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Everything being said about Jagger at C now is what was said about Eli exactly 12 months ago
 
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Everything being said about Jagger at C now is what was said about Eli exactly 12 months ago
I don’t remember Eli cox having snap issues …we didn’t block up middle as well snd i heard lie call as a problem…..but we never saw this many snap issues
 
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He also didn’t develop a thing for the short time he was here.

As we are getting screwed with it somewhat still.
Maybe maybe not but that was years ago. And we couldn’t pick up simple stunts the entire season last year. That’s not because of him. We haven’t recruited a tackle worth a damn since Landon and Kinard. That goes before him and after him. He’s just a scapegoat
 
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Maybe maybe not but that was years ago. And we couldn’t pick up simple stunts the entire season last year. That’s not because of him. We haven’t recruited a tackle worth a damn since Landon and Kinard. That goes before him and after him. He’s just a scapegoat
From highschool. Obviously we went got the kid from Niu this year and we’ll see how ford turns out.
 
It was not a garbage call.....Dline tries to disengage and go sideline....then you grab jersey and impede...it was a hold. The NG wasn't goign to make a play on the TD...but it was a hold

It definitely was.

The play was four yards in front of it. It was the sissiest “tug” and There was no advantage or disadvantage.

And that’s what refs are supposed to used to decide.
 
It definitely was.

The play was four yards in front of it. It was the sissiest “tug” and There was no advantage or disadvantage.

And that’s what refs are supposed to used to decide.
The zebra sees you grabbing that jersey he's going to drop that flag 100 times out of 100
It was a mental mistake on the part of Burton.

It's unfortunate that football has never adopted the basketball concept of "no harm no foul" but it is what it is and the official was simply doing his job that he get's graded on.
 
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Maybe maybe not but that was years ago. And we couldn’t pick up simple stunts the entire season last year. That’s not because of him. We haven’t recruited a tackle worth a damn since Landon and Kinard. That goes before him and after him. He’s just a scapegoat
I agree.
 
Maybe maybe not but that was years ago. And we couldn’t pick up simple stunts the entire season last year. That’s not because of him. We haven’t recruited a tackle worth a damn since Landon and Kinard. That goes before him and after him. He’s just a scapegoat

Hardly. He was the worst of the bunch last year at picking up twists. Nevermind he couldn't block his man even when he had the right guy. To hide him they moved him to center and now he's blowing the snaps.

Even on his best days, he was only mediocre. Most days, below average. Last sat - atrocious.

I'm not beating up on the kid. We need him to develop into the guy we thought we had. He is just a long way away
 
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Hardly. He was the worst of the bunch last year at picking up twists. Nevermind he couldn't block his man even when he had the right guy. To hide him they moved him to center and now he's blowing the snaps.

Even on his best days, he was only mediocre. Most days, below average. Last sat - atrocious.

I'm not beating up on the kid. We need him to develop into the guy we thought we had. He is just a long way away
? I wasn’t talking about burton. I agree he’s been bad tho I’m not sure we have any better options. We were talking about the old Oline coach lol. I feel like he’s been a scapegoat for a much larger issue
 
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This shows you how many people don’t actually watch the game, two plays you make a judgement actually played played pretty well overall
No offense but you don't know what you're talking about. It was far more than two plays. We've seen three games full of his errors. And as others have said even Stoops has pointed out his poor play.
 
Maybe maybe not but that was years ago. And we couldn’t pick up simple stunts the entire season last year. That’s not because of him. We haven’t recruited a tackle worth a damn since Landon and Kinard. That goes before him and after him. He’s just a scapegoat
You're correct on recruiting. We've struggled with that since John Schlarman passed away. We've whiffed on many good prospects.
 
? I wasn’t talking about burton. I agree he’s been bad tho I’m not sure we have any better options. We were talking about the old Oline coach lol. I feel like he’s been a scapegoat for a much larger issue

Ok my bad misread it.
 
Do we seriously not have anybody better on the bench? High snaps, critical, unnecessary hold. He kills the rhythm of the offense.
Kids having a rough time. Rewatched the game last night and the thing that bothers me most is that he literally seemed to be laughing about it.
 
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Looks more like crying to me.
Kids having a rough time. Rewatched the game last night and the thing that bothers me most is that he literally seemed to be laughing about it.
No offense but you don't know what you're talking about. It was far more than two plays. We've seen three games full of his errors. And as others have said even Stoops has pointed out his poor play.

For whatever it may be worth to you, Freddie Maggard disagrees. I have no doubt that Maggard understands tactical offensive football and pays a lot of attention to each player on our offense. I won't repeat his specific analysis here. If interested, you can google his remarks about Burton's play. In any case, I see no public evidence that Burton's starting job is in jeopardy although, like every other player on our team, his quality of play has to improve now that the SEC portion of our schedule is starting. Can't afford anymore unforced errors.
 
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I don’t remember Eli cox having snap issues …we didn’t block up middle as well snd i heard lie call as a problem…..but we never saw this many snap issues
cox has been lost a lot this year at guard not sure he's the answer.
 
cox has been lost a lot this year at guard not sure he's the answer.
It doesn’t look like any of these guys have improved and Cox has regressed from two years ago.

Leary has no time to go through reads because we still can’t pass block. Not sure if Yenser is the answer.
 
cox has been lost a lot this year at guard not sure he's the answer.
Do what? The question was who could do any better at center then Burton…and Cox didn’t have nothing t like snapping issues last year that Burton has had in all three games to be fair
 
Ok JB

We’ve trashed you enough.


Get this crap squared away and make us look like fools

Come on big guy

DO IT!!

Cats got Vandy

Go Cats
 
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That is wrong dude! I want Jagger to be a winner but you are making ish up!
He's really not. You might not remember the OLine hate from last year, but it got so bad that I took a hiatus from the board. Every week became a game where fans tried their best to rake a different lineman across the coals. A lot of the time it was Flax and Cox. Something about having an X in ones name, I suppose.
 
Looks more like crying to me.
I have to second this. When I've seen Burton after a flub, he looks frustrated, red, angry, and on the verge of a breakdown. It's a lot of pressure to play for the school you've loved your whole life and not meet your own expectations despite working your ass off... Or so I have to assume.

Fact is that he's just a sophomore who's had one crappy OLine coach (now at BAMA) and one who doesn't seem to be all that (as of yet). I think he has a ton of potential, but he desperately needs reps and to get things sorted between his ears. I think he could be a great asset once the game slows down.
 
I spoke w JB. I told him that he can do it

Get rid of the noise between your ears. Don’t think about it, just go do it
 
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cox has been lost a lot this year at guard not sure he's the answer.
It doesn’t look like any of these guys have improved and Cox has regressed from two years ago.

Let's seriously try to reconcile this with Cox having recently been named SEC offensive lineman of the week. Things are seldom as simple as they may seem.

Leary has no time to go through reads because we still can’t pass block. Not sure if Yenser is the answer.

I agree, the book is still out on Yenser. IMHO Yenser will have to get it done this season or get off the bike, so to speak. I have never been sold on the Yenser hire, although I would be glad to change my mind and admit I was wrong if he gets the job done this year. Having said that, the issues with keeping a clean pocket are not that simple. Last weekend, Akron was using safety and nickel blitzes that were designed to come from angles an OT had no chance to pick up. These have to be picked up by a RB or, in some instances, even a blocking TE. That wasn't getting done. It doesn't necessarily mean Davis was missing blocks. Often, Davis is a receiver or safety valve and out of position to block. We just didn't seem to have the right blocking schemes on those particular plays, and I suspect some of that has to do with the staff's faith in Leary to get the ball out quickly. The simple fact here is that UK's offense is allowing an average of one sack per game, and that is tied with GA and TN for best in the SEC. So we are doing something right.
 
He's really not. You might not remember the OLine hate from last year, but it got so bad that I took a hiatus from the board. Every week became a game where fans tried their best to rake a different lineman across the coals. A lot of the time it was Flax and Cox. Something about having an X in ones name, I suppose.
Exactly. To portray UK fans on this board as happy with the play of Eli at center last September is rewriting history. His play was trashed, along with the other 4.

No, he didn't snap any over Levis head. But he was blamed A TON as screwing up blocking assignments, causing tackles for losses and sacks. And for being just as clueless as the rest of them handling twists & stunts.
 
For whatever it may be worth to you, Freddie Maggard disagrees. I have no doubt that Maggard understands tactical offensive football and pays a lot of attention to each player on our offense. I won't repeat his specific analysis here. If interested, you can google his remarks about Burton's play. In any case, I see no public evidence that Burton's starting job is in jeopardy although, like every other player on our team, his quality of play has to improve now that the SEC portion of our schedule is starting. Can't afford anymore unforced errors.
Well, it's certainly not like Freddie could possibly be wrong. He would never try to look at things in a more positive manner to take some heat off the kids.
 
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Well, it's certainly not like Freddie could possibly be wrong. He would never try to look at things in a more positive manner to take some heat off the kids.
Okay. So you know more about the play of our OL than a former UK QB does? You sticking with that? Positive is not necessarily wrong, and not necessarily bad either.
 
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We've been winning. They are gonna let him play until he really costs us a game, it seems. Maybe then they can bench him without the coach's office being locked at FDHS or Burton jumping in the portal. Seems like there might be more at work here than quality control assessment. More than that, I'm not sure I care until that "but for" loss. A young guy must learn, and does only part of that at a whiteboard.
 
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No kidding. Maggard is the biggest homer out there and he admits it.
💯 That's my whole point. Freddie knows more about football than all of us, probably. But even he can be wrong and sometimes he lets his feelings interfere with his opinions. He even says as much, you're correct. But the Emporer of The Board doesn't like that kind of talk so we better hush.
 
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More than enough media people around who belittle and trash and downplay UK football. Nothing wrong with 1 blatant homer like Freddie.

Get out more. All other SEC schools have at least 20 "journalists" in their towns/states who pretend to be unbiased, but in reality waive pompoms 24/7.
 
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Some of you, in order to cling to your favorite negative opinions, feel you have to call out Maggard for being positive. Maybe Maggard is just saying what he thinks.
 
Some of you, in order to cling to your favorite negative opinions, feel you have to call out Maggard for being positive. Maybe Maggard is just saying what he thinks.
You're the one who brought my cousin Freddie into this. I'll ask you to please not do that again. I'm sure he'd appreciate it. And yes he's my actual 2nd cousin.
 
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More than enough media people around who belittle and trash and downplay UK football. Nothing wrong with 1 blatant homer like Freddie.

Get out more. All other SEC schools have at least 20 "journalists" in their towns/states who pretend to be unbiased, but in reality waive pompoms 24/7.
Freddie is an asset to our fanbase. I wish the other guy hadn't brought him into this as an unbiased reference Gotcha. You can't have it both ways. If he's a homer, you can't use him as the definitive voice on a player.
 
Freddie is an asset to our fanbase. I wish the other guy hadn't brought him into this as an unbiased reference Gotcha.

You would be fine with it if Freddie agreed with you. Don't pretend like you are unbiased. When it comes to UK football, no one is.
 
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