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Javon Baker

Given some of the kids they took a chance on, this speaks volumes. Must've been alot
Whatever the baggage was Justin reported they say it wouldn't be good to bring into the program and that they would need bama to cooperate for him to come here. Not sure what they would need to do but that relationship is broken.
 
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Whatever the baggage was Justin reported they say it wouldn't be good to bring into the program and that they would need bama to cooperate for him to come here. Not sure what they would need to do but that relationship is broken.

UF was after him until they supposedly saw him run a 40. UK would t want him if he wasn't a take for UF. Sounds like a kid overestimating his value and it bit him.
 
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What could they have possibly found out for this to happen? If he can get into Maryland he can get in to UK.
 
Judging by those comments and his grammar, I'm guessing there was compliance issues.

Being young is part of growing in life…but the constant “Constant God has bigger plans” stuff gets old.

Like God is really part of a direction that you’ve apparently a no take for Stoops/UK due to some stuff in your history…and you’re posting a pic of you in some sort of weird mask as well

I’m sure God is planning things for you….maybe needs to start with changing your heart
 
Sucks he didn't work out. Always thought he was more an insurance policy, or a stopgap experienced WR to depend on while very talented young guys get up to speed.

Now more than ever we will need Key, Crowdus, Lewis to be performing as SEC starting wide recievers. And quality snaps from Magwood & Barion Brown. We can't go through another season with our passing game being throw to a Robinson 150 times.
 
That’s what I would have thought to, I love Kentucky but it’s not the hardest school in the world to get into

Kentucky IS a tough school to get your credits to transfer into. It's not that it is hard to get into, but their classes are set up differently than what you would usually see across the US. Those slight differences can mean a loss of credits from other schools if you transfer in, while schools to which you transfer aren't going to nickel and dime you as a student. It's a money grab.

No reason why a class someone aces at Northwestern U shouldn't transfer to UK, but I've seen them disallowed before. It's ridiculous

It's a bllsht way to run your university, but they have been that way for at least 20+ years.
 
Kentucky IS a tough school to get your credits to transfer into. It's not that it is hard to get into, but their classes are set up differently than what you would usually see across the US. Those slight differences can mean a loss of credits from other schools if you transfer in, while schools to which you transfer aren't going to nickel and dime you as a student. It's a money grab.

No reason why a class someone aces at Northwestern U shouldn't transfer to UK, but I've seen them disallowed before. It's ridiculous

It's a bllsht way to run your university, but they have been that way for at least 20+ years.

Well, if that’s that the case, it’s really hard to believe that happens. It’s even more hard to believe when you’re talking about a scholarship athlete.

I just don’t transfer credits are the reason here. I mean that’s so stupid.

I also don’t really believe what MJ said on the radio this morning - we pulled the offer. We didn’t want him.

All that stuff is baffling to me. You do whatever.it.takes. Period.

Same with this CRod whatever stuff. Whatever it takes and more!
 
I guess he's scared he can't beat out Key, I'd rather have the home town kid, we know he will play with more heart.
Or maybe we had to turn him down to protect our squeaky clean image, maybe he was caught jaywalking..
 
Kentucky IS a tough school to get your credits to transfer into. It's not that it is hard to get into, but their classes are set up differently than what you would usually see across the US. Those slight differences can mean a loss of credits from other schools if you transfer in, while schools to which you transfer aren't going to nickel and dime you as a student. It's a money grab.

No reason why a class someone aces at Northwestern U shouldn't transfer to UK, but I've seen them disallowed before. It's ridiculous

It's a bllsht way to run your university, but they have been that way for at least 20+ years.
Maybe longer than that. I transferred in 60 years ag and lost some credits. And that was with a transfer record of straight A's, but it was a minor college I transferred from.
 
Well, if that’s that the case, it’s really hard to believe that happens. It’s even more hard to believe when you’re talking about a scholarship athlete.

I just don’t transfer credits are the reason here. I mean that’s so stupid.

I also don’t really believe what MJ said on the radio this morning - we pulled the offer. We didn’t want him.

All that stuff is baffling to me. You do whatever.it.takes. Period.

Same with this CRod whatever stuff. Whatever it takes and more!
Sometimes UK is very stupid. Besides the athletic department has to pay full out of state tuition for out of state athletes, most of our players. Not a problem now (thanks SEC) but when we were losing 20,000 season ticket holders in Football it was. Not to mention the $60,000,000 extortion to get the NECESSARY loan to upgrade Commonwealth.
 
