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It's time for Reed to start..

If we get a team in the tourney that jumps on us in the first five minutes and sets the tone, we will revisit this I suppose.
We just took it to number 8 from the word go with only a few minutes lapse. I like the idea of bring Dilly and Reed of the bench when the other team is trying to get a second wind. Starters get a break, Reed and Dilly are unleashed on a slightly worn team and get their motors rolling. Win win for everybody.
 
No need to fix what isn’t broken. Typical for BBN to find something to start controversy where there is no controversy.
It's been from Game 1. Some have been pushing a "Reed is being disrespected/undervalued" by Cal because he's a "Kentucky boy" when it's not even remotely true or even there. Cal has done nothing but praise Reed. Jeff isn't upset over his minutes. I don't see the issue here. You know we're back when this is what we are bitching about.
 
I don't think I have. Reed doesn't seem to care he isn't starting. Why mess with what is working? I personally don't care either way but Cal is sadly infamous for messing with lineups and screwing up chemistry.

It's working. Don't screw with it. Team over individual for once.
We just took it to number 8 from the word go with only a few minutes lapse. I like the idea of bring Dilly and Reed of the bench when the other team is trying to get a second wind. Starters get a break, Reed and Dilly are unleashed on a slightly worn team and get their motors rolling. Win win for everybody.
The point was that he started the second half and we exploded and blew Miami out of the gym. Throwing a wrench in everyone's coming off the bench "magic." Not why he started the second half. Cats were only up 5 at half.
 
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The point was that he started the second half and we exploded and blew Miami out of the gym. Throwing a wrench in everyone's coming off the bench "magic." Not why he started the second half. Cats were only up 5 at half.
The real point is it doesn't matter. We were on fire Tuesday. We might try the exact same thing again tomorrow and it not work. Every game is different. We are great when Reed is on the court. With DJ and Edwards getting better, we're good when he's not as well. Don't screw with what is currently working. When it stops working, re-evalutate.
 
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Reed and Rob bring a spark to this team off the bench that couldn't be replicated by DJ and Rob.

They are a lethal duo off the bench.

Reminder Alert:

Ron Mercer, Mark Pope and to a lesser extent DA were a driving force off the bench in '96. Mercer scored 20 in NCAAT game.

Heshimu Evans, Cameron Mills and Jamaal Magloire were a driving force off the bench in '98. The trio combined for 25 points, 8 rebs and 3 blocks in title game. Evans and Mills made 4/5 Three's UK made in the game while the starters were 1/11.

Darius Miller was a driving force off the bench in '12. His effort as second leading scorer in FF game (13pts) pushed us over the top in beating Louisville to move onto the NCAAT game, where we hung #8.
 
Something that is overlooked is DJ. He is coming along and we can all agree we need him to grow. What does a demotion do to his development? Last thing we need is for DJs confidence to be shaken.

Also reed was a little gassed at the end of the game the other night, hence the missed threes. We need him to get breaks. Cal has been known to leave kids in for too many minutes. But that was when he didn’t trust his bench at all.
This. We absolutely need DJ to be successful for us to get where we want to go. Reed will get his minutes, points, steals, rebounds, etc. and deservedly so.
 
Yeah. Reed is performing well. Let’s change things around and muck it up. Yeah, let’s start him and change up the line ups that are clicking great.

THIS is why rafters and