Kofi announcing Friday
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This has become a cottage industry. Problem is, you have to pay for their "insight" which they all lay out qualifiers for on every call they make.
It's like their memories have been wiped.
We watched a loaded roster try to force feed the post and get backdoor and PnR'd to death playing two centers and Trey Lyles at the same time but think it's going to work better trying to do the same with worse players?
No, actually define it. What makes a player a star? Production, draft status, awards and honors, what's the criteria?
Maybe both or maybe they got word he wasn't willing to take less minutes. Who knows? Matters not anymore apprently.
We haven’t played a game yet, how do we know a star won’t emerge?
We thought we had a couple of stars last year (Boston, Clarke) and didn’t.
It is hard to tell in July whether we have a star or not.
I personally look for Washington to emerge in that superstar role.
Cal’s track record with 5-star PG’s is pretty good.
What do we do when Oscar is on the bench with fouls have the game?Lance trys hard but he has zero offense.Collins is almost as skinny as Chet.The SEC is a man's game inside.
There's just too much conflicting info. We were the instant sure-thing, he was quoted as saying we're a "serious option," we're in his final three, but apparently our coach never talked to him and we didn't recruit him?
Those things can't all be true.
This is where I'm at. This roster should provide a lot of wins, but not sure it's a FF roster as of today.
Now if a couple of guys have breakout years then that could change their trajectory.
So based on your last statement, what are your thoughts regarding Grady and Mintz being "good?" How's about OT for that matter, or Brooks, or any of our guys who couldn't cut it in the draft? Our potential lottery picks are projects. Is it a good thing to go into the season hoping that you somehow end up with an SGA or a Herro, as opposed to knowing you have a Karl Towns or De'Aaron Fox? I'd prefer the latter. So would Cal. He's winning 37.3 games per season when he has a super stud on the team, and he's winning about tens games less per season when he lacks a legitimate upper echelon lottery pick.
And to your first inference: Kofi put himself in the transfer portal. That's a fact, right? Do you know if our coaches legitimately reached out? What if they didn't? It's being reported that Cal didn't reach out. I'd personally feel more confident going into the season with a legitimate All-American, as opposed to more guessing like last year's squad.
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Some people just ask nicely for followers.
I would say a guy who impacts the game on both ends. KAT, AD, Wall, etc. A guy that teams have to account for on both ends.
You do what every other team in the country will do, I suppose.
Nobody is 13 deep with 5 stars. If Ware and Collins both suck and Oscar is in foul trouble then I guess we'll just lose that game. We're going to lose a few. I promise.
What happens if Washington sucks and Wheeler gets hurt and Frederick has his leg amputated and Mintz retires?
You can't possibly build a roster that's catastrophe proof. If all your worst case scenario hypotheticals happen, we're in trouble. So is every team on earth.
Dating back to 1996, five seasons with a minimum of 35 wins each, all with a top 2 pick on the roster.
Kofi wasn't that, but as a returning 2nd Team All-American, he's a lot closer to that than Oscar or Collins or Ware.
I think the point is to have the most talented team possible. We have a bunch of really food players, and maybe that will be enough, but I'd prefer having a guy who you know you can rely on when it comes to scoring in the half court.
So don't try and improve the team?You don't think Cal should have gone after Kofi?
They could be. Sure thing was coming from so called insiders.
Serious option could have been how he felt if they offered. Lots of players use UK as a bargaining or status chip.
I would say that Cal talked to O and Chin and got their feel about how it would work with Kofi and Big O. If Kofi would take less minutes or be able to play good enough defense.
We have two 5-stars at the 5. We have a 6’9 260 lbs monster and a 6’10 215 lbs pogo stick.
Most teams look at our roster and say, “man I wish we had two 5-stars at Center.”
It will be alright. It might cost us a game or two when Tshiebwe is in foul trouble, but that’s okay.
Every team has its weaknesses. That’s just part of it.
I don't think either of them are transcendent players either. Doesn't mean they can't be good college players, but the next guy who transfers and carries a team to a title will be the first.
I'd like to see a bit clearer data on those numbers you gave. What's a super stud? I've seen you post it before about Cal having the number one pick or whatever, but this thread is about a guy who is more likely to go undrafted than be a first round pick. So that doesn't apply here.
The point is nobody knows anything. Kofi says we're in his top three. Apparently he's going back to Illinois. You don't have a list if you don't transfer. You don't make the top three if you don't reach out. Unless the whole thing was brand building and leverage to have your demands met from Illinois.
