list based on winning percentage.

1. K
2. Cal
3. Pitino
4. Donovan
5. Roy
6. Izzo
7. Calhoun
8. Dean
9. Self

 

[dlh331]

Izzo and K are indeed in the next tier, Izzo is 23-9 in the tourney during that same period.
That said, both Izzo and K been doing it way longer, and consistently. Facts that shouldn't be dismissed.

How do you figure Izzo has been doing it way longer and more consistently than Calipari? Cal started coaching
in 1989 and Izzo in 1996.

Izzo 20 years, Cal 23 years and the on court results are very similar.

Darryl

 

[Blueblood22]

The one year he didn't make the Elite Eight helped us get him. If he continues to advance in the 2009 NCAA tournament. Barnhart might have gone to his second choice.

Talk about an eerie coincidence.

 

[340duster340]

How do you figure Izzo has been doing it way longer and more consistently than Calipari? Cal started coaching
in 1989 and Izzo in 1996.

Izzo 20 years, Cal 23 years and the on court results are very similar.

Darryl

My bad, I was wrong. Didn't realize Cal had been around that long.
I am old, next thing you know I will be looking for my wallet in the fridge.

 

[WonderBraa]

All I care about is championships

 

[dlh331]

My bad, I was wrong. Didn't realize Cal had been around that long.
I am old, next thing you know I will be looking for my wallet in the fridge.

I know the feeling. I am getting ready to hit 65.

Darryl

 

[dlh331]

All I care about is championships

Most UK seasons must suck for you then.

Darryl

 

[WonderBraa]

I mean yea, it sucks losing in the final four. But to clarify, I don't care how many 1st/2nd round losses a coach has. I'm more interested in seeing the championship numbers.

 

[W2R]

I mean yea, it sucks losing in the final four. But to clarify, I don't care how many 1st/2nd round losses a coach has. I'm more interested in seeing the championship numbers.

I get it. Titles are the main goal. But what other school besides Duke and uconn with their multiple titles can say they have had a better ride? Ever since Gillespie was chased out of town and Cal,stepped up to,the mic, UK was placed back on top. We have major recruiting success, to title games multiple final,fours. Ect. Not to mention the injury to WCS, and poythress. Who,knows......I hate we didn't finish last season with two more wins but the Cal era has been great. He has taken us to almost 1/4 of our final four in our beloved history. Think,about that for a moment. In 100 years, 5 coaches, and Cal alone is responsible for 4 of our 17 in only 6 years.

 

[.S&C.]

Very impressive stats no doubt. But my issue from here on out isn't IF cal is great, or even IF Cal is the top coach of the last ____________. It's HOW GREAT is he going to be. I'm interested in seeing how far he can go. I think he's in a great position for climbing the latder in the next 7 years. So far though, he's been incredible and one of the best, and was close to being the undisputed best.

Who argues he's not the best or second best coach right now? Beyond K how is there an argument for anyone else? Who is arguing it?

 

[UKWildcats#8]

All I care about is championships

Then I think you need to reevalute why you watch sports.

Sports for fans is all about the journey and the ride each season. The destination rarely ends with a championship for any team in any sport. In college basketball you have a few guys like K, Calhoun (when he was active), Pitino, and Roy that have won titles with different teams...but it is tough to do. Donovan has 2 because his whole damn team returned. I shudder to think how dominant 2013 UK would have been with everyone back minus Miller...but eh, such is life. You have to play with the hand you are dealt. Winning a title is hard, except for the really great ones like a K, Pop, Hoodie, Jackson, etc, and even those guys had some long stretches of not so good ball. Hoodie a decade with the Patriots, Pop 7 years with the Spurs, K had his down stretches...and those are some of the best coaches ever in their sports. I digress.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Yeah, but ONLY Cal has more talent than other teams in the first and second round. Those others have to outcoach their opponent.

 

[johnl1219]

Coach K is not even close to Cal from 2006-15:

NCAAT Wins: Cal 35-8 to K 22-8
1st/2nd Round losses: Cal 0, Coach K 4
Sweet 16s: Cal 9, K 6
Elite 8s: Cal 8, K 3
Final 4s: Cal 5, K 2
Title Games: Cal 3, K 2
Titles: Cal 1, K 2

Regular season:

W/L: Cal 327-52 for 86.3% to Coach K 297-64 for 82.3%
Reg Season Conference Titles: Cal 7, K 2
Conference Tourney Titles: Cal 7, Coach K 4
30 Win Seasons: Cal 7, Coach K 6

Not really a contest, IMO.

Darryl

As a Duke fan, I wouldn't argue that K has had better results than Cal the past 10 years in the NCAA Tourney, because he hasn't. The one stat that stands out is with the two final fours for Duke, they also won the title in those two seasons. That's what people will remember.

If UK had closed one of those other final four appearances and won a title, people would remember that more than just playing on the final weekend.

It seems like people will say, at least IMO, that Duke and K closed the deal in those two final four seasons and UK and Cal only closed 1 of 3. Not a great argument, but I can see people saying that.

I think it goes without saying, Cal has had some serious success in the NCAA Tourney the past 10 years and no one can argue that.

 

[eRUPPtion78]

Who cares about 1st/2nd round losses if you still win championships? Give Cal another title or two if it means he has some first-round losses every now and then every day in my book. Give me Coach K's last 6 years in the tournament over Cal's every time. 2 titles > 1 title.

What's worse -- a 1st-round NIT loss to a non-tournament team or a 1st-round NCAA Tournament loss?

Do you think you would have enjoyed winning the title with a few losses last year less than watching us go 38-1? Yeah, didn't think so.

Titles over everything. Winning is fun, but I want banners (of the national championship variety).

 

[KMKAT]

Had Cal won last year, this is not a conversation. Since we are past last season, K is going to get every national media benefit.

But where are we without Cal? I shudder to think of the consequences.

 

[eRUPPtion78]

Had Cal won last year, this is not a conversation. Since we are past last season, K is going to get every national media benefit.

But where are we without Cal? I shudder to think of the consequences.

Or in 2010...2011...2014...

I wouldn't trade Cal for anyone...ANYONE...except Coach K. Hate him or love him, he's the best active coach on the planet in my opinion.