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Jayson Tatum Picking Between UK, Duke, UNC, and St. Louis within 2 Weeks

There was the Corey Maggette thing. He basically did what Marcus Camby did and the NCAA did nothing. The school had nothing to do with it though. K flat out said "we'll accept whatever the NCAA decides." And they just didn't do anything. Always pissed me off but it's not like Duke did anything wrong or tried to cover it up.
Calipari was correctly found innocent in Camby's scandal. Camby never consulted Calipari. If Maggette did what he did without consulting Krzyzewski, then everyone who gets their underwear in a wad when Camby and Rose come up should judge Krzyzewski by the same standard.
 
Obviously, you believe what you believe, even if there is no evidence to support it. But I have never seen anything to support what you are saying about Duke. When fans of other schools say this same kind of trash about Calipari without evidence, everyone here calls them on it. I believe Calipari and Krzyzewski are both clean, and the 2 best coaches in college basketball. Krzyzewski succeeds for the same reasons Calipari succeeds.

And you keep questioning if Duke gets special treatment, and when people give you articles, not read them. You asked, you received. Do what you will with it. I'm sure we'll reconvene in a few months over the same topic.
 
Evidence? I don't think there is any comparison between UNC and Duke, and I don't see a shred of evidence anywhere to support what you are saying. UNC has always been a blatant cheater. Duke had never been.


Nothing about grade changes/fake classes, like UNC...

but you could look into the Maggette $$$ from agents/Piggie.

And the Lance Thomas jewelry purchase.

You are completely unfamiliar?
 
BTW, I don't think Coach K is any more clean or dirty than any other coach. He's NOT some higher-ground, basketball moral compass though. To assume he'd never do wrong is idiotic. Yet, I don't think he's nefarious, nor a bad guy. But for whatever reason, Duke gets their treatment that has been talked about by every sports fan, documentary, writer, and even casual sports fan. Can't discount that.. Can't look at their bracket and say "YUP, NOTHING ILL-ADVISED HERE!!".
 
I'm not scared of Duke at all. Bring'm on. They were fortunate to avoid UK for both of their recent titles.
but we still manage to destroy the team that beat you I'm 2010 and beat the only team to beat u this year not just once but twice! And once at Kohl
 
but we still manage to destroy the team that beat you I'm 2010 and beat the only team to beat u this year not just once but twice! And once at Kohl

Oh snap. That's like me saying we beat Notre Dame, a team that beat Puke twice. I just won the internets!
 
I don't like having to rely on Hawkins. The rest of the roster looks good

Hawkins would not play any more on that team than he will this season. He and Willis are practice players and spot duty guys, nothing more most likely, for their careers at UK.

If that is our team in 2016-17:

Starters
G Ulis- runs the team.
G Simmons- stud, does a little bit of everything.
G Monk- superstar shooter/scorer.
F Lee- rebounds/defends.
F Ayton- leading scorer, possible NPOY.

Key Reserves
G Matthews- defends, slasher.
G Mulder- shooter/scorer off the bench.
F Wynyard- rebounder/banger off the bench.

Hawkins and Willis play sparingly.
 
Hawkins would not play any more on that team than he will this season. He and Willis are practice players and spot duty guys, nothing more most likely, for their careers at UK.

If that is our team in 2016-17:

Starters
G Ulis- runs the team.
G Simmons- stud, does a little bit of everything.
G Monk- superstar shooter/scorer.
F Lee- rebounds/defends.
F Ayton- leading scorer, possible NPOY.

Key Reserves
G Matthews- defends, slasher.
G Mulder- shooter/scorer off the bench.
F Wynyard- rebounder/banger off the bench.

Hawkins and Willis play sparingly.

That looks like a final 4 team next season, you guys do realize if Duke gets Giles,Tatum and Jackson the Rat will get another championship, those 3 guys are studs. Better pray the heels get Giles.
 
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That looks like a final 4 team next season, you guys do realize if Duke gets Giles,Tatum and Jackson the Rat will get another championship, those 3 guys are studs. Better pray the heels get Giles.

Because a core of freshman is always a sure thing.
 
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haha, great pic. my favorite movie. i still can't believe sondra locke didn't win best actress that year. i guess it's fitting that a mouskateer would play ratboy.
 
That looks like a final 4 team next season, you guys do realize if Duke gets Giles,Tatum and Jackson the Rat will get another championship, those 3 guys are studs. Better pray the heels get Giles.

No title is guaranteed no matter who you get or who your coach is.

Remember that Coach K has as many 1st round losses as championships in the last six seasons and he was not lacking talent those years.

Coach K has had arguably the most talented roster on several occasions and failed to win the title (98, 99, 02 come to mind).

Winning six in a row is hard, even with the most talent and the best coach.

So don't hand them the title just yet.
 
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No title is guaranteed no matter who you get or who your coach is.

Remember that Coach K has as many 1st round losses as championships in the last six seasons and he was not lacking talent those years.

Coach K has had arguably the most talented roster on several occasions and failed to win the title (98, 99, 02 come to mind).

