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Just saw Charles Matthews live (report).

Son_Of_Saul

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Just came home from watching St. Rita's visit Providence Catholic in New Lenox, Illinois. Charles Matthews is as good as his ranking from last season, when he was a top 20 player. There's no way in hell there are 44 players better than him throughout the country. Here are some of the highlights from team's 63-43 win.

- Really improved shooting form. During shoot-around he was taking threes from 24-25 feet out, and making a good deal of them. Although he wasn't hitting them during the game (0-3 from three), his release point is solid and his form is actually better than Aaron Harrison's in my opinion. He gets off the ground for great elevation.

- Loves to go to his left, even though he's right handed. He can shoot layups with either hand, but he seemed to prefer going to his left as he almost exclusively attacked the left side of the court in the first half.

- Moves well without the ball. Providence threw a junk zone at St. Rita, begging Matthews to keep chucking the three (he was 0-2 in the first quarter but only took one three the rest of the way). Matthews didn't take the bait, instead moving on the baseline and catching two baseline passes that he finished with ease. Matthews was also doing a great job reading the zone coverage and flashing middle when he was off the ball. Once he caught the ball at the top of the key, he looked to attack or pull up. He buried four mid range jumpers, including one in Notre Dame football commit Miles Boykin's face. Matthews midrange jump shot is polished and will be utilized over the next few season's in Lexington because he gets it by starting off with a legitimate drive attack, wherein he breaks midway and pulls up. It was smooth. For a kid who was knocked last season for his limitations on the midrange pull-up, it appeared to me that Charles has drastically improved.

- Incredibly active defensively. He blocked a shot to end the first half that seemed to be off his elbow. He deflected four passes, and has three steals. He doesn't hound the ball relentlessly ala Liggins, but Rita alternated a zone and man-to-man, and when in man coverage, Matthews played off the ball, and completely locked up his man. When Matthews turned it on, his long arms made life miserable for Providence all night. If Cal wants to sick him on the opponents, Matthews has the ability to be a elite lock down defender. I think he would play for the current team at times because his defense is better than Booker's and Harrison's and he's not an offensive liability like Hawkins.

- Much better athlete than advertised. Matthews was everywhere. He stole one pass, went the length of the court, split the defense and dunked it as the defense was attempting to regroup. He also blocked two shots, one of which was on a double jump wherein he knocked the ball toward midcourt the start a fast break. He tracked one loose ball down to the corner where he went flying above the out of bounds line only to throw the ball back to a teammate to maintain the possession.

- He looks stronger than Liggins with the same type of length in terms of apparent wingspan. He's every bit of 6'6", as I ended up congratulating him after the game and saw how tall he is up close. He played through contact all night, and had a chip on his shoulder (the right kind). He's also smart. Although he had 3 turnovers, he didn't force the action in the second half when Providence went with a trapping zone and begged Matthews to pass it or shoot it. Matthews started the game 0-5 from the field, but ended up shooting 7-14 from the field, all but ending his three point shooting when it was clear he was not hitting. He had two and-ones, four midrange jumpers, and an incredible half-court bounce pass to a streaking teammate for the layup. Simply put, Matthews took over the second and third quarters and took the Providence crowd completely out of the game.





I kept track of Matthews' stats on my phone:

7-14 from the field (including 0-3 from three point range)
7-11 from the free throw line
3 steals
2 blocks
4 rebounds
2 assists
4 deflections



This post was edited on 1/23 6:39 PM by Son_Of_Saul
 
His ranking is about right from the game I watched on TV. He was up against other D1 recruits. Scored about 20, but turned it over a bunch and didn't shoot at a great clip. Not a OAD player. Not a great shooter. Above average D1 athlete. Ball IQ average. Plays hard on D. Very fair ranking.

Defense better than the Harrison's? That's funny.
 