We had a 5 star in Boston who was supposed to be great and see how that turned out.I'm counting on nothing from Collins.Kofi was proven.
How do you land a guy who isn't transferring?
How do you know we didn't go after him? We're in his top 3. It was apparently a lock until yesterday. Trying to build any narrative based on a bunch of conflicting info is silly. You can't even choose what to be mad about.
I think Sarr gets bashed unfairly.He actually had pretty good numbers for a bad teamIt hurt not having a point guard but the knock on him is he was always soft.Can't say that about Kofi.
This might be Cal protecting his players. Psychologically speaking.
Tshiebwe left WVU after they tried to play him and Culver together.
Cal told Tshiebwe we would play 4 out around him.
How does it look to bring a guy in and then recruit over him the same way the coach did at his previous school?
Sometimes it’s not about X’s and O’s, but about Jimmy’s and Joe’s as they say.
Team chemistry is a delicate thing to balance for a coach.
Tshiebwe left WVU after they tried to play him and Culver together.
Cal told Tshiebwe we would play 4 out around him.
How does it look to bring a guy in and then recruit over him the same way the coach did at his previous school?
Sometimes it’s not about X’s and O’s, but about Jimmy’s and Joe’s as they say.
Team chemistry is a delicate thing to balance for a coach.
Everybody on last year's team gets bashed unfairly.
The point is nobody is proven with this many new circumstances. It's not even a guarantee Kofi will be any good for Illinois with all the guards they lost and his coaches gone.
Fact is nobody but the staff and Kofi know what’s going on - none of us know if he was seriously considered
Did Antiqua & Chin promise not to poach?
Did Oscar & Brooks get pissed about minutes ?
Has Druen gave a indication he is coming?
Does Cal want to mimick Baylor & play 4 out 1 in?
Does Kofi not want to compete again with a crowded front court
Hopefully we will get the answer but I’m ok with what we got
Did Antiqua & Chin promise not to poach?
Did Oscar & Brooks get pissed about minutes ?
Has Druen gave a indication he is coming?
Does Cal want to mimick Baylor & play 4 out 1 in?
Does Kofi not want to compete again with a crowded front court
Hopefully we will get the answer but I’m ok with what we got
If Cal is that weak maybe he need a new line of work.That's part of his job and he's the highest paid coach.Maybe he is becoming too sensitive about taking a player's heart.
Bashed? Some may do that, but there was a lot of fair criticism as well. Askew struggled mightily as did Boston. Brooks was on and off. Sarr was out of postion imo. Jackson had moments. The pieces didn't fit.
That or he is just trying to manage a roster the best he can.
A team is more than just the sum of its parts.
I’m fine rolling with the roster we have now but CAL is on the HOT seat and this season for him is probably his most important. You have to go after a player who on paper is an upgrade over what you have on the roster.
I don’t know but Cal better figure it out because there’s a gaping hole at the 5. Oscar may want to play more minutes but I also want a Learjet on 24 hour standby but it ain’t happening lol.
He’s big and physical and over the course of his career has been prone to fouling out. Rumors floating around from sources say podcast that coach did not even talk to Coffee? If so that’s so weird.
It’s so frustrating, I feel like we are always one player away from being a title contender. This team is still good. A top 15 team. Possibly even an elite 8.
With Duran or Kofi they are a final 4 team, that’s the difference.
You are exactly right my friend. That is the problem. Oscar is a damn good player. He’s also prone to fouls. God for bid an injury. If that happens imagine Collins going up against Kofi At Illinois. I’m not sure Collins could hang with him. Could get thrown around like a ragdoll. And if not who else do we have? Frustrating.
He was criticized. I guess my definition of bashing is calling a player dumb or lazy, or something along those lines. More personal kind of stuff. Saying Askew was not a good PG is not bashing imo.
Sarr was not a good finisher around the basket. At 7ft, that is a problem.
No I totally agree.
I was just initially responding to a guy who said Sarr was bashed. I meant if Sarr was bashed, then everyone was bashed, because he got less criticism than just about every other rotation player.
I think TyTy will be a star. Collins has the potential to be one or at least around what IJ was. Grady averaged 17 points over 4 years and I know some will say it was at Davidson, but he did it against us his Freshman year. We have 12 guys who can really play which we haven't had in a while. I would like one more big because of foul trouble, but I think this group will be strong together.
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