Kentucky season about to go
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If KY loses this Saturday- and they shouldn’t- then yes, season is over. I believe they have at least 4 more losses before the SECT- IF they don’t have any more stinkers. That will be 9 losses in regular season. Add 2 more for the tournaments and Cal is staring down at 11 loses when, as other people put it, he finally has his type of recruits.
DJ, Bradshaw, and Edwards are not great and certainly not elite players that Cal needs. Relying on this many freshmen doesn’t work anymore. The Wall Street Journal had a great article talking about experience levels in the last several years of final fours.
One and dones are a losing proposition. Yes, I know Reeves and Mitchell are starting. My point is that is still too many freshman.
DJ, Bradshaw, and Edwards are not great and certainly not elite players that Cal needs. Relying on this many freshmen doesn’t work anymore. The Wall Street Journal had a great article talking about experience levels in the last several years of final fours.
One and dones are a losing proposition. Yes, I know Reeves and Mitchell are starting. My point is that is still too many freshman.
UK could lose Saturday, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they did. The season won’t be over though. It just means they have to win every home game and win @Vandy, @LSU, and @MSU. It’s a 4-5 road record, which isn’t good, but might be likely. Makes it crucial to win out at home, but that would put UK at 24-7 to end the regular season. That’s a 4 seed, with a chance for a 3. Not great, but it’s not a total collapse either. SEC road games are shit. Now, no excuses S. Carolina kicked the shit out of them, but 5-4 on the road is solid, 6-3 means you have some dogs. They still have a chance to get it going again, so we’ll see.
Would you rather have a player with more perceived “talent” or a player who has a bigger impact on winning now? Or, stated another way, would you rather have a 5-star high school recruit or a college All-American (or even just All-Conference)? Would you rather have Edwards or McCullar (or Reeves or Knecht)?
It’s really a false either-or choice, because you can have both. But as another poster here has wisely stated to me, you need balance. To give your team the best chance year-in-and-year-out, I believe you need a good core of returning players, multiple skilled, promising non-OAD freshmen (to develop and continually replenish your core), a couple of super-transfers from the portal, and one or two OADs.
Overwhelmingly, the best college basketball players each season are upperclassmen – and teams anchored by those better upperclassmen are the ones going to FFs and winning championships. So, the way it looks to me is that an OAD in the starting lineup is fine, but relying on 3-4 of them to carry your team is an unwise gamble and recipe for failure. (Now, having multiple OADs who have to compete based on production and efficiency with good upperclassmen, and therefore possibly/likely have to come off the bench, is a different thing.).
If Cal finishes yet another season with an early exit and a double digit season loss column? I don’t see how he’s here next year. Or if he is Rupp will be a ghost town.
We have lost big time with more experienced teams the two prior seasons as well. Cal is running out of combos here.
CBS guys think we lose 4 more games.
Cal's system is antiquated...he's the modern day equivalent of the ice box.
Have found it very difficult to post anything since the last loss. Extremely deflating loss. That said, I believe this saturday will determine where the season is headed. Win, and they need to string together a lot more of them in a row to get the highest seed possible for a possibly deep run in march.
Lose, and stick a fork in the season. These kids are just gonna play it out.
CCC did well to open up the offense, now his defense can't guard a wet paper bag.
I've been ready for a change at head ball coach for a LONG TIME. 6 years now ? Looks like finally everyone has come into agreement with me, and as I recall, I was the hardest ass on Cal from the get go. Sure, I've given him plenty of chances.
But at this point, my interest in even following the program is back to an all time low. If they tank this year, I'll prob'ly be gone from the boards again for another year or two.
It's that bad.
Here's hoping these boys grow up to become men and play nasty, angry, mad as hell, and get a killer instinct, especially taking defense personally. That's the only way. Because in the end, they are still going to have to overcome their
HEAD COACH.
sad. very sad.
Lose, and stick a fork in the season. These kids are just gonna play it out.
CCC did well to open up the offense, now his defense can't guard a wet paper bag.
I've been ready for a change at head ball coach for a LONG TIME. 6 years now ? Looks like finally everyone has come into agreement with me, and as I recall, I was the hardest ass on Cal from the get go. Sure, I've given him plenty of chances.
But at this point, my interest in even following the program is back to an all time low. If they tank this year, I'll prob'ly be gone from the boards again for another year or two.
It's that bad.
Here's hoping these boys grow up to become men and play nasty, angry, mad as hell, and get a killer instinct, especially taking defense personally. That's the only way. Because in the end, they are still going to have to overcome their
HEAD COACH.
sad. very sad.
I believe that’s regular season. I think this loser leave RR bet is season total. So if those guys end up being correct, and UK doesn’t win one of the tournaments, that’s 10.
I just find it really ridiculous that Tubby got ran out of town for being 10 loss Tubby. Heck Cal’s become 10 loss Cal with more TALENT!
Remember when us fans were talking national championship lol
That's probably being a little generous. Our schedule from here on out is murderer's row.
Probable losses:
@ Tennessee
Tennessee
@ Auburn
@ Mississippi State
Dicey toss-up games:
Alabama
@ LSU
Ole Miss
@ Arkansas (probably doesn't belong in this category, but we have zero answer for Mark and Brazile and their entire season hangs in the balance coming off a near-30-point loss).