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Not to be critical but shouldn’t he be notified of this before the press? Seems odd
Why would you not be critical. I'm sure they deserve it. Bama doesn't want him here but he was fine at Bama.

SCREW Bama.
 
Kentucky IS a tough school to get your credits to transfer into. It's not that it is hard to get into, but their classes are set up differently than what you would usually see across the US. Those slight differences can mean a loss of credits from other schools if you transfer in, while schools to which you transfer aren't going to nickel and dime you as a student. It's a money grab.

No reason why a class someone aces at Northwestern U shouldn't transfer to UK, but I've seen them disallowed before. It's ridiculous

It's a bllsht way to run your university, but they have been that way for at least 20+ years.
I see I went to Kentucky straight out of high school so i didn’t have to go through the transferring of credits process, but Kentucky should definitely make the process easier, transferring is already headache, I get not not be able to take every credit from Alabama but Kentucky should take a lot of them. Alabama is probably a better academic school than Kentucky anyways
 
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I know that 35 years ago, students trying to transfer credits from Centre College had a Hell of a time doing so, one student staying at Centre after attempting a transfer to UK.
 
All that stuff is baffling to me. You do whatever.it.takes. Period.

Same with this CRod whatever stuff. Whatever it takes and more!
Culture and good locker room character and family atmosphere is a very important part of how Stoops has built what he has here. If they found out some stuff about the guy where he wouldn't be a good fit culturally I completely understand cutting him lose.
 
Culture and good locker room character and family atmosphere is a very important part of how Stoops has built what he has here. If they found out some stuff about the guy where he wouldn't be a good fit culturally I completely understand cutting him lose.
Yes, apparently he had two things going against him, one academic and the other non-academic. Kentucky decided it wasn't worth the headache. Time to move on.
 
Not a lot of great news for the football cats. What is going on?

The good news is we have a real program with depth, not necessarily at WR however. Still, stuff like this will not help us reach our goal.
There is good athletic depth at wide receiver, but no SEC playing experience. The freshmen have talent but you can't assume anything from true freshmen until they get quality time in the program. We will need Tayvion Robinson, DeMarcus Harris, and Chris Lewis to step up and produce. Another thing, Keaton Upshaw and Izayah Cummings are downfield receivers despite being listed as tight ends. Either can play in the slot, and I think Upshaw could split wide in some sets. Scangerello will have to be innovative. I would not be surprised if Stoops takes a late transfer out of the portal.
 
There is good athletic depth at wide receiver, but no SEC playing experience. The freshmen have talent but you can't assume anything from true freshmen until they get quality time in the program. We will need Tayvion Robinson, DeMarcus Harris, and Chris Lewis to step up and produce. Another thing, Keaton Upshaw and Izayah Cummings are downfield receivers despite being listed as tight ends. Either can play in the slot, and I think Upshaw could split wide in some sets. Scangerello will have to be innovative. I would not be surprised if Stoops takes a late transfer out of the portal.
If he’s running the same offense as the Niners, and I assume it will be close, creativity is the name of the game. The umpteenth thread on the lack of TE usage will no longer be needed. Some of the quick receivers will get some looks behind the LOS too. It should be a fun offense to watch but not defend.
 
If he’s running the same offense as the Niners, and I assume it will be close, creativity is the name of the game. The umpteenth thread on the lack of TE usage will no longer be needed. Some of the quick receivers will get some looks behind the LOS too. It should be a fun offense to watch but not defend.
My man Keaton gonna eat up some defenses this fall. I literally can’t wait. Was so pissed when he got hurt last year. Imagine having him last year with WR?
 
My man Keaton gonna eat up some defenses this fall. I literally can’t wait. Was so pissed when he got hurt last year. Imagine having him last year with WR?
When you have a situation like this, where a potentially important player (Baker) is suddenly unavailable, an opportunity is created and someone else has to step up. We know that Dane Key and Barion Brown will eventually be good players, but we also know true freshmen need time to learn and contribute in the SEC. While this plays out, Scangarello has to make do with the players he has. Keaton Upshaw and Izayah Cummings are multiple-role receivers who can get downfield from the slot and maybe even from "trips" sets. While Scangarello is developing new players, he will have Upshaw and Cummings available to plug holes in the receiving room. Both are bound to have big roles, but Upshaw is a real difference maker if fully recovered.
 
