Judge Claudia Wilken has spoken on the revenue share issue.

[OliverSimmonstwinbrother]

Of the type some of you all are suggesting on these players?

Do you have to pay back money if you leave your current job? Are you only permitted moving jobs so many times? Do you have a salary cap on your earning potential?

Their are non competes on alot of jobs that limit who you can work and where for for a period of time after leaving your current job. For example my friend is a doctor and she wasn't allowed to work in any county her previous employer had a location for 1 year.

Also a lot of jobs do have 'salary' caps. It's known as top out pay.

 

[CELTICAT]

Good! Get it back to the way it used to be. Scholarships, walk-ons getting their playing time down the road, one transfer per student unless it's a family emergency, period. No stupid NIL pay.

literally none of that is ever coming back.

She's going to impose conditions that force universities to sell their teams to private equity. Most will just give up offering these sports altogether. We're not going to have the University of Kentucky Wildcats playing for NCAA championships. We're going to have the "Kroger Coal Power Kentucky Wildcats sponsored by Gatorade and brought to you by Netflix" playing for the Not NBA Pro league championship.

 

[bowfreak]

Of the type some of you all are suggesting on these players?

Do you have to pay back money if you leave your current job? Are you only permitted moving jobs so many times? Do you have a salary cap on your earning potential?

In some instances people have to pay back money if they leave their current job. For instance, there is a program that will pay for engineering student's education if they agree to work X amount of years for KY Transportation Cabinet. These are also common agreements for law enforcement and the medical profession. We pay your schooling, you agree to work for us for X amount of years.

People are not typically disallowed from moving jobs unless they have a prior contract/agreement.

Many people have a cap on their earning potential with their employer by means of a pay grade. If your pay grade maxes out at $75,000 you are going to have to move jobs to earn more. Also...sometimes people are limited from making a salary based on their performance. No matter how good you are, you make the same as someone else that is a poor performer. If you have this job with X amount of years of experience you make this amount. Teachers in KY are paid like this. At least they are where I live.

Bottom line....no employment system is the wild wild west other than current NIL fueled college athletics. There has to be some rules. I can promise you without rules eventually someone will step in and create them. There is a good chance that this person or body is not the ones you want making the rules.

 

[NociHTTP]

literally none of that is ever coming back.

She's going to impose conditions that force universities to sell their teams to private equity. Most will just give up offering these sports altogether. We're not going to have the University of Kentucky Wildcats playing for NCAA championships. We're going to have the "Kroger Coal Power Kentucky Wildcats sponsored by Gatorade and brought to you by Netflix" playing for the Not NBA Pro league championship.

If that happened I for sure would no longer follow collegiate sports. Either way, sounds like something else that I'll look back on some day and go "you remember when we used [to go] to events where they bounced a rubber ball, and girls jumped up and down with those things you find on the end of bicycle handlebars?"

 

[blue cincy]

Of the type some of you all are suggesting on these players?

Do you have to pay back money if you leave your current job? Are you only permitted moving jobs so many times? Do you have a salary cap on your earning potential?

If you were to receive pay for work yet to be performed then yes you would. Normal contract job for say Lexmark, if not an employee has specifications on payment and stipulations if you were to break a contract. So yes. If you are hourly then no as you are paid for work performed.

 

[blue cincy]

Most places don't pay you for the work until it is completed. Even contract work. You submit an invoice after the work is completed.

For instance, with these NIL deals, most players don't get paid until they do the appearace, commercial or whatever it is they are being paid for. At this point, it's not the universities paying the player.

I sale and quote jobs from 2k to 500k. We get all hardware and expenses up front on every job we quote. The only thing we bill after the fact is labor hours and taxes. We have been doing this for 30 plus years that way. Even customers that have been with our company for that entire time, any job over 1k we get all hardware money up front 100% before we order the first piece for the job.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Yes and no. The NFL doesn't control endorsements. The other controls they do have are based on collective bargaining. College players don't have a union...yet. The courts generally want the players treated like every other student.

A union could limit transfers but not NIL. Yep, the money is crazy and this judge is making it worse.

With the NFL I just meant with their caps and contracts and bastardizing it somehow.

 

[trueblujr2]

They need to limit transfers to 2 times.

They need to cap how much each player can make, say 2 mil.

They need to have parts of each payment based on performance since they're pros now. Plus can get bonus for titles, FFs etc...

Once you sign portal or Frosh that should be it, a contract that if voided by player university can gain percentage of players future earnings to where he leaves for to recoup what is lost, time, money, future players.

This isn't hard. Just common sense. Just like NFL etc there's rules. It shouldn't just protect players but universities paying out millions too. Let everyone earn but put a stop to bidding wars and crazy money to kids. Anything over 2 mil for 1 college season, 34-40 games for unproven freshman is crazy. Kids making 25k-50k per game or more is nuts.

Freshman should have a minimum pay scale like rookies in pro sports. A $500K cap or so. If they prove themselves after one year they can get a pay bump in year two.

 

[JonathanW]

So she wants the players to be paid much like professional players but she is insisting that players roster spots be guaranteed.

If I'm reading this right I'm now convinced she's an idiot. There's nothing quite like a one-sided solution to fix an opposite one-sided situation.

I think she is in this way over her head and frankly I don't think she has the authority for some of this. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. I hope I am.

Judge Threatens to Reject $2.8 Billion House v. NCAA Settlement

She said that the sides had 14 days to fix the deal or she would reject the settlement that would clear the way for colleges to pay athletes.

frontofficesports.com

One-sided solution was the first step to ruining MLB. Yes, you can have Free Agency, and contracts must be guaranteed.
SMH!!!

 

[Lempface]

In this thread: I don’t want change, I don’t care if the athletes were being exploited to the tunes of billions of dollars in return for a pittance. I wanna watch my college sports like God intended!

 

[Myth Buster51]

I’m among those hoping the tentative settlement blows up…

 

[blue cincy]

Right, you kind of have to have that to do the work, right? And the people paying for it technically own that stuff, correct? You're purchasing it on their behalf.

But you aren't paid for the actual performance (work) portion of the contract until each portion is complete, correct?

I doubt these athletes are getting paid upfront for supplies and equipment.

If the athlete has an agreement with a company and fails to fulfill his obligations to them, then obviously they have remedies for breach. As they should.

Contracts are contracts, be it employee contracts (which may stipulate that person X gets 1 mil up front, 100 k each month after till contract end). Not sure how they are writing these. I have had employee contracts that stated you get x up front and then salary for 12 months to complete job. If i had left that job, i would have had to paid back a portion of the upfront money as it was written that way in a contract.

 

[blue cincy]

Right, but you aren't limiting their earning potential, the amount of times they can change job sites, take their future earnings, or deny them a right to attempt to remedy any breach in a reasonable time.

You simply can recoup the money you paid them that they had yet to earn.

Again, actually I had a no compete, If I left that job in that year, I had to work outside my profession for 2 years before returning. So, yes no competes in employee contracts is fairly common. It can be limiting. Money in NFL and NBA are limiting but just on a way higher pay scale. You put franchise on a guy and it limits them and is hard for them to move as much.

 

[UKBlueBlood]

Why don’t we implement an annual draft while we’re at it? Then some random mid major that went 5-28 last year can have the #1 pick and draft the best freshman or best player of their desire in the portal.

No, this is not a serious post. But nothing is sensible these days in college athletics.