Jason Hatcher?

[hmt5000]

You're a smarter man than me, but two games for missing study hall seems like a lot.

i would say grades where the issue and "taking care of academic issues" yesterday was probably a necessity to be eligible at all. so the 2 games would be for putting himself in that predicament in the first place. miss study hall and get behind in a class that requires you to do "extra" work to get a passing grade is the kind of thing that should not happen with the support system these kids have.... of course, we are all just guessing.

 

[Blue Decade]

per KSR. Violation of team rules. My guess would be weed but that's pure conjecture.

Probably. In any case, this team is counting on Hatcher and it's time for him to produce. If he does, he can provide a key element needed by our defense. If he doesn't, then another player will take his playing time. Stoops is firing a shot across Jason's bow with the suspension, but it hurts our team and our season for him to miss the South Carolina game. So I would guess this is Jason's final warning. But like you say, that's conjecture.

 

[WildCard]

You're a smarter man than me, but two games for missing study hall seems like a lot.

i would say grades where the issue and "taking care of academic issues" yesterday was probably a necessity to be eligible at all. so the 2 games would be for putting himself in that predicament in the first place. miss study hall and get behind in a class that requires you to do "extra" work to get a passing grade is the kind of thing that should not happen with the support system these kids have.... of course, we are all just guessing.

Gotta agree with jrockets on this one. And if Richt suspends kid for missing a study hall (that and nothing more) that seems pretty harsh to me.

Every coach has his own rules but, by and large, it seems penalties for "violation of team rules" are much like our legal system of classifying crimes (and respective punishment) as misdemeanors and felonies. You run steps, do 5:00 AM conditioning runs for "team misdemeanors" like cutting a class or being late for a team meeting. Game suspensions are generally reserved for the "felony violations".

Since all summer classes have ended I'm not sure there is any valid academic work that could be done now to salvage eligibility for the fall semester. Coaches very seldom address the specifics of a suspension other than a "violation of team rules". Sometimes you will see an "in season" suspension levied to enforce a more serious attitude about on going classwork but it is a bit early to think that is the issue. FWIW, there is a lengthy thread on HOB about this suspension and the "consensus" is that it had little, if anything, to do with studies.

Peace

 

[TeoJ]

A whole lot of people posting thinking what it could be.A lot of people think to much,he's suspended for two games does it really matter what he did (or did not do)?

 

[southindycat]

So, he's not going to dress for the home opener in The New CWS, or travel Week 2 as we open SEC play on the road... hope he gets
his gear packed tighter after this. What a way to start his season.

 

[hmt5000]

if it was a failed test then they would of known before now and stoops left a suspension open yesterday but made it clear that it was still in limbo. doesn't ring as a failed drug test to me but idk. im just going by the fact that stoops said he had some academic stuff he had to take care of and then the next day he got 2 games... just sounds like he did his thing yesterday and got his grades from the makeup work today and then the decision was made for 2 games. just dont see the need to suggest a suspension might be coming from a drug test. you piss in a cup and the test comes back and your good or suspended... no need to wait for something.

 

[WildCard]

if it was a failed test then they would of known before now and stoops left a suspension open yesterday but made it clear that it was still in limbo. doesn't ring as a failed drug test to me but idk. im just going by the fact that stoops said he had some academic stuff he had to take care of and then the next day he got 2 games... just sounds like he did his thing yesterday and got his grades from the makeup work today and then the decision was made for 2 games. just dont see the need to suggest a suspension might be coming from a drug test. you piss in a cup and the test comes back and your good or suspended... no need to wait for something.

Just saying this is the oddest time of year to be confronted with "academic issues". For a returning player, everything necessary to be eligible for fall semester should already be in place and, even if fall classes have already started, it too early to "be in trouble". Regardless, I hope he gets things straightened out.

Peace

 

[Poetax]

The problem if I am the coach is no matter how talented he may be if he is not dependable and is likely to often to be on suspensions how can I trust him. Just when he is needed most he just might not be available. I would be trying hard to find a replacement for him. and if he didn't straighten up and fly right I would send him packing. If you are not available you are of no use to me.

If we give too many second, third, fourth, or more chances we become what we accuse UofL of being.

He hasn't beaten anybody's girlfriend yet, I don't believe.

 

[WeepNoMore]

This is not Hatcher's first rodeo. Time to move on. No sense giving reps to a player you can't depend on. Despite his talent and our needs, he should be redshirted. Would give him time to get himself together and get his priorities right.

 

[Tyblue22]

Its academic. After his "incident" a while back, he was going to be held to a higher standard, and had more things he agreed to do. Some didn't get done. Period. End of story. Its not our job as fans to concern ourselves with it. Just root for the kid when he is back on the field. He is a great kid, and a beast on the field.

