KU shoots last 13 FTs of the game

[KnowsAllTellsAll]

One of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. For the first time ever I actually saw a moving screen called n the guy who was dribbling the basketball. At halftime Kansas had 16 fouls and Oklahoma had 5. Oklahamo had 18 made free throws at one time and Kansas had 4 free throw attemtps.

Exactly. Also, here is the inbounds rule, notice there is no mention of this imaginary 3 feet being mentioned by some Kentucky fans here:

"No opponent of the thrower-in shall have any part of his person over
the inside plane of the boundary line."

Also, KU had a lead prior to the steal.

Here is the foul which was NOT called which occurred prior to the Lucas over the back call. If this foul to Mason was called, Mason would have gone to the free throw line to end the game in favor of KU in regulation:

 

[KDcats11]

I still haven't seen one KU fan bring up the two missed goaltend calls the Jayhawks got away with. Again, Kansas is a great team but they got some huge calls in key moments.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

Frank Mason touched Hield on that inbound too. Kansas also got away with two goaltends during the game. But that's home court advantage for you.

And both goaltends were on a foul, so both should have been and 1's.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

One of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. For the first time ever I actually saw a moving screen called n the guy who was dribbling the basketball. At halftime Kansas had 16 fouls and Oklahoma had 5. Oklahamo had 18 made free throws at one time and Kansas had 4 free throw attemtps.

Odd. You haven't posted on this board since May, now here you are all the sudden talking up and defending KU.

Not to mention, You seem to only post in threads about KU. Hmm. I'm not calling you out as a KU troll just yet, but considering you mainly only post in KU threads and 20 of your 24 posts are about KU, something just seems off.

 

[Schwagg]

Kansas is a good team not great. Losing to MSU & the loss that should have happened today r the only top 25 caliber teams they have played. I would say KU is a top 10 team but not top 5. Luck & fortunate officiating have placed KU as a 1 or 2 seed many times in the past decade. This team is no different. Bill Self is a poor tournament coach with an excellent toupe.

 

[musrat59]

Is this the last year for their seventh year senior.

 

[Montana81]

Mason got hit on the drive with like 4 seconds left. Awful no call IMO.

I saw missed calls both ways tbh. OU just looked like they had finally ran out of gas in the 3rd OT.

I honestly don't know which is the better team after watching that game however. They really could be the top 2 in the country. I still really like UNC and Virginia as well however.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

Goodman and SVP just broke down that inbounds play, showed it numerous times and it showed Mason touching the inbounder and even stepping over the line.

Then they showed post game with Mason who said the ref told him to stay back but then he said once he handed him the ball he ignored that because the ref couldn't do anything about it.

Ha, guess "wouldn't" do anything about it is more accurate.

Absolute mugging.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Are you really posting that after I just watched you whine about the refs with Shwagg for 16 pages?

I complained about the refs for 16 pages?

Where did that happen? Sure you're not confusing me with someone else? Can you provide some evidence to back up that claim?

 

[BBUK]

I complained about the refs for 16 pages?

Where did that happen? Sure you're not confusing me with someone else? Can you provide some evidence to back up that claim?

Don't worry SoS, he also told a poster to get out of here... Go figure...

 

[Jazzycat]

Great game to watch. Missed free throws hurt OU in regulation. Both teams have the personnel to win it all. UK will have their hands full at AFH.

 

[spudinthehouse]

Frank Mason touched Hield on that inbound too. Kansas also got away with two goaltends during the game. But that's home court advantage for you.

I agree, KDcat. As an official myself, they put the ball at a spot where he only had 18 inches out of bounds. Then the official failed to inform the defender to give him 3 feet, so that the defender doesn't have an advantage. He was so close that the inbounder could hardly rotate from one side to the other. Now, that was only one play, but it was a BIG PLAY.

 

[Willy4UK]

Absolute mugging.

Did Mason end up getting arrested for that?


Should have.

 

[BBUK]

Did Mason end up getting arrested for that?


Should have.

Nah, par for the course...ah...court...

 

[KneeBurns]

Sports is always funny, people talk about the last play quite often. And rarely, the 3,443 plays before.

 

[khuff80]

Why would you go into it with that closed mind though? If the refs change the game, should they not get called out for that?

***FTAs were 15-1 in favor of OU at the half......does that smell like "home cooking"?!?! Not to mention the play that Self got T'd up for....I think I'd've gotten T'd up for that one too. 5-point swing on that one play as KU would've had a breakaway the other way as opposed to 3 FTas for OU.

 

[khuff80]

The funny part is that Kansas always flames out in the tournament wayyyyyy too early when they aren't propped up by the big 12 officials and they don't understand why. haha Kansas is a good team but the Big 12 should be embarrassed by Frank Mason's comments post game about the ineptitude of their officials.

propped up by Big XII officials that were screwing them all night 'til the bitter end? Don't exactly get that criticism.