Probable wins:
Vandy
@ Vandy
Florida
Gonzaga
Arkansas
Most will have confidence in our home games that I do not share. Wilmington already beat us at Rupp, and our defense is so bad that it can negate the crowd in a blink.
Not all freshman are the same.
If we had signed Brandon Miller, we would have won the title last year.
Recruited him just didn't sign him.
He made Livingston look like a 2 star.
The same Brandon Miller that completely shot his team out of the NCAA tournament by going 3-19 including 1-10 from 3?
I'll admit, I fell for it too.
I am well past that now. This team isn't good enough.
They have the individual tools to be good enough, but they just aren't, and I seriously doubt another month and change will make a difference.
Not as bad as the teams after Tuesday at SC, I bet.
I'm probably a little more optimistic than you, but I can't legitimately argue you're wrong.
Yes sir. I agree 1000% 87. Maybe Cal pulls this off. I don’t think so but I he has the pieces. The team is soft and needs to embrace- and take pride- in defense.
You know I predicted he would already be gone- so I was wrong. I also don’t think he will leave at the end of this year. Too much money guaranteed without ANY accountability.
Yeah the SEC POY.
SEC tourney MVP.
You been keeping up with his rookie season?
If not for Wemby, he's ROY.
You're saying Miller is NOT the type player we need to compete for a title?
If I recall correctly, Tubby’s contract was not like a ball and chain. Cal isn’t getting anything close to what he earns here. If he could get it, I think he would have left last year.
This is the guy I wanted the whole time! His overall HS numbers were amazing. He’s so versatile. Cal would’ve probably held him back, though.
Dad played at Bama.
We probably finished second for Miller, Cunningham and Banchero.
That's the equivalent of signing MKG,Wall and Randle.
There’s just no way I see him having support from the fan base at that point. You can’t have this much talent, a Kentucky born legacy player(who’s very skilled), up to 6 draft picks and crap the bed.
Must be a french translator to help these posts on Rivals…
Retreat Retreat!!!! LOL
I’ll wait for the games…
Retreat Retreat!!!! LOL
I’ll wait for the games…
I know Tuesday night sucked... but we have so long to go in this season. I think we right the ship and beat Arkansas. Would love to see a 10+ pt win with all eyes on us with Gameday being there. This COULD be the turning point we needed in the season. I think Edwards leash is getting shorter by the day, and changes could be made soon. We have to remember our seven footers have only played a few games and are still finding themselves. Let's get Adou back and that will be the very first time we have our full compliment of players. 13 reg season games and the SEC tournament is plenty of time for the correct rotation to be found. Now that part is certainly on Cal to do just that. But I think we have a chance to become scary good if we can put it together. It all starts with Saturday.
Cal isn’t near the X’s and O’s coach that Tubby was at UK.
You would think going undefeated was a common occurrence in college basketball with some of the ridiculous things that’s said on here.
PS: The troll content is up 10000000% since I was last posting here in 2017.
PS: The troll content is up 10000000% since I was last posting here in 2017.
And that folks is why you lift the seat up to vent the gas fumes before starting a PWC.
Anyway, Calipari better have this team as well as himself on FULL ALERT against ARKY. Lose this one and your staring at a 4 seed at best.
The season won't be over. The dilemma we have with this team is that it seems to have a low floor but high ceiling. Seems we will be fully capable of losing a 3/14, 4/13 or 5/12 game, while also being fully capable of making a FF.
I wouldn't bet against this team in March to make a run...but I also wouldn't bet on them making a run. I would have bet on the latter until Tuesday...I just didn't think we were capable of putting up that level of an offensive stinker tbh.
I know these are just a couple of examples but Cal does have a history of FF teams who struggled mightly in conference road games.
'11- were 5-5 between Jan and mid-Feb with 5 SEC road losses
'14- struggled closing out SEC play going 3-4 with 3 SEC road losses in final month of conference play
Those teams had highly talented guys which is what they have in common with this group.
Cal will have to adjust though, no question.
Fair and this team has all the talent in the world and can be atleast decent defensively. But a word in your last sentence on here has become the cal cult and calparis main defence. The word “if” has become a word to defend him and show that everybody is overreacting. If Kentucky does this and if Kentucky does that, Kentucky hasn’t done a lot of the “ifs” recently and the results show it
We just had a two time consensus AA and Wooden award winner that was an upperclassman. He was surrounded by a ton of upperclassmen and we won 1 tournament game in two years.
Hunter Dickinson and Zach Edey have won nothing of consequence in college.
Overwhelmingly, the teams that make FF's and win titles are those who are either dominant all season long or get hot at the right time.
UConn had 9 guys avg 10+ mins per game. Six of them were upperclassmen, but 3 of their top 6 guys were underclassmen. They also lost 6 of 9 games over a one month a start of conference play.
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I agree! IFs don't do anything for you. Potential energy has to, at some point, turn into kinetic energy for this team. I'm not defending Cal here, just saying we're only halfway through what still could be a special year. Hopefully we end up on the right side of the IF!