 

[hmt5000]

IMO this is not over an academic thing. He would not be suspended 2 games for that. This is over some type of bad behavior.

if it was a failed drug test then i assume that hatcher would of had to of told the staff that he was gonna fail and they just had to wait for the test results to come back to make it official. IF that is what happened then it could be good or could be bad. i've seen guys at work that did that but they almost all ended up quitting or getting fired after admitting they failed it because they were just trying to save their job as it is immediate termination but if you admit to a "problem" ahead of time they pay for counseling and rehab but they had no intention of changing their behavior and just wanted to get a check for a few more months.

IF he did fail a drug test then hopefully he realized this is his last chance and he admitted it because he wants to commit to the team and wants to play football and not be stuck working at ups part time. would love for something to actually leak out so we can quit speculating and know what the hell is going on with a guy that should be top 5 in our defensive unit this year.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Just saying this is the oddest time of year to be confronted with "academic issues". For a returning player, everything necessary to be eligible for fall semester should already be in place and, even if fall classes have already started, it too early to "be in trouble". Regardless, I hope he gets things straightened out.

Peace

Well, the summer session is ending and if he has an incomplete and has to finish work, or has missed classes, or not adhered to the CATS schedule, he would be in academic trouble over the summer. Especially if he was on the cusp of ineligibility.

Not saying any of this is the case, but just providing examples.

 

[mrschwump]

Disagree with this. He was a projected starter and another player who would have provided depth at that position(Kobie Walker) will also likely be out for the SCAR game. To act like this "won't matter much" isn't being realistic. Losing your top 2 projected players at a position isn't anything to scoff at.

As unfortunate as it may be, though, this kind of stuff is going to happen every now and again. These are things that UK will have to unfortunately overcome in its development as a program, and building quality depth at all positions would help lessen the blow of losses like this.

Sure it'd be better to have another body to put out there. Point I was making was not from a depth issue but from a talent issue. Hatcher has underachieved in his UK career, don't see how anyone can think otherwise. Don't forget he lost his starting job late last year, kind of understandable now based on his selfish actions that are coming to light. Hopefully he'll come back ready to play.

 

[Rockford]

No matter what infraction he was suspended for it is a bad deal. A selfish move that hurts his team..... and not the first time.

 

[swflCAT]

because 99% of the time, that is what "violation of team rules" means. I could certainly be wrong, not trying to start any rumors. Just putting 2 and 2 together.

Did you know that you are a dumb ass? Please tell us, not starting any rumors, what violation of team rules means...... 99% of times? is there only one rule or are there so few rules that some really dont count.

How often do you notice that you are wrong? How often do your acquaintances notice that you are wrong? it they let you go like this much..... that is not nice, and you are all dumb asses.

yes I know what I am

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

I rest my case....

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

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[Grumpyolddawg]

Gotta agree with jrockets on this one. And if Richt suspends kid for missing a study hall (that and nothing more) that seems pretty harsh to me.

Every coach has his own rules but, by and large, it seems penalties for "violation of team rules" are much like our legal system of classifying crimes (and respective punishment) as misdemeanors and felonies. You run steps, do 5:00 AM conditioning runs for "team misdemeanors" like cutting a class or being late for a team meeting. Game suspensions are generally reserved for the "felony violations".

Since all summer classes have ended I'm not sure there is any valid academic work that could be done now to salvage eligibility for the fall semester. Coaches very seldom address the specifics of a suspension other than a "violation of team rules". Sometimes you will see an "in season" suspension levied to enforce a more serious attitude about on going classwork but it is a bit early to think that is the issue. FWIW, there is a lengthy thread on HOB about this suspension and the "consensus" is that it had little, if anything, to do with studies.

Peace

Never said I ageed with it, but it is Right's rule. The kid hasn't missed another, comes from pretty tough place in south Florida. I know Right catches a lot of heat for IT UGA a much publized discipline issues and some mistakes he has made on the sideline. But I really believe he tried to help these kids, everyone of the ones dismissed, UGA rule not a Richtrule, he helps them find a place to go. His one unforgiveabe rule is, don't lie to him

Mckensie accepted the responsibility and said he wouldn't miss another. Three are some better coaches out there, but I don't

Gotta agree with jrockets on this one. And if Richt suspends kid for missing a study hall (that and nothing more) that seems pretty harsh to me.

Every coach has his own rules but, by and large, it seems penalties for "violation of team rules" are much like our legal system of classifying crimes (and respective punishment) as misdemeanors and felonies. You run steps, do 5:00 AM conditioning runs for "team misdemeanors" like cutting a class or being late for a team meeting. Game suspensions are generally reserved for the "felony violations".

Since all summer classes have ended I'm not sure there is any valid academic work that could be done now to salvage eligibility for the fall semester. Coaches very seldom address the specifics of a suspension other than a "violation of team rules". Sometimes you will see an "in season" suspension levied to enforce a more serious attitude about on going classwork but it is a bit early to think that is the issue. FWIW, there is a lengthy thread on HOB about this suspension and the "consensus" is that it had little, if anything, to do with studies.