 

[khuff80]

How does any fan question officiating when they do make a correct call when a player goes and chokes the free throw. They made a call and Oklahoma's guy missed.

***Not to mention said OU player who missed the FT SHOULD have been called for a foul himself on Mason's drive upon seeing the replay swiping Mason across the face.

 

[khuff80]

Given the turnover, it's a tough no call.

1 play doesn't make a game because that assumes that the game has been officiated perfectly otherwise. You hope that the refs don't have to be the reason for an outcome to end the game.

OU got a chance at the line with 2 seconds left in regulation to hit a free throw and win. That would have been a disappointment to a great game.

Was there a foul for over the back? Looked like it to me.

However, in the exact same possession Mason drives to the basket and is raked across the face, and there's no foul called. They show it clear as day on the replay during the telecast from the above angle camera. Mason subsequently misses the shot he was fouled on, and then the over the back foul is called to put OU at the line to win it with 2 seconds left.

Point being, every single game in every single sport is going to have a handful of questionable calls, bad calls, and missed calls. Neither team was denied numerous opportunities to win the game. Good and bad calls went for both teams. The result was an outstanding and entertaining game!

The best part is that both teams will play again at Oklahoma, and possibly a 3rd time in either the Big 12 tournament or the NCAA Tournament.

***You have a weird memory.......you recall correctly that Lattin swiped him across the face....but he didn't get to go to the FT-line for that.....it was just a missed shot and that was the play when Lucas then goes and commits the stupid foul.

 

[khuff80]

I still haven't seen one KU fan bring up the two missed goaltend calls the Jayhawks got away with. Again, Kansas is a great team but they got some huge calls in key moments.

***Hey, all in all by the end of the game there were CLOSE to = calls missed or made that benefit or hurt both sides...I'd say things pretty much evened out....was DEFINITELY in OU's favor the first at least 15 mins. though...no doubt about that.

 

[khuff80]

Absolute mugging.

THAT'S AFTER IT'S ALREADY A LOOSE BALL!!!!

 

[KneeBurns]

Kansas is a good team not great. Losing to MSU & the loss that should have happened today r the only top 25 caliber teams they have played. I would say KU is a top 10 team but not top 5. Luck & fortunate officiating have placed KU as a 1 or 2 seed many times in the past decade. This team is no different. Bill Self is a poor tournament coach with an excellent toupe.

Sagarin: #1
Pomeroy: #2
RPI: #3


But, if you say they're not a top-5 team, I'll take your word over these data services.

 

[Ugoff]

THAT'S AFTER IT'S ALREADY A LOOSE BALL!!!!

The replay they had on Sportscenter clearly shows Mason jumping and landing out of bounds while Heild is still holding the ball.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

One of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. For the first time ever I actually saw a moving screen called n the guy who was dribbling the basketball. At halftime Kansas had 16 fouls and Oklahoma had 5. Oklahamo had 18 made free throws at one time and Kansas had 4 free throw attemtps.

It was 12 to 5, not 16.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

The fact that Mason was out of bounds and the first to touch the ball was another thing missed. So many things went their way in the OTs.

 

[3rex]

One of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. For the first time ever I actually saw a moving screen called n the guy who was dribbling the basketball. At halftime Kansas had 16 fouls and Oklahoma had 5. Oklahamo had 18 made free throws at one time and Kansas had 4 free throw attemtps.

Where, anywhere, do the rules say they the fouls & free throws should be even, or similar? The truth is that in many games one team just happens to foul more than the other.
One of the worst additions to scoreboards in the last 20 years is the number of fouls. Invariably, in the course of a game, a coach will point out to the ref a discrepancy in fouls, as if they are being cheated.
Would love to see one ref respond to such whining by a coach with 3 words...."well, stop fouling."

Edit: foreverandaday...not meaning to single you out. Just a pet peeve & you're post was there.

 

[docholiday51]

Sports is always funny, people talk about the last play quite often. And rarely, the 3,443 plays before.

Posts like this are just wrong, that play at that time decided the game. A call( or non call in this case) was the difference in who won and who lost. The only difference is which side of the fence the poster is on.

 

[3rex]

Saw a tweet that said "Ellis had a game that he will be telling his grandkids about...as soon as he gets home from the game."

 

[struggler]

***thank***God***we***have***khuff80***to***make***all***the***corrections***for***the***ignorant.
Jeez. No one from KU has mentioned the phantom walking call made on Lattin after he grabbed a much needed rebound - allowing KU another 30 seconds to score and they did. OU messed itself up by not finishing in regulation. This allowed the refs to really keep KU in it in the OT's. Both teams are good and made shots, but there was a CLEAR advantage in the OT reffing. The Frank Mason inbounds play alone is an embarrassment. The missed goal-tends/basket interference calls in regulation would have given OU their hard earned victory in regulation... all that would be said is OU won a close one in Lawrence. I hate those narrow sidelines like at KU, Florida and Duke that really contribute to these problems. Yes bad and missed calls both ways - but with the GAME ON THE LINE- OU's final possession in an overtime - the ref clearly gave it to KU. Mason was over the line and even touched Hield on the chest with his left hand.