Winning six in a row is hard, even with the most talent and the best coach.

So don't hand them the title just yet.

Lots of Duke success is determined by their f'ing cakewalk to the final four. They are usually in the best lane in the final four, and the best rested.

If Duke gets another unearned bracket, it's time coaches start calling the issue out.
 
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That looks like a final 4 team next season, you guys do realize if Duke gets Giles,Tatum and Jackson the Rat will get another championship, those 3 guys are studs. Better pray the heels get Giles.

Since when has Duke been involved, let alone favored for Jackson?
 
I'm not sure why a coach hasn't stepped up yet. Maybe because it's Coach K? A lot of people owe their careers to him and his lineage has deep roots. But everyone knows what happens year after year. Another reason I'm thankful he can't coach that much longer. Because FWIW, without Coach K, WVU gets the #1 seed in 2010 (or is in Duke's bracket), We don't face Wisconsin until the title game in 2015, etc. It's a two-way street: When Duke starts getting the brackets they deserve, so do the 6 or 7 top teams, which includes us 80% of the time.
 
I'll be pissed if we don't get one of Jackson or Tatum. I would've settled for VJ King but, well you know where he went.
 
I'm not going to bitch and moan, but Duke was very fortunate in '10 and '15.

We owe'm a couple.
 
I'm not sure why a coach hasn't stepped up yet. Maybe because it's Coach K? A lot of people owe their careers to him and his lineage has deep roots. But everyone knows what happens year after year. Another reason I'm thankful he can't coach that much longer. Because FWIW, without Coach K, WVU gets the #1 seed in 2010 (or is in Duke's bracket), We don't face Wisconsin until the title game in 2015, etc. It's a two-way street: When Duke starts getting the brackets they deserve, so do the 6 or 7 top teams, which includes us 80% of the time.

Any coach that complains about how easy someone else's bracket is comes off like a whiner, so no coach is going to mention it.

Most of the media guys are former Dukies or wish they were, so they won't mention it.

That leaves the fans and nobody is going to listen to fans, the committee just blows it off as UK or UNC fans just being jealous of Duke and K.

So we deal with it. It makes the Lehigh and Mercer upsets even more enjoyable to me.
 
I'm not sure why a coach hasn't stepped up yet. Maybe because it's Coach K? A lot of people owe their careers to him and his lineage has deep roots. But everyone knows what happens year after year. Another reason I'm thankful he can't coach that much longer. Because FWIW, without Coach K, WVU gets the #1 seed in 2010 (or is in Duke's bracket), We don't face Wisconsin until the title game in 2015, etc. It's a two-way street: When Duke starts getting the brackets they deserve, so do the 6 or 7 top teams, which includes us 80% of the time.

I think the reason has a lot to do with time. He's been the man in charge for so long, it's natural for people to want to respect it and appear to not come across as envious and jealous. It's the typical high road argument.

The thing is you cannot just allow the guy to play by other sets of rules. Has anyone explained yet how regions were designed by location, except for Duke? Is that just another conspiracy? What happened there? How about all these eligibility cases that strict liability didn't apply? Has it even been explained?

If coach K was as good of an overall coach as Cal was in reality, he would probably have 7 or 8 championships by now with his unearned tournament wins and 400 years on the job. With the competition being so close in the elite eight on, all it takes is a slight advantage and you get so many odds. You give Calipari all those favors/years and it's over. He's a defensive minded guy so I have no doubt in believe it.

There's been years where Duke shot more free throws at home than any team in America. I remember the Parrish article on it. It was something like 2.5 more free throws per game at home than anyone, and they were somewhat of a three point shooting team lol. I mean, it's no conspiracy.
 
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I think the reason has a lot to do with time. He's been the man in charge for so long, it's natural for people to want to respect it and appear to not come across as envious and jealous. It's the typical high road argument.

The thing is you cannot just allow the guy to play by other sets of rules. Has anyone explained yet how regions were designed by location, except for Duke? Is that just another conspiracy? What happened there? How about all these eligibility cases that strict liability didn't apply? Has it even been explained?

If coach K was as good of an overall coach as Cal was in reality, he would probably have 7 or 8 championships by now with his unearned tournament wins. With the competition being so close in the elite eight on, all it takes is a slight advantage and you get so many odds. You give Calipari all those favors/years and it's over. He's a defensive minded guy so I have no doubt in believe it.

There's been years where Duke shot more free throws at home than any team in America. I remember the Parrish article on it. It was something like 2.5 more free throws per game at home than anyone, and they were somewhat of a three point shooting team lol. I mean, it's no conspiracy.

You truly have no idea how dumb and pathetic you look typing something like this. Holy lord... probably the biggest case of sour grapes I have ever seen.

You do realize that if I came up with the same sort of bullshit rationalization about Kentucky, that you'd simply laugh it off and call me a "hater?" But when it comes to Duke, it's obvious there's a grand conspiracy with the sole intention to hand Duke titles. Are you seriously this dumb, man? Based on your posts on this board, unfortunately I think so....
 