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Like I said in another transfer thread last year - UK absolutely needs to get the academic credit transfer stuff ironed out. It's caused issues with way too many transfers. Going to cost us someone we want if it hasn't already. Inexcusable
 
Like I said in another transfer thread last year - UK absolutely needs to get the academic credit transfer stuff ironed out. It's caused issues with way too many transfers. Going to cost us someone we want if it hasn't already. Inexcusable
Kentucky is accepting 7 inbound football transfers this year and also took 7 others last year. Our basketball and baseball teams are also taking transfers every year. As it should be, the application is the applicant's responsibility. The staff can help, but they cannot create an application for a student. If the application is in order, the applicant gets into school. Kentucky is neither the hardest nor the easiest SEC school to get into. If a player does not qualify to enroll, that's how it goes. Every university has enrollment standards, and every university has to reject some applicants. This is not an athletics problem, and it cannot be solved by the athletics department.

Over the years, several athletes have been admitted to Kentucky after failing to get into Vandy.
 
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Kentucky is accepting 7 inbound football transfers this year and also took 7 others last year. Our basketball and baseball teams are also taking transfers every year. As it should be, the application is the applicant's responsibility. The staff can help, but they cannot create an application for a student. If the application is in order, the applicant gets into school. Kentucky is neither the hardest nor the easiest SEC school to get into. If a player does not qualify to enroll, that's how it goes. Every university has enrollment standards, and every university has to reject some applicants. This is not an athletics problem, and it cannot be solved by the athletics department.

Over the years, several athletes have been admitted to Kentucky after failing to get into Vandy.
So the school he ends up at must be just above the high school level, right? It will be interesting to see where he lands.

But they will have a helluva football team.
 
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Kentucky is accepting 7 inbound football transfers this year and also took 7 others last year. Our basketball and baseball teams are also taking transfers every year. As it should be, the application is the applicant's responsibility. The staff can help, but they cannot create an application for a student. If the application is in order, the applicant gets into school. Kentucky is neither the hardest nor the easiest SEC school to get into. If a player does not qualify to enroll, that's how it goes. Every university has enrollment standards, and every university has to reject some applicants. This is not an athletics problem, and it cannot be solved by the athletics department.

Over the years, several athletes have been admitted to Kentucky after failing to get into Vandy.

Admitted and accepting transfer credits can be two different things. I know from personal experience UK is finicky in accepting transfer classes.

I also know from personal experience the athletic department has compliance officers that assist in applying and working through eligibility/clearing house issues; one would assume that deals with transfers as well.

As another poster said, staff chose to decommit the player and that's fine by me. But it shouldn't be such a struggle to get kids transferred in; and that doesn't necessarily mean just athletes.
 
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He’s not a 4.8 forty guy

I don't know wathe rely runs, but more th 1 site is reporting the 4.8 40. If that is true, alone with his attitude it's a no Brainerd to padding on him. Literally 100's of guys that can produce yhat.
 
I don't know wathe rely runs, but more th 1 site is reporting the 4.8 40. If that is true, alone with his attitude it's a no Brainerd to padding on him. Literally 100's of guys that can produce yhat.
4.8 is slow. Like really slow. I ran faster than that. It can be hard to judge by recruiting videos but Baker does move really well. Not a track star by any means but didn't look slow either. I would estimate him in the 4.5 range. UK backing off him sounds like it had nothing to do with his ability. There were 3 factors First it sounds like he was going to be a handful academically. Second there were rumors of off field stuff that they would have to work with him on. The 3rd factor was the impressive play in spring by Dane Key. It sounds like once the staff saw Key the no longer had the tolerance for Baker's baggage.
 
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4.8 is slow. Like really slow. I ran faster than that. It can be hard to judge by recruiting videos but Baker does move really well. Not a track star by any means but didn't look slow either. I would estimate him in the 4.5 range. UK backing off him sounds like it had nothing to do with his ability. There were 3 factors First it sounds like he was going to be a handful academically. Second there were rumors of off field stuff that they would have to work with him on. The 3rd factor was the impressive play in spring by Dane Key. It sounds like once the staff saw Key the no longer had the tolerance for Baker's baggage.
I think this nails it.

- It stinks he flamed out...as we need depth at the WR spot and Baker would have easily be in the mix for a starting outside WR spot...worst case he'd be in the rotation.
- I do think Dane Key showing he's not a typical Fr...so that take pressure off the WR hole that Baker leaves. I'd also argue assuming Barion Brown makes it to campus....those 2 alone are guys we feel confident to get 3-5 catches a game. Then Crowdus back, Chris Lewis looked capable in spring, etc...I'd say where we are at in WR today vs. a year ago is much better.
- The last thing...is Upshaw at TE along with Cummings, Bates, Dingle....I think we know more of the passing load will go to the TE room this year as well.
 
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