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IU player barely brushes by Coach K...

Ugoff said:
Ah, there it is.... the faux elitism we've all come to know.
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Your reaction feels very defensive. If you thought that the kid should have at least said "Whoops, sorry coach" and that's what YOU would have done, then I would say you and I were raised in a similar fashion. Nothing elite about that. So... what's the issue?

Talk about missing the forest for the trees...

Anyway, I think I've pretty clearly demonstrated what happened. The IU kid has his elbow and arm out. The 60 year old coach has been pushed sideways. The coach was irritated. He later said it was likely an accident, no biggie. If you guys think Cal, who is about as competitive and fired up as a coach can be, would have just backed off and not cared, go ahead, but I think it shows you might not know your own coach that well. I'll let you guys continue on with your pre-determined narrative thread;)
 
TheDude1 said:
Your reaction feels very defensive. If you thought that the kid should have at least said "Whoops, sorry coach" and that's what YOU would have done, then I would say you and I were raised in a similar fashion. Nothing elite about that. So... what's the issue?

Talk about missing the forest for the trees...

Anyway, I think I've pretty clearly demonstrated what happened. The IU kid has his elbow and arm out. The 60 year old coach has been pushed sideways. The coach was irritated. He later said it was likely an accident, no biggie. If you guys think Cal, who is about as competitive and fired up as a coach can be, would have just backed off and not cared, go ahead, but I think it shows you might not know your own coach that well. I'll let you guys continue on with your pre-determined narrative thread;)
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Defensive? Hardly. There seems to be a difference of opinion about whether it was intentional or not. For you to disagree is fine, but to cast aspersions on others upbringing while doing it is exactly why a large portion of your fanbase is despised.
 
I think the kid was angry and frustrated and impatient with someone brushing against him, but not sure he knew it was Coach K. He never turned his head to the side.
 
I can't believe this is still going on. Is Duke fans and Coach K such wussies that someone brushes into them creates an issue?

Seriously, do they expect him to shine his shoes or something.
 
Ugoff said:
Defensive? Hardly. There seems to be a difference of opinion about whether it was intentional or not. For you to disagree is fine, but to cast aspersions on others upbringing while doing it is exactly why a large portion of your fanbase is despised.
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Okay, I think we are having a misunderstanding.

I look at it like this:

1) If it was UNINTENTIONAL, I would think the kid would turn and say "Oh crap, sorry coach," especially when it is a younger kid and an older coach. This is how I was raised. I have no idea if you were raised that way or not.

2) If it was INTENTIONAL... well, then it was a really questionable move. Brush by on an opposing player? Eh, okay, a bit of gamesmanship. But brush by on a COACH? I certainly wasn't raised that way, and would never do that. I don't know about you.

So that's why I said maybe I was raised different. If you would be fine with a young person trying to send a message to an older coach by running into him, fine, we were raised differently. If you would be fine with a young person accidently running into an opposing coach and not giving a quick "Sorry coach," then again, we were raised differently. If you agree with me, fine, we were raised in a similar fashion.
 
Geez. He brushed him and Duke fans are literally crying over it.

Maybe he brushed by him and just went to the locker room. This thread is proof that Duke fans also flop in the sense they make a big deal out of very little contact.
 
You can tell from his demeanor that he didn't apologize because he was in a bad mood. Still not sure he knew it was K.

Crean had them plenty fired up, too bad they couldn't translate that into defense.
 
Dear lord, Duke fan. Don't come in here demeaning us and essentially say "well, if you don't agree with me you were raised in a barn". GTFO with that attitude.

During almost every game it's a madhouse at halftime with players, managers, and coaches all running to the locker room. Players bumping into each other left and right. It happens during timeouts as players try to make it to their bench. It's so frequent I'm sure they hardly even notice.

That kid never flinched. Never looked over or paid any sort of attention to it. And you are right, no one walks around with their arm out like that...... EXCEPT when you get bumped. That's just a natural reaction to getting bumped. But maybe you are a women and never played a man's sport and you don't understand (see how easy it is to be passive aggressive with insults).

Finally, don't come in our house and lecture us on manners. Especially when you are simply spouting off an opinion (it was intentional) that your own God-like hero of a coach just disputed (Accident).

So either your opinion is wrong or you think coach K is a liar. Either way, watch how you talk us peasants here in the backwoods.
 
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And if every big man in college Bball apologized to every person they "bump" into during a game, id say their PER would drop like a rock. Because all they would be doing is apologizing.

That kid didn't think twice about that bump and probably didn't even notice it, considering all the other physical crap they put up with
 
TheDude1 said:
Okay, I think we are having a misunderstanding.

I look at it like this:

1) If it was UNINTENTIONAL, I would think the kid would turn and say "Oh crap, sorry coach," especially when it is a younger kid and an older coach. This is how I was raised. I have no idea if you were raised that way or not.

2) If it was INTENTIONAL... well, then it was a really questionable move. Brush by on an opposing player? Eh, okay, a bit of gamesmanship. But brush by on a COACH? I certainly wasn't raised that way, and would never do that. I don't know about you.

So that's why I said maybe I was raised different. If you would be fine with a young person trying to send a message to an older coach by running into him, fine, we were raised differently. If you would be fine with a young person accidently running into an opposing coach and not giving a quick "Sorry coach," then again, we were raised differently. If you agree with me, fine, we were raised in a similar fashion.
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Oh I get what you are saying, but I find it interesting that instead of just discussing the incident, you feel the need to go right to the "how you were raised" mantra. That's all I've got on this. Say hello to Biff and Muffy for us.
 
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Ratface should have flopped and groveled for a flagrant two.