Peace

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Never said I ageed with it, but it is Right's rule. The kid hasn't missed another, comes from pretty tough place in south Florida. I know Right catches a lot of heat for IT UGA a much publized discipline issues and some mistakes he has made on the sideline. But I really believe he tried to help these kids, everyone of the ones dismissed, UGA rule not a Richtrule, he helps them find a place to go. His one unforgiveabe rule is, don't lie to him

Mckensie accepted the responsibility and said he wouldn't miss another. Three are some better coaches out there, but I don't

Like I said I am not a big fan of suspensions, but we are talking about conditioned top flight athletes here, they can run stadium steps forever, its not like some old man like me running them, what kid of deterrent is that? Give them some rubber gloves and a tooth brush and scrub toilets, but running isn't much of a big deal to a skilled athlete in top condition, plus the liability of tripping and breaking something on said bleachers and losing the the entire season. To punish you have to take something they want or have them do something they hate doing, for a lineman maybe running fits, but not so much for a kid walking around at 7% body fat.

 

[dorkmeister]

Glad coach is giving second chances and not just throwing him to the side. All kids mess up and deserve a second chance when they have the talent he has.

 

[Phil McKracken]

"News broke yesterday that Jason Hatcher will miss the first two game of the season due to a university-sanctioned suspension."

This is the reason on KSR this morning, not violation of team rules. Not sure what a university-sanctioned suspension is.. Still stupid move what ever he did.

 

[GoBigBlue37]

This is not Hatcher's first rodeo. Time to move on. No sense giving reps to a player you can't depend on. Despite his talent and our needs, he should be redshirted. Would give him time to get himself together and get his priorities right.

Disagree 100% about rshirting him, would give him even more time to mess up again.

 

[RV2]

Paging Denzel Ware paging Mr. Denzel Ware

Might want to page Denzil instead.

 

[dorkmeister]

Hope the school doesn't screw him like they did Tubbman. The school should have no say in the athletic program.

 

[GoBigBlue37]

Hope the school doesn't screw him like they did Tubbman. The school should have no say in the athletic program.

LOL WOW, student athlete

 

[tmuck]

LMAO at dork, the little subtle UL poser Troll. Been getting away with it for years.

 

[Dallas-Wild]

Hope the school doesn't screw him like they did Tubbman. The school should have no say in the athletic program.

Oh good grief man.....think before you type or at least read it before you hit post reply.

 

[Cawood86]

Might want to page Denzil instead.

Yeah, stupid auto correct

 

[BBBLazing]

Hope the school doesn't screw him like they did Tubbman. The school should have no say in the athletic program.

You realize that it is a school team? Really?

 

[BBBLazing]

Violation of team rules means he is not doing what every other athlete on the team is doing. Don't defend him. These kids go to war together and he should be a leader. If he is not willing to do what he is told to do, suspend him. If he doesn't straighten out, get rid of him. Just because he is good doesn't give him the right or ability to act different than the other kids. Drew Barker supposedly has matured. Jason Hatcher needs to mature or move on. Watch the documentary on Maurice Clarette. Treating them with kids' gloves is the wrong way.

 

[WeepNoMore]

Glad coach is giving second chances and not just throwing him to the side. All kids mess up and deserve a second chance when they have the talent he has.

This will be Hatcher's 3rd chance. Think he deserves a redshirt at best in order to get his act together. And, no, I am not a troll. Just think Hatcher's actions detract from the rest of our team, who are for the most part responsible student/athletes. Hatcher after the second suspension simply is not.

IMHO, both Hatcher and Drew Barker need to be kept on a short leash and be cut loose, if they can't get their respective acts together.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

I don't claim to know all the ins and outs with Hatcher but what I do know is that his career to date has been underwhelming IMO. He hasn't lived up to the hype promised when he signed. Maybe that's my fault, maybe I expected too much. What I do know is somebody at the position Hatcher plays, be it him or someone else, must step up their game if UK hopes to show marked defensive improvement this year.

He is still young. I thought this coming season would be break-out season for Hatcher. I really think he could be a serious force this season with his quickness, but this suspension really throws things off...Really irritates me that he can't play against an SEC opponent like SC. His teammates need him on the field.

 

[gobigblue812]

Enough with the he's young, he's like other students, blah blah blah. How many other guys on the team are having as many issues as he's had? He's a junior. He should act like it. Time to be a leader. Jason, stay clean, go to class, make the grades and realize your potential. The NFL is waiting buy you can't get there on your current path.

 

[Poetax]

He was just on a 'plan', and a little short leash because of 1 old issue. And he didn't exactly fulfill his obligation of being on that short leash, in the class room. jeez, its not a big deal at all. Drew Barkers 'issueS' were a lot more, and a lot worse. He is still here and fine. Chill out

Concerning Barker, I still don't see where getting suckered punched and being with a group that had an air pistol are horrible crimes?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Buh said today that over the last five days, Ware and Allen have made the biggest strides. He seems to be enjoying watching Ware improve with practice.