Do we seriously not have anybody better on the bench? High snaps, critical, unnecessary hold. He kills the rhythm of the offense.
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How do you get a false start as a center? Worst performance of the game. Needs to lose his spot
He's terrible. Typical stoops though to leave him in. Maybe he will try someone else, maybe the freshman saves the day like Drake Jackson did when he got his shot. But the answer is definitely not Burton.
He was beyond terrible last year but I figured he was just thrown in a bit too early. So far this year, he’s not any better.
Yeah....he is hard to defend. Not just snap issues but he's a penalty factory and he's not a dominate interior blocker. Snaps are all over the place in Ball St and this game....looks like the year they tried Bunchy at C....had to move to Drake Jackson
This shows you how many people don’t actually watch the game, two plays you make a judgement actually played played pretty well overall
It really irks me that Burton was one of the ones that was drastically improved based on stories out of camp.
If this is improved then I underestimated how exactly terrible he was last year because while he was bad I almost feel like he's gotten worse.
It really irks me that Burton was one of the ones that was drastically improved based on stories out of camp.
If this is improved then I underestimated how exactly terrible he was last year because while he was bad I almost feel like he's gotten worse
Burton definitely did not play anywhere close to good. Not sure what you watched.
Have any of the Fredrick Douglas kids done anything except for Dane? And he’s dropping the ball all over like that’s his job or something.
That was one of the most garbage holding calls.
Yes was unnecessary to even do but it gave zero advantage or disadvantage and was more like linemen effing around after the play was over.
But the snaps have to be on point every time. We don’t have that margin of error against sec teams. None actually.
Yes was unnecessary to even do but it gave zero advantage or disadvantage and was more like linemen effing around after the play was over.
But the snaps have to be on point every time. We don’t have that margin of error against sec teams. None actually.
Doesn't matter how well you play overall. As a center you can't make bad snaps and have bonehead penalties. A false start by a center when you are the one snapping the ball? Holding on an interior lineman? That's a hard to get penalty there.... I can't make a judgement on his physical ability but what I can say is center is a very cerebral position and those mental mistakes are inexcusable
It was not a garbage call.....Dline tries to disengage and go sideline....then you grab jersey and impede...it was a hold. The NG wasn't goign to make a play on the TD...but it was a hold
” I believe in our team. We're going to work, and fight, and grind, but there are some expectations that aren't being met at some positions. Center may be one of them.”
Well that was a quote from Mark Stoops post game show so…………
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Stoops hinted on post game with Tom, that Cox may be back at center.
Nothing definite, just considering options.
Nothing definite, just considering options.
I was surprised we didn't see that switch in-game. Burton's face said it all before half. Dude was flustered and pissed. Way in over his head for now. I don't think college ball has slowed for him yet.
I watched every play of the game, he didn't play " pretty well ". His numerous bad snaps kill the flow of the play. By bad snaps I mean snaps that arent delivered to QB in a comfortable position. He had a ton of those
I feel bad for him, but how hard is it to snap the ball? You do it all week during practice. It should be second nature to him now.
He’s been tripping since he got here. Idk how many times you could see him rolling around on the ground last season
At this point, I'm ready to see the Freshman Keenum get a shot at the job. Cox actually struggled adapting to the Center position last season too. It takes a person that can stay one step ahead of everyone else on the field.
Need to hire Wolford back from Alabama.
He's smart enough to know Jagr needs to stay on the sideline.
He's smart enough to know Jagr needs to stay on the sideline.
I agree. We need to take a hard look into this situation. We make these mistakes against a first rate team we lose easily.
Would like to see what Cox at center and Bowles at RG would look like. Saw Bowles get into it a little late with one of their players. Maybe he is more aggressive also.
We are really bad on Oline - just look poorly Coached
Yesner might be the worst coach in the country. No idea why he wasn’t fired last year, other than Stoops didn’t want to fire every coach he hired last year.
Really wish we’d given someone else snaps against the stinky teams. Not really an opportunity to change now.
Wolford hasn't exactly distinguished himself at Bama with all the talent they have. Young's escapability last year covered up for an average OL and this year's unit isn't any better.
Been pointing this out forever. Why the staff is so invested in him is a mystery to me. He struggled at guard (many of those early twist errors were on him, despite the blame going to LT). Then they move him to center to try to give him even more chances and he proceeds to continually make snaps and adventure.
We're all cheering for the kid but cmon.
Eli Cox is just a hair behind him. How he was mid season all American a few years ago was mind-blowing. He's above average and better than Jager but his arc is still disappointing.
For all the grief RT got, the two T positions are performing much better than Jager and E cox.
PS really impressed with Ray. He won't blow you away but he also doesn't hurt you at all. Can't ask for much more from a backup LG
We're all cheering for the kid but cmon.
Eli Cox is just a hair behind him. How he was mid season all American a few years ago was mind-blowing. He's above average and better than Jager but his arc is still disappointing.
For all the grief RT got, the two T positions are performing much better than Jager and E cox.
PS really impressed with Ray. He won't blow you away but he also doesn't hurt you at all. Can't ask for much more from a backup LG
Just watching the replay and ooooof he was worse than even I thought. Saw his pff grade was 45 or something. Brutal
Show me an SEC center who has not had a high snap and a penalty in his career.
Show me an SEC team that's had a great season with its center completely blowinh assignments, snapping high, and missing blocks. Burton will grow, but some of the criticism is absolutely warranted. He's young, though, and he'll learn.
and a totally unnecessary hold that cost a TD.
Not only is that bridge burnt , it’s been incinerated.
I don't actually want him back. But it touched a nerve how KSR personalities went to far criticizing him. And a lot was how St Jager was misused. I need to let that go.
If Horsey is able to go, would not surprise me to see Ray switch sides and Cox move to center and Bowles backup both guard positions.
Wouldn't hurt but the staff has shown time and again they are invested in getting Burton on the field come hell or high water. They didn't even offer Austin Dotson, a really good run blocker, a covid year from what I understand. They were ready to give Jager his turn.
Man. Everybody blamed him for the Oline falling apart when the reality is we’ve completely missed in recruiting. It is what is and we have to utilize the portal to fix it
Well he was recruiting for Alabama while he was being paid by Kentucky so I don’t have any sympathy for him.
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