I hate Duke just as much as anyone, bottom-line they were the best team last season, played in the best conf . Got to give them credit.

You UNC-Duke guys stick up for each other all the time so save me the "hate Duke as much as anyone" crap. That's all you do here is make pro-Duke posts.

They were not the best team last season.
 
You UNC-Duke guys stick up for each other all the time so save me the "hate Duke as much as anyone" crap. That's all you do here is make pro-Duke posts.

They were not the best team last season.

Yea that overblown "I hate Duke as much as anyone" bs. I remember when the ACC was about to explode during conference shifts and Duke was ishing in their pants because without UNC tagging them along, there's no reason for a major conference to keep them with their football being so putrid and their TV market essentially ate up already.

North Carolina or at least the media made it clear they do nothing without Duke. They are in the shifts together.

North Carolina has sacrificed itself for that stupid rivalry that isn't even the 3rd best rivalry in college basketball imo. Half of the fans from the rivalry aren't even from North Carolina, lol. A third of those aren't from America.
 
I hate Duke just as much as anyone, bottom-line they were the best team last season, played in the best conf . Got to give them credit.

btw, your little vote for Calipari to be a 1 was quite telling. Why don't you stay the F*&^ out of UK fan polls in the future if you wanna hang around.
 
Which teams were playing better than Duke during the tourney?

Of the four top contenders, who had an easier road than Duke?

Arizona- Wisky, UK, Duke
Wisconsin- Arizona, UK, Duke
UK- ND, Wisky, Duke
Duke- Gonzaga, Michigan State, Wisconsin

Duke got a fortunate road, a fortunate F4 opponent and then drew the team they matched up with best out of the other 3 contenders (see earlier December matchup).
 
I really can't wait until K retires and the Devils start to decline.

I predict that K will retire in the next four or five seasons, still run the program and Hurley or whoever (former K player) takes over and has some immediate success (maybe even win a piggy back title with K's guys a la Tubby and Ollie) then the program starts to decline as K starts to move away from it, then eventually after four or five mediocre seasons the Dukies turn on the new coach and he steps down or is fired.

It's hard to follow a legend. It's an albatross that will hang around every coach that will coach Duke for the next twenty years or more.
 
You truly have no idea how dumb and pathetic you look typing something like this. Holy lord... probably the biggest case of sour grapes I have ever seen.

You do realize that if I came up with the same sort of bullshit rationalization about Kentucky, that you'd simply laugh it off and call me a "hater?" But when it comes to Duke, it's obvious there's a grand conspiracy with the sole intention to hand Duke titles. Are you seriously this dumb, man? Based on your posts on this board, unfortunately I think so....

Here we go another foreign exchange student here to express his two year fandom using faux outrage.
 
Doesn't matter if K retires, the fix is in. Duke will always get favoritism from here on out.

The only way to get rid of the Duke bias that is ruining college basketball is the total disbandment of the NCAA.

Until then, expect Duke to keep whistling by the grave yard.
 
Here we go another foreign exchange student here to express his two year fandom using faux outrage.

Duke's favoratism is well known and factual. I don't have to try and justify it to a bandwagon Duke fan.
 
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Doesn't matter if K retires, the fix is in. Duke will always get favoritism from here on out.

The only way to get rid of the Duke bias that is ruining college basketball is the total disbandment of the NCAA.

Until then, expect Duke to keep whistling by the grave yard.

Be careful Nick Horvath is on the loose. [laughing]
 
I hate Duke just as much as anyone, bottom-line they were the best team last season, played in the best conf . Got to give them credit.


No.

On one side of the bracket there was UK, AZ, and Wisconsin... 3 of the 4 teams most considered to be the best in the NCAA all season long. Throw in ND, who was a very good team that also happened to be the Hot Team-Hitting Their Stride At The Right Time.

On the other side was Dook, 1 of the 4 best teams... with Virginia, who was legit, but lost their luster due to a key injury... Villanova, from whatever was left of the watered-down Big East... and Gonzaga, the Pretender.

Which path should the consensus #1 team in the land, overall #1 NCAAT seed, have received?
 
Be careful Nick Horvath is on the loose. [laughing]


Yeah, and it's that kind of idiocy that is ruining this country.

I go outside everyday and run into a dumbass Nick Horvath type of person. You can't escape their stupidity. And I am often left wondering how they got to be so stupid. Then it hits me, people as stupid as Nick Whorebath don't realize they're stupid. That's the problem.
 
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Yeah, and it's that kind of idiocy that is ruining this country.

I go outside everyday and run into a dumbass Nick Horvath type of person. You can't escape their stupidity. And I am often left wondering how they got to be so stupid. Then it hits me, people as stupid as Nick Whorebath don't realize they're stupid. That's the problem.
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Doesn't matter if K retires, the fix is in. Duke will always get favoritism from here on out.

The only way to get rid of the Duke bias that is ruining college basketball is the total disbandment of the NCAA.

Until then, expect Duke to keep whistling by the grave yard.

Dude the Warnos picture is killing me. Everytime I see it I just laugh.

You can't change it unless you go with the clown killer.
 
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