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Excellent post.

I can't stand when people say EVERY voter in __________ party thinks ________ way. (All Democrats are godless heathens, all Republicans are racist bigots, etc, etc, etc)

I know some very liberal Republicans and some very conservative Democrats. In fact, I have a friend who is a gay atheist. He votes red. My mother is the most devoutly religious person I've ever met and considers "heck" a cussword. She votes blue.

The recent trend of white nationalism disguised as "patriotism' disgusts me, but I know those people have been brainwashed by right-wing media just as those who "hate" America have been brainwashed by the same forces on the left.

This is a nation of centrists. I just wish the wingnuts on both sides would understand this fact and shut their loud ass traps.

Totally agree. Dogma is one the biggest hurdles to moving our country forward. I think though, hopefully, it only seems worse now because of the internet.
 
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Excellent post.

I can't stand when people say EVERY voter in __________ party thinks ________ way. (All Democrats are godless heathens, all Republicans are racist bigots, etc, etc, etc)

I know some very liberal Republicans and some very conservative Democrats. In fact, I have a friend who is a gay atheist. He votes red. My mother is the most devoutly religious person I've ever met and considers "heck" a cussword. She votes blue.

The recent trend of white nationalism disguised as "patriotism' disgusts me, but I know those people have been brainwashed by right-wing media just as those who "hate" America have been brainwashed by the same forces on the left.

This is a nation of centrists. I just wish the wingnuts on both sides would understand this fact and shut their loud ass traps.

Go back and read the post. I didn't say all of a certain party does something. I said all of the people who do this specific thing vote the same way. That doesn't mean every one in the party. It means everyone who burns flags and constantly says this country isn't that great, sure as hell vote one way.
 
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Regardless of what your political or religious persuasion is, and notwithstanding how you live your life, we all get on this board and speak our minds, knowing whatever we might write will have little to no impact on our lives, the lives of our families, or, as the writer Arundhati Roy wrote, our ability to pursue beauty to its lair.

And then there's Enes.

He's chosen to speak up against what he considers to be something evil. He's done that knowing it WILL impact his life, his family, his ability to pursue beauty. He's a true hero. I'm proud to call him a member of BBN.
 
Excellent post.

I can't stand when people say EVERY voter in __________ party thinks ________ way. (All Democrats are godless heathens, all Republicans are racist bigots, etc, etc, etc)

I know some very liberal Republicans and some very conservative Democrats. In fact, I have a friend who is a gay atheist. He votes red. My mother is the most devoutly religious person I've ever met and considers "heck" a cussword. She votes blue.

The recent trend of white nationalism disguised as "patriotism' disgusts me, but I know those people have been brainwashed by right-wing media just as those who "hate" America have been brainwashed by the same forces on the left.

This is a nation of centrists. I just wish the wingnuts on both sides would understand this fact and shut their loud ass traps.
Great points.....I also have a gay friend who opposes gay marriage , hates welfare, quotes the bible regularly, has a picture of Ronald Reagan hanging in his house and never votes Democrat. Unfortunately, gerrymandering has led to the current state of congressional representation that absolutely doesn't represent America. It represents the wing nuts of the extreme right and left and is not a good way to carry out true democracy. The moderate voter, poor and middle class are the great losers in this millionaires club grand design.
 
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Which party colludes with or facilitates collusion with the Russians again?

Previous poster was correct. Both parties are corrupt.


LOL whaaaaat????

You might wanna look up what Kennedy did when running against Reagan

Been absolutely zero evidence of Rs colluding with russians. Way to out yourself as not a hater of both parties.
 
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LOL whaaaaat????

You might wanna look up what Kennedy did when running against Reagan

Been absolutely zero evidence of Rs colluding with russiansome. Way to out yourself as not a hater of both parties.

Is Kennedy President? I'm talking about here and now.

So he didn't meet with the Russians the day after firing the guy looking into it? No evidence? Are you serious??

Despite what you think, I like neither party. The whole system is setup to be corrupt and all politicians are up for sale these days as far as I can see. I've been consistent from day one saying so, good luck branding me and trying to minimize my opinion.
 
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Is Kennedy President? I'm talking about here and now.

So he didn't meet with the Russians the day after firing the guy looking into it? No evidence? Are you serious??


Despite what you think, I like neither party. The whole system is setup to be corrupt and all politicians are up for sale these days as far as I can see. I've been consistent from day one saying so, good luck branding me and trying to minimize my opinion.

You realize members of each party meet with russians weekly? Hell, the dems brought the ruskies to one of DTs speeches recently. I'll wait for one piece of evidence after almost a year of claims.

But this is the wrong thread for this convo. I invite you to political thread:
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/political-thread.93352/page-1937#post-5927351

The resident libs need some help anyways.
 
