Kansas loses again. Jayhawks have gained ZERO wins on UK in Pope's stopgap season.

[LineSkiCat14]

I wouldn't trade for KUs last 15 years since Cal got to Kentucky.

I know that the NCAAT is very tough to win. But any way you cut it, Bill Self's has underperformed come March. That's just a fact. And its not just missing the title. It's having a 1 or 2 seed and failing to make so many Final4s

 

[The_Answer1313]

I wouldn't trade for KUs last 15 years since Cal got to Kentucky.

I know that the NCAAT is very tough to win. But any way you cut it, Bill Self's has underperformed come March. That's just a fact. And its not just missing the title. It's having a 1 or 2 seed and failing to make so many Final4s

Tho same number of titles and one had much better seasons.

I don't know.

I mean don't get me wrong, I loved 2012, 2015 and a couple of other seasons in this run. it was extremely exciting.

But I'd venture to guess KU fans probably feel the same way about their last 15 years and wouldn't trade it with ours.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Tho same number of titles and one had much better seasons.

I don't know.

I mean don't get me wrong, I loved 2012, 2015 and a couple of other seasons in this run. it was extremely exciting.

But I'd venture to guess KU fans probably feel the same way about their last 15 years and wouldn't trade it with ours.

Same in titles but only two Final fours, the other one was vacated. That's pretty big to me. I think a Final4 is the next best thing you can achieve in sports outside of winning an actual championship. 4 games, single elimination, in a sport that's extremely volatile.

Cals first 7 years was unprecedented, the amount of winning we did.. and particularly winning in March pretty much covers everything Self has done at Kansas since 2010. Now, Cals downfall was big, and if we want to include that in the equation, I'm fine with that. His recent years certainly diminished his tenure.

But.. there's Self also having a lot of disappointing seasons. Losing to UNI, Stanford, 2nd round exits in 4 of the last 5 tournaments. You just have to be a little better than that in March. No one really cares or remembers conference play.

 

[twwilliams9]

Incorrect. Kentucky was +7 entering the 2024 season. Both teams finished the year with 23 wins and have the same amount of wins this season so +7.

Kentucky is college basketball's all-time wins leader after Kansas vacates 15 wins

After Kansas vacated 15 wins from the 2017-18 seasons due to NCAA violations, Kentucky is once again college basketball's all-time wins leader.

www.courier-journal.com

Wins since 1-18-25
Kansas (6) TCU, UCF. OSU, Iowa State, Colorado twice
Kentucky (5) Tennesee twice, Vandy, Oklahoma, South Carolina

Total to date
UK 2417
KU 2412

 

[legalbeagle123]

Wins since 1-18-25
Kansas (6) TCU, UCF. OSU, Iowa State, Colorado twice
Kentucky (5) Tennesee twice, Vandy, Oklahoma, South Carolina

Total to date
UK 2417
KU 2412

You're citing a KU fan post as authority, which is wrong.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Why are people spending two pages trying to figure this out?

I can't imagine it's that hard to get real time wins for each team LOL.

 

[hotelblue]

kansas about to do us another solid. down 57-50 with 5:25 left at houston.