 

[PenetrateAndScore]

***You have a weird memory.......you recall correctly that Lattin swiped him across the face....but he didn't get to go to the FT-line for that.....it was just a missed shot and that was the play when Lucas then goes and commits the stupid foul.

What are you talking about? I said Mason got fouled going to the basket. No foul was called, and he missed the shot. Subsequently, both teams went for the rebound and Lucas went over the back - which the refs called a foul on him for.

I'm not having selective memory .

 

[UPSCat4080]

I change my mind, after watching Sportscenter (I had no idea you had to give them 3 feet - I'm not brushed up on my rules) that has to be called. Especially when it changes the game like that. He hits Hield while he is taking it out of bounds ... pretty amazing.

Then you must have never played a game of organized basketball because you learn the 3ft rule in elementary school. How can you sit there and criticize people for their opinions when you don't have a flipping clue about the game of basketball lol?

 

[khuff80]

Posts like this are just wrong, that play at that time decided the game. A call( or non call in this case) was the difference in who won and who lost. The only difference is which side of the fence the poster is on.

***Um, what?!?!?! Could understand that at the end of regulation....there wasn't anything at the end of the 3rd overtime to point to in that regard.

 

[khuff80]

***thank***God***we***have***khuff80***to***make***all***the***corrections***for***the***ignorant.
Jeez. No one from KU has mentioned the phantom walking call made on Lattin after he grabbed a much needed rebound - allowing KU another 30 seconds to score and they did. OU messed itself up by not finishing in regulation. This allowed the refs to really keep KU in it in the OT's. Both teams are good and made shots, but there was a CLEAR advantage in the OT reffing. The Frank Mason inbounds play alone is an embarrassment. The missed goal-tends/basket interference calls in regulation would have given OU their hard earned victory in regulation... all that would be said is OU won a close one in Lawrence. I hate those narrow sidelines like at KU, Florida and Duke that really contribute to these problems. Yes bad and missed calls both ways - but with the GAME ON THE LINE- OU's final possession in an overtime - the ref clearly gave it to KU. Mason was over the line and even touched Hield on the chest with his left hand.

**Oh, shut up already!!!! There was also a CLEAR advantage during regulation to OU DESPITE the fact that it was a KU home game!!!

 

[khuff80]

What are you talking about? I said Mason got fouled going to the basket. No foul was called, and he missed the shot. Subsequently, both teams went for the rebound and Lucas went over the back - which the refs called a foul on him for.

I'm not having selective memory .

**Agreed...went back and reread your post. Sorry.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Sagarin: #1
Pomeroy: #2
RPI: #3


But, if you say they're not a top-5 team, I'll take your word over these data services.

Obviously they are, but please don't point to those flawed systems for your proof. Kenpom has UL over both teams that beat them. And they haven't beaten anyone better than Wake Forest. Their record and the eye test are both far better at this point of the season.

 

[Kiimohawk]

Oklahoma at the line: 18-24
Kansas at the line: 18-23

Both sides yelling at the refs for getting jobbed.

 

[struggler]

Oklahoma at the line: 18-24
Kansas at the line: 18-23

Both sides yelling at the refs for getting jobbed.

More to reffing than foul calls - ie the missed goaltends, phantom walking violations, non-call on the inbounds

 

[Kiimohawk]

If you're going to list missed calls, list them for both sides.

 

[struggler]

**Oh, shut up already!!!! There was also a CLEAR advantage during regulation to OU DESPITE the fact that it was a KU home game!!!

***YAY***I got my own***correction!!! I said clearly in OT not regulation. If your gonna make a living correcting people - learn to pay attention to details. If ESPN spent time breaking down the final noncall... there is a problem. It's cool though. KU is a good team and definitely tough to beat at home with BIG XII reffing. I'm just grateful the NCAA tourney isn't played in Lawrence. Recent results would argue there is a big difference in results.

 

[docholiday51]

***Um, what?!?!?! Could understand that at the end of regulation....there wasn't anything at the end of the 3rd overtime to point to in that regard.

A fair point, it appears a foul occurred on the last shot in regulation. Yes it was a game changing situation and that is exactly my point. I don't care who won or lost. A missed call 2 minutes into the game or at the 10 minute mark doesn't have the same effect as a call(or non call with 10 seconds left in the game)

By rule Mason deserved a T for touching a player or ball out of bounds while said player was attempting to inbound the ball