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You realize members of each party meet with russians weekly? Hell, the dems brought the ruskies to one of DTs speeches recently. I'll wait for one piece of evidence after almost a year of claims.

But this is the wrong thread for this convo. I invite you to political thread:
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/political-thread.93352/page-1937#post-5927351

The resident libs need some help anyways.

Just because I want the truth regardless of party doesn't mean you can place a label on me. Let's see if an unbiased investigation is allowed to continue and what results from it.

You ok with all Trump's loans after the crash in 2008 coming from the Russians? I've seen quotes from both his sons admitting it, are those lies too?

If there are ties to the Russians on either side and national security is at risk, throw them in jail. This selective disgust depending on party loyalty would be comical if it wasn't so damaging.
 
Go back and read the post. I didn't say all of a certain party does something. I said all of the people who do this specific thing vote the same way. That doesn't mean every one in the party. It means everyone who burns flags and constantly says this country isn't that great, sure as hell vote one way.

You're correct.

As long as Americans keep treating politics like sports, seeing political opponents as "enemies" and being convinced compromise with the other side is weakness rather than great strength, then, yep, we're gonna spew our MSNBC/Fox talking points back and forth at each other until the end of time.

Basically, IF someone is a shill for either side, I can't take them seriously because both sides could take a long, hard look in the mirror before pointing the finger at the other one.
 
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The Russians lmao.

The liberals ( or communist & Marxist today) had their ass handed to them in local, state, and federal levels of government over the last 8 years.

Over 1,000 total seats lost.

That is why the complicit and corrupt media and alt left progressive nuts want you to chase fairy tales around in your head. They don't want you to see that. They don't want you to see that the most insane form of American Liberalism to this point, socialism, fails and has failed for years and years around the globe.

On to Russian conspiracies and identity politics...........
 
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You're correct.

As long as Americans keep treating politics like sports, seeing political opponents as "enemies" and being convinced compromise with the other side is weakness rather than great strength, then, yep, we're gonna spew our MSNBC/Fox talking points back and forth at each other until the end of time.

Basically, IF someone is a shill for either side, I can't take them seriously because both sides could take a long, hard look in the mirror before pointing the finger at the other one.

I was sucked in. In fairness I waited and gave a lot of effort.
 
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The Russians lmao.

The liberals ( or communist & Marxist today) had their ass handed to them in local, state, and federal levels of government over the last 8 years.

Over 1,000 total seats lost.

That is why the complicit and corrupt media and alt left progressive nuts want you to chase fairy tales around in your head. They don't want you to see that. They don't want you to see that the most insane form of American Liberalism to this point, socialism, fails and has failed for years and years around the globe.

On to Russian conspiracies and identity politics...........

So he didn't compromise national security by revealing an allie's intelligence in a show of bravado? Dude is unstable, if you can't see that you aren't paying attention.
 
So he didn't compromise national security by revealing an allie's intelligence in a show of bravado? Dude is unstable, if you can't see that you aren't paying attention.

I've got news for you.

Obama was untouchable. You never heard much about what he was responsible for. It never leaked out. The media is a propoganda Wing of that party.

No, I do not believe Trump has done anything other presidents don't do. Hey, maybe you remember this!

"After my election, my last one, I'll have more flexibility to get things done."

Who said it? Who did he say it to?
 
I've got news for you.

Obama was untouchable. You never heard much about what he was responsible for. It never leaked out. The media is a propoganda Wing of that party.

No, I do not believe Trump has done anything other presidents don't do. Hey, maybe you remember this!

"After my election, my last one, I'll have more flexibility to get things done."

Who said it? Who did he say it to?

What's the current threat? If Obama did anything close to what Trump has done he'd be in jail by now. Republican led Congress would have seen to that. Since it's their guy, he's Teflon.

As I said, investigate. Let the chips fall where they may, Dem or Republican. Been saying forever they should clear house, enforce strict term limits, abolish gerrymandering and lobbying to even stand a chance of resolving this sh!tshow
 
So he didn't compromise national security by revealing an allie's intelligence in a show of bravado? Dude is unstable, if you can't see that you aren't paying attention.

Not at all....
 
What's the current threat? If Obama did anything close to what Trump has done he'd be in jail by now. Republican led Congress would have seen to that. Since it's their guy, he's Teflon.

As I said, investigate. Let the chips fall where they may, Dem or Republican. Been saying forever they should clear house, enforce strict term limits, abolish gerrymandering and lobbying to even stand a chance of resolving this sh!tshow

Obama in in jail? In what universe?

He was the most protected president ever. The media completely covered leaks and scandals. One after another. Should i list them?
 
Obama in in jail? In what universe?

He was the most protected president ever. The media completely covered leaks and scandals. One after another. Should i list them?

Media? Do they have the power to investigate and impeach? Last time I looked that was up to the Congress and they didn't do anything so...
 
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