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LOOK LOOK HE HAS A HALF EXTENDED CHICKEN WING!!! OMG HE TRYING TO KILL KRYSHEHEHDHSKI!!

And if you don't see that, you are idiot inbred.

Oh, wait, K said it was probably an accident? Well you are still an idiot inbred UK fan raised in a barn. I mean, maybe he didn't try to KILL him, but he didn't even say sorry!!!! Were you raised in a barn?

Signed,

Over sensitive Duke fan not raised in a barn.
 
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Wow! i can't believe this is even a topic for conversation. "Maybe it was an accident"? Good lord, K. Get over yourself. If you get bumped into and not injured, maybe you should just shrug it off and not make such a big deal about it. If you expect class from any IU player, that is your own fault. When a school has Tom Crean coaching them, you will never see any class.
 
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BlueBlood66 said:
Don't know and don't really care, haven't even watched the video of what actually happened.
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Just curious, how long have you been a Duke fan and why do you only post on a UK board. I'm not trying to bust your balls, I'm just really curious. Why a Duke fan play a devils advocate and even comment on threads where they admitted know nothing about. I'm guessing you won't answer.

Actually, I'm sure you won't answer .Just stay home little man.
 
MWes11 said:
You never wanna see anyone fall over like that, but holy hell do I laugh every time I see this. I don't think this was planned, but it looks that way.
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TBH I think Krzyzewski had a momentary dizzy spell in the video from that game 10 years ago, but I can understand what you're saying.

As far as this particular incident from last night, I think Bielfeldt (I first thought it was Collin Hartman) did stick his elbow out unintentionally and as a result, K got a slight bump. I get not liking it in the heat of the moment, but I do think Capel overreacted by confronting Bielfeldt. Both should have just taken a second to be slightly miffed about it, but that should have been it.
 
Clive Gollings said:
Just curious, how long have you been a Duke fan and why do you only post on a UK board. I'm not trying to bust your balls, I'm just really curious. Why a Duke fan play a devils advocate and even comment on threads where they admitted know nothing about. I'm guessing you won't answer.
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I don't only post on a UK board, I post on DBR and Inside Carolina as well. Just neither of those is a rivals board because the rivals ones for Duke and UNC get less traffic than their counterparts.

And I come here and to all message boards to read about and gain info about college basketball. It's entertaining more or less.
 
TheDude1 said:
Sorry, all of you claiming there was no shove off are wrong. If you go back and watch, you can see the elbow and arm of Bielfeldt extended out after the contact. Here is a screenshot:



At this point the IU players arm is extended outward in a chicken-wing (nobody walks with their arms all jacked to the side) and K has been turned sideways by the contact. There was a bit of a shove there, and certainly no turn of the head and "Whoops, sorry coach" or anything. I cannot recall seeing that very often, and I think a head coach certainly has the right to get a bit miffed at that, especially when the coach is in his 60s and a youngster walks into him. Given that K said later it was likely an accident, I think it was handled fine. I know I certainly wouldn't have walked into a coach like that, and if I did it accidently I would turn and apologize, especially if I was a foot taller and 40 years younger.

But who knows, maybe I was just raised differently than some of you.
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LOL....You do know that if your arm makes contact with something when you are running by it that the chicken wing will be the natural result. Now also the reverse is true. If the kid had thrown a chicken wing at K when he ran by him on purpose then his arm in this screenshot you took here would be more down by his side area toward the hip.

Did you help the UofL fan with those 50 still shot photos from a couple of years ago that proved the refs were cheating?
 
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cats2010 said:
LOL....You do know that if your arm makes contact with something when you are running by it that the chicken wing will be the natural result. Now also the reverse is true. If the kid had thrown a chicken wing at K when he ran by him on purpose then his arm in this screenshot you took here would be more down by his side area toward the hip.

Did you help the UofL fan with those 50 still shot photos from a couple of years ago that proved the refs were cheating?
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No doubt Coach K flopped. It's funny to watch the Duke fans defend it. Bring up the Paulus flops and they'll defend it as well.
 
DodgerDukie, I like your style. When you are in enemy territory a litte self deprecating humor goes a long way.
 
Ugoff said:
DodgerDukie, I like your style. When you are in enemy territory a litte self deprecating humor goes a long way.
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Once in a while something is just so bad that it's funny and all you can do is laugh. That flop from Paulus without even being touched definitely qualifies as such lmao
 
I"m just glad UK beat Duke by double digits. It would be insufferable to lose to a bunch of pansies.
 
TheDude1 said:
Okay, I think we are having a misunderstanding.

I look at it like this:

1) If it was UNINTENTIONAL, I would think the kid would turn and say "Oh crap, sorry coach," especially when it is a younger kid and an older coach. This is how I was raised. I have no idea if you were raised that way or not.

2) If it was INTENTIONAL... well, then it was a really questionable move. Brush by on an opposing player? Eh, okay, a bit of gamesmanship. But brush by on a COACH? I certainly wasn't raised that way, and would never do that. I don't know about you.

So that's why I said maybe I was raised different. If you would be fine with a young person trying to send a message to an older coach by running into him, fine, we were raised differently. If you would be fine with a young person accidently running into an opposing coach and not giving a quick "Sorry coach," then again, we were raised differently. If you agree with me, fine, we were raised in a similar fashion.
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Or maybe he didn't realize who he brushed up against?? A lot of bodies around, you're playing a sport and mind is elsewhere, you're use to bumpin into people when walking back to a huddle or to the locker room, there isn't much contact so you think nothing o it and just keep going.

But you're probably right. He probably targeted the old coach and decided to throw an elbow.
 
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