Yep, that is BS for sure! And this coming from someone who despises the way Harden plays the game.Originally posted by LineSkiCat:
Call me a Rockets homer.. but he has no business being in the starter for the West over Harden... A player who is making a strong push for MVP this year.
Total BS.
So sad when someone is a year behind the point he's trying to argue. Harden has been anything but a defensive liability this year. He's a reason why until a week ago (after playing GSW twice), they were top3 in the nation in opponents PPG. You shouldn't use talking points if you're not even keeping up with the topic.Originally posted by 3rex:
All-star games are for the fans & if they want Kobe over Har-en, then that's the way it should be.
If Har-en ends up starting, will they have someone to play defense on his man for him?
You can thank china for that (and this comment is not intended to be sarcastic)Originally posted by LineSkiCat:
Call me a Rockets homer.. but he has no business being in the starter for the West over Harden... A player who is making a strong push for MVP this year.
Total BS.
I think the NBA will "make sure" both NY and LA get a top 5 pick. Yes, I do think there is some shady stuff that goes on there.Originally posted by Chino1176:
As a lifelong lakers fan, please retire kobe. Please. As long as the lakers lose enough to get a top 5 pick and retain it. Otherwise it goes to the suns b/c of the dumb azz trade they made for decrepit azz steve nash.
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He's not gonna retire because of that ridiculous contract Kupchak gave him.Originally posted by Chino1176:
As a lifelong lakers fan, please retire kobe. Please. As long as the lakers lose enough to get a top 5 pick and retain it. Otherwise it goes to the suns b/c of the dumb azz trade they made for decrepit azz steve nash.
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They had a plan. The plan was to bring in Chris Paul and Dwight. They traded for Chris Paul and David Stern killed it. Dwight didn't work, but would he have worked if he were playing with Paul? I think so.Originally posted by truebluewildcat:
I hate to see icons and legends of the game go out limping and not with much of a bang...
Not a Kobe lover or hater...not a lakers lover or hater...I respect what they have done together over the years...
However, I can't help but think that they both went about his last years all wrong...
Lakers and Kobe should have gotten together about 4-5 years ago and really plan out how the final stretch was going to go from pay and roster, to minutes on the court and how many games to sit each year...
1) they needed to surround him with talent...
2) He needed to play nice, and allow them to surround him with talent and not chase people off...
3) both parties needed to understand that his minutes needed to be managed...like the Spurs...
They totally butt-fumbled everything...
Dwight was an epic fail because Kobe doesn't like to share and can't accept that not everyone is a stone cold killer like he is...Dwight isn't trying to step on throats...but he's a hell of a talent that could have helped, and been a nice piece for the lakers to build around post Kobe...
He had another shot to allow some things to be done the last contract go around...he could have allowed for a lot more room to attract people...
He could have been more outgoing/welcoming to prospective free agents like Lebron, Carmelo, and Bosh...maybe he could have spoken up and got something done to get Rondo...
Man, it's almost frustrating to see how a franchise full of folks making the big bucks just absolutely poop on some golden opportunities...
You mean you still haven't figured out that the NBA All Star starter vote is not actually about who's best?Originally posted by LineSkiCat:
Call me a Rockets homer.. but he has no business being in the starter for the West over Harden... A player who is making a strong push for MVP this year.
Total BS.
Yep, this. David Stern was still butthurt that his attempt to cheat the league vis-à-vis the draft lottery in 1986 never panned out for New York. He hates the Lakers.Originally posted by Aike:
They had a plan. The plan was to bring in Chris Paul and Dwight. They traded for Chris Paul and David Stern killed it. Dwight didn't work, but would he have worked if he were playing with Paul? I think so.Originally posted by truebluewildcat:
I hate to see icons and legends of the game go out limping and not with much of a bang...
Not a Kobe lover or hater...not a lakers lover or hater...I respect what they have done together over the years...
However, I can't help but think that they both went about his last years all wrong...
Lakers and Kobe should have gotten together about 4-5 years ago and really plan out how the final stretch was going to go from pay and roster, to minutes on the court and how many games to sit each year...
1) they needed to surround him with talent...
2) He needed to play nice, and allow them to surround him with talent and not chase people off...
3) both parties needed to understand that his minutes needed to be managed...like the Spurs...
They totally butt-fumbled everything...
Dwight was an epic fail because Kobe doesn't like to share and can't accept that not everyone is a stone cold killer like he is...Dwight isn't trying to step on throats...but he's a hell of a talent that could have helped, and been a nice piece for the lakers to build around post Kobe...
He had another shot to allow some things to be done the last contract go around...he could have allowed for a lot more room to attract people...
He could have been more outgoing/welcoming to prospective free agents like Lebron, Carmelo, and Bosh...maybe he could have spoken up and got something done to get Rondo...
Man, it's almost frustrating to see how a franchise full of folks making the big bucks just absolutely poop on some golden opportunities...
They have definitely fumbled things since then, but they had a good plan for sure.
For all the crooked things David Stern has done, killing that trade ranks right near the top.Originally posted by Prime MF:
Yep, this. David Stern was still butthurt that his attempt to cheat the league vis-à-vis the draft lottery in 1986 never panned out for New York. He hates the Lakers.Originally posted by Aike:
They had a plan. The plan was to bring in Chris Paul and Dwight. They traded for Chris Paul and David Stern killed it. Dwight didn't work, but would he have worked if he were playing with Paul? I think so.Originally posted by truebluewildcat:
I hate to see icons and legends of the game go out limping and not with much of a bang...
Not a Kobe lover or hater...not a lakers lover or hater...I respect what they have done together over the years...
However, I can't help but think that they both went about his last years all wrong...
Lakers and Kobe should have gotten together about 4-5 years ago and really plan out how the final stretch was going to go from pay and roster, to minutes on the court and how many games to sit each year...
1) they needed to surround him with talent...
2) He needed to play nice, and allow them to surround him with talent and not chase people off...
3) both parties needed to understand that his minutes needed to be managed...like the Spurs...
They totally butt-fumbled everything...
Dwight was an epic fail because Kobe doesn't like to share and can't accept that not everyone is a stone cold killer like he is...Dwight isn't trying to step on throats...but he's a hell of a talent that could have helped, and been a nice piece for the lakers to build around post Kobe...
He had another shot to allow some things to be done the last contract go around...he could have allowed for a lot more room to attract people...
He could have been more outgoing/welcoming to prospective free agents like Lebron, Carmelo, and Bosh...maybe he could have spoken up and got something done to get Rondo...
Man, it's almost frustrating to see how a franchise full of folks making the big bucks just absolutely poop on some golden opportunities...
They have definitely fumbled things since then, but they had a good plan for sure.
I couldnt agree more. I remember when Yao Ming who didnt play in like 2 season was named a starter!!Originally posted by JasonSpear:
Agreed.Originally posted by LineSkiCat:
Call me a Rockets homer.. but he has no business being in the starter for the West over Harden... A player who is making a strong push for MVP this year.
Total BS.
Fans are stupid. They should have no say in who plays in the game because as long as fans are voting, it's gonna be a popularity contest. Harden should be the 2 guard starter in the West.