Originally posted by Wernicke Korsakoff:
His ranking is about right from the game I watched on TV. He was up against other D1 recruits. Scored about 20, but turned it over a bunch and didn't shoot at a great clip. Not a OAD player. Not a great shooter. Above average D1 athlete. Ball IQ average. Plays hard on D. Very fair ranking.

Defense better than the Harrison's? That's funny.
Sounds about right to me too. I would say low 30 ranking.
 
Originally posted by Wernicke Korsakoff:
His ranking is about right from the game I watched on TV. He was up against other D1 recruits. Scored about 20, but turned it over a bunch and didn't shoot at a great clip. Not a OAD player. Not a great shooter. Above average D1 athlete. Ball IQ average. Plays hard on D. Very fair ranking.

Defense better than the Harrison's? That's funny.


Matthews is a legitimate defender. Probably would be a rotation guy right now.


As for the comment about D-One Competition, St. Rita's is a top 3 team in the state of Illinois. He faces elite competition almost weekly.











This post was edited on 1/21 6:15 AM by Son_Of_Saul
 
Thanks for the report. Matthews is a player that I am excited about. I have seen him play on TV one time and I was impressed. I think he will surprise quite a few fans next year.
 
Thanks for the Matthews breakdown. I think he's the kind of kid that will continue to get better. Looking forward to seeing him in blue and white next year.
 
Thanks for the report. Do have to keep in mind it was one showing, but sounds like he exceeded his ranking in this one.
 
Wow... thanks so much for the very detailed report! Sounds good to me... especially anything that would include the Liggins comparison on D.

I feel like I owe you a beer! I'll be down at the corner convenience store in about 10 minutes.
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Originally posted by Roundballaddict:
Thanks for the report. Do have to keep in mind it was one showing, but sounds like he exceeded his ranking in this one.
Considering he's been averaging close to 25 points per game since early January, I think we can take it as more than an anomaly. He's not a scorer, but he's better than advertised in that department.
 
Originally posted by dezyDeco:

Wow... thanks so much for the very detailed report! Sounds good to me... especially anything that would include the Liggins comparison on D.

I feel like I owe you a beer! I'll be down at the corner convenience store in about 10 minutes.
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Thanks! I try not to sensationalize a prospect when I see them live. I'm not a guru, but I do know enough about the game to understand a real player when I see one. Matthews owned the gym tonight, and he's been owning the gym most of the season. For a top 3 ranked team in the state of Illinois, that's pretty good stuff.
 
Thanks Saul and I agree with you. Charles is a legit top 20 player. He would be the best perimeter defender on our current team without a doubt. I almost have to wonder if the guy making the comment about him not being as good of a defender as the twins was being sarcastic? Hell they aren't even the best defenders of the current guards.

I think Matthews is a lot like Liggins except a little more offense but a little less defense. I'm glad to have him!
 
Awesome report, the thing about the report I am so pleased with is the fact that it seems to coincide with what I have seen and what the general consensus is about this kid, and that is great news, however it's comforting to have it confirmed by a wildcat fan first hand... Awesome analysis
 
Thanks for the report. The rep on Matthews is that he's a helluva defender, with a above average offensive game. That bodes well for UK next year too. I must admit I am loving the way this team plays D.
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Zay, the twins are great defenders this year. Booker struggled badly tonight and other times on D. Ulis is probably our best perimeter defender but can struggle with players driving on him, though not as bad as you would think with regards to his height.
 
Obviously I can't say 100% but I'd have to imagine he was saying defense better than the Harrison twins like of course he plays defense better than the Harrison twins, an inanimate object plays better defense than the twins.
 
Originally posted by miracle7s:
Obviously I can't say 100% but I'd have to imagine he was saying defense better than the Harrison twins like of course he plays defense better than the Harrison twins, an inanimate object plays better defense than the twins.
That's also how I'm deciding to take it; however, generally speaking, although it is true the twins aren't elite defenders, they're competent enough to have led UK to a Final Four last season and an 18-0 record so far this year with their defense. They aren't terrible defensively, and it's something to be said that Matthews is already better than either of them on the defensive side of the ball (in my opinion). This is the third time I've seen Matthews and he's one of the more active defenders I've seen this year. The best part about his defense is he doesn't play helter skelter; he's rather composed and picks his spots opportunistically.

