Joe Lunardi has Kentucky as a three-seed at the moment

[ukfan79]

There's just no way to even come close to satisfying everything. And that's what I don't like. I feel like sometimes they get choosy about what's important depending on the team.

The key point in all this: There's about 10-15 match-up rules, that must be taken into consideration first, which completely skew the Location Principle.

The matchup rules are pretty simple really and mostly involve conference opponents. That'll usually take care of itself because you won't normally have more than 2-3 from each conference in the top 16 seeds.

The other stuff doesn't even matter when it comes to regionals. They aren't going to place UK and Duke let say in different regions just because we played early. As long as we wouldn't meet until the Sweet 16. Same with Kansas. Or UCLA. Or Louisville.

 

[The_Answer1313]

That's why I always laugh tho when people say it's rigged. Because of the rules, because of location, there's only so many places they can really place teams.

I always follow those mock bracket things..........u know where the NCAA invites the media to go through the process. 95% of the time they are spending on coming up with the seed list......the actual bracketing is done in no time. I'm not sure how close that is to actually what happens but I'm willing to bet it is.

The fact that I can look at last years bracket and look at the seed list and understand WHY 95% of the teams went where they did, I think speaks volumes that the process is at least consistent.

 

[The_Answer1313]

I guess they only way to rig it would be at the beginning.......to rig the actual seed list. But when the seed list is being constructing, people still don't know where teams are going to be bracketed. They would have to go back.

That's why i find it extremely unlikely.

 

[The_Answer1313]

So to recap
First two rounds = where you go depends on where your at on the overall seed list. If your a 4 seed, all the first round sites close are likely gone which is why u see 4 seeds shipped to play first round games out West
Regionals = where you go depends where your at on that particular seed list

So if UK is the strongest 1,2,3,4,5 etc........they will end up in Louisville
If UK is the weakeset 1,2,3,4,5.......most likely they will not.

Which brings up the questions would UK rather be a weakest 1 or strongest 2, a weak 2 or a strong 3 etc etc.

 

[bucsrule8872]

So right now it looks like the 1 seeds are: MSU(Chicago), KU(Louisville), Maryland(Philly), and Oklahoma(Anaheim).

Following the S-curve (with Geography as a consideration), I think the two seeds are: Xavier(Louisville), Virginia(Philly), UNC(Chicago), and Arizona(Anaheim).

Then 3 seeds would be: Iowa St.(Chicago), UK(Philly), Duke(Lousiville), and UofL(Anaheim).

UK ends up in Philly because Duke and UofL can not end up in Philly or Chicago if UVA and UNC are the two seeds (same conference are not suppose to play until regional, if possible). So Duke ends up playing in Louisville. Even if we are the tops on the 3 line, it will be hard for us to get to Louisville in that scenario.

We need to end up as the top two seed and maybe we get to play at the Yum!

 

[The_Answer1313]

See that's exactly what I mean. It really depends on who else is on that line.

In that senario maybe we wouldn't.

But say it went UK, Iowa St, Duke and another team. Say UL dropped off and was a 4 seed. It could go:

UK (Louisville)
Iowa St. (Chicago)
Duke (Anaheim)
Other team (Philly)

 

[The_Answer1313]

Remember there's another rule that says teams can move up or down 1 seed if they run into bracketing problems. When the ACC has teams bunched like that, it might happen.

I haven't seen them move too many teams around. I think they did BYU a few years ago because BYU isn't allowed to play on Sundays so that narrows them down to two regions.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Remember there's another rule that says teams can move up or down 1 seed if they run into bracketing problems. When the ACC has teams bunched like that, it might happen.

I haven't seen them move too many teams around. I think they did BYU a few years ago because BYU isn't allowed to play on Sundays so that narrows them down to two regions.

Yep. Happened to us in 2011. UK would have been a 3 seed and was moved down to a 4 for some reason, IIRC. Pretty sure that was the case.

The committee never does us any favors. It is very doubtful that we get to play in the Chicken Bucket if we are a 3 seed or lower. Especially considering how our fans travel. Economics plays a role.

 

[ukfan79]

Yep. Happened to us in 2011. UK would have been a 3 seed and was moved down to a 4 for some reason, IIRC. Pretty sure that was the case.

The committee never does us any favors. It is very doubtful that we get to play in the Chicken Bucket if we are a 3 seed or lower. Especially considering how our fans travel. Economics plays a role.

Most of these regionals are already sold out or very close to it. How the fans travel is irrelevant. If we were shipped to Anaheim we wouldn't have very many fans going.

 

[ukfan79]

Philly, Louisville & Chicago are completely sold out already. Anaheim probably has 1,000-2,000 upper endzone seats left.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Philly, Louisville & Chicago are completely sold out already. Anaheim probably has 1,000-2,000 upper endzone seats left.

Ugh really?


Damn in 2012 I waited till December and got good seats at YUM

 

[ukfan79]

Ugh really?


Damn in 2012 I waited till December and got good seats at YUM

I bought mine in October when they went on sale and could only get upper level endzone seats. Hopefully UK ends up there or the StubHub market will be really saturated. That'd be good news for the fans of whichever 4 teams did make it though.

 

[The_Answer1313]

I'm always iffy on buying them immediately since you never know where UK will end up.

Tho I guess it's not hard to sell if they ended elsewhere.

 

[Dakota25]

Still lots of basketball to be played. With the way uk has been playing a three seed would be a gift. As of right now I think UK will lose around ten games which will be in the six to eight seed range.

 

[machine7]

As much as I would love to see Xavier as a two seed, my heart knows 18 games on a round robin schedule in the Big East is going to drop X a few spots with a freshman point guard, Edmond Sumner. 14-4 or 13-5 in conference play would be a solid effort based on how solid Butler, Nova, Providence, and when you get Geogetown on a good night, ask Syracuse. Xavier at Butler Feb 13 in Hinkle will be a WAR. I'm going.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Still lots of basketball to be played. With the way uk has been playing a three seed would be a gift. As of right now I think UK will lose around ten games which will be in the six to eight seed range.

I have a hard time thinking we drop that low. We were an 8 seed two years ago tho so who knows but I'm thinking 3-5 range. This team isn't as bad as people make them out to be