If Booker returns next year, regardless of what Newman or Brown do, UK won't be lacking in elite perimeter defense. Booker, Matthews, Ulis, Hawkins, and presumably Poythress will lock down any collective perimeter. I haven't seen Briscoe live to make an assessment, but with so many higher level defenders surrounding him, all we need from him is adequate-level defense.

I'm excited about next season. Kentucky's going to be in a ton of games simply because of its defensive abilities. Add someone like Newman or Brown to the mix, and Kentucky suddenly has the whole package.
 
Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
Thanks Saul and I agree with you. Charles is a legit top 20 player. He would be the best perimeter defender on our current team without a doubt.

Im not bashing because I havent seen him play other than a couple of TV games, but do you think he would be a better on ball defender than Hawkins, Ulis?
 
Thanks for the detailed report, Saul, really appreciate that. I've only seen Matthews one time on TV and was pretty impressed with him that game so you are backing up what I already felt about him. Sounds like he shot the ball a bit better from outside the game I saw so I think he does have the potential to be a threat from there although probably not the go to guy from 3. His defense is what I'm most excited about.
 
Harrisons are better defenders than most folks give them credit for, go figure.


Did the OP notice Charles brother, he is a FR on that team
 
Nice report man. Matthews is under the radar a lot, but I trust Cal without question.
 
Originally posted by michaeluk26:
Zay, the twins are great defenders this year. Booker struggled badly tonight and other times on D. Ulis is probably our best perimeter defender but can struggle with players driving on him, though not as bad as you would think with regards to his height.
spot on Micheal . the twins are great defenders this year . Booker is at times very good and at times gets lost.Ulis is ulis - a bulldog but people can shoot over them.
 
Good to hear he's continuing to play well. He will definitely rise in the rankings. Hope his defensive abilities and intensity transfer to the college level, but I'm sure they will.

He has played with Tyler Ulis in the past, like Booker, so they will already have great chemistry from day 1.
 
Again we see with rankings as we do with who is being considered the NPOY or the "best player" in somone like Okafors case. Best is who can score the ball or more offensive driven and with Mathhews you have guys ahead of him like Kennard because he score the ball. Id love to see CM go head to head with Kennard....
 
Originally posted by AnarchoNeoLuddite:
Harrisons are better defenders than most folks give them credit for, go figure.


Did the OP notice Charles brother, he is a FR on that team
I'm fairly certain he played at the end when Rita was already up by +20. Rita has a ton of talent playing ahead of the young man.
 
Originally posted by AnarchoNeoLuddite:
Again we see with rankings as we do with who is being considered the NPOY or the "best player" in somone like Okafors case. Best is who can score the ball or more offensive driven and with Mathhews you have guys ahead of him like Kennard because he score the ball. Id love to see CM go head to head with Kennard....
I wonder if the gurus have watched Matthews since his return from injury. I honestly don't think many of them watch the regular season, due to travel difficulty, and focus primarily on AAU, where Matthews was sick and injured for a chunk of the summer.


Had they been watching the regular season, they would have seen Matthews light up top 2 in the state St. Joseph's with 32 points. They would have seen him take down then #1 in the state Simeon with 17 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 4 dimes. They would have seen his half-a-dozen 25+ point efforts since December, his much-improved midrange jumper, and his developing range from three.


Matthews is probably a top 30 national player. He's the best player in the state of Illinois, which includes guys like Jaylen Brunson, D.J. Williams, Glynn Watson, and Aaron Jordan.
 
I know it, we will see it and i imagine Charles will be that much better too when he is surrounded by studs.
 
Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:
Originally posted by AnarchoNeoLuddite:
Again we see with rankings as we do with who is being considered the NPOY or the "best player" in somone like Okafors case. Best is who can score the ball or more offensive driven and with Mathhews you have guys ahead of him like Kennard because he score the ball. Id love to see CM go head to head with Kennard....
I wonder if the gurus have watched Matthews since his return from injury. I honestly don't think many of them watch the regular season, due to travel difficulty, and focus primarily on AAU, where Matthews was sick and injured for a chunk of the summer.


Had they been watching the regular season, they would have seen Matthews light up top 2 in the state St. Joseph's with 32 points. They would have seen him take down then #1 in the state Simeon with 17 points, 13 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 4 dimes. They would have seen his half-a-dozen 25+ point efforts since December, his much-improved midrange jumper, and his developing range from three.


Matthews is probably a top 30 national player. He's the best player in the state of Illinois, which includes guys like Jaylen Brunson, D.J. Williams, Glynn Watson, and Aaron Jordan.



The Simeon game was nationally televised. I think they didn't have trouble watching it.
 
For those who say that he's ranked where he should be...

I personally haven't seen all that many of the top 50 players but I've seen Matthews a few times.

One thing is for sure, and that's that Matthews is an elite athlete with great measurable's and good skill.

Kids like Matthews can help a program win a LOT of games over a 3 or 4 year span!!
 
Thank for the report! This is one of the many reasons I love Rafters. I live in Olathe, Kansas and remember watching Willie in High School after he signed with UK and was about a #45 in the rankings. It is just a neat feeling to think about these young men in a UK uniform and playing at Rupp.

I remember thinking Willie looked lost rebounding. Even at 6'10" he wasn't even the top rebounder on the team and was the third leading scorer. He got gassed easy.

He was conscientious; he listened to the coach; he was unselfish; and worked hard when he was in the game.

Now he's a lottery pick.

Hope the best for Mathews as well.
 
I watched the Simeon game. He was definitely the best player on the floor, against Elite competition. Keep in mind 17 points may not be a huge point total, except in this game, it was a slow tempo, grind it out game and his team only scored 51. So he was the top target to stop by CS, and he still scored a third of their points. Lots of people will be proven wrong when all is said and done, Mr. Matthews will be a star, and the great thing is, he will be a little under the radar, which means we will get him for two years, maybe more !!
 
Originally posted by Wernicke Korsakoff:




The Simeon game was nationally televised. I think they didn't have trouble watching it.
That's probably the game where you made up your mind, right? When Matthews went for 17 points and 13 rebounds against a top 3 state of Illinois high school team (then #12 in the nation)? You do realize he was facing a 6'7", top 50-60 nationally ranked player in that game, right?

And your implications about Matthews not being an elite athlete are interesting. There's only two or three Jaylen Brown-type wings every year. If that's your basis for comparison, your list for elite athletes can only possibly run 7 or 8 deep, regardless of position.



This post was edited on 1/22 10:13 PM by Son_Of_Saul
 
If there are 2-3 Jaylen Brown type players every year, show me them, hell if we do not land him, lets sign his 1-2 clones. J/K, I get your point, if the knucklehead above is using Brown as a measuring stick, hell quite a few 5 stars will not be considered athletic. The guy watched maybe 2-3 minutes of Matthews game, and has no clue how versatile and mixed bag of weapons CM will bring to Lexington. Like I said above, I am glad he is flying a little under the radar. It will help with us keeping him 2-3 years. When, not if Matthews mid range jump shot gets better (he is still a little shy or lacks total confidence in it), look out. He is a potential lock down, elite defender, and his handle and jump shot is improving daily. Just the perfect kid for Cal. He is a guy that has a huge upside and has not hit his top level of potential yet. Very solid now, next year, sophomore year watch, he will be a very special player at UK. He is a MKG all around do what it takes to win type of guy, only difference is he has not had all the hype that MKG had, he has been in the shadow of the Elite guys ranked above him because of injuries and lack of pub because his team is not a traveling circus. He will be one of my favorite players for how ever long he is here. Somebody screen shot this and save it, he will develop into a lottery pick. Book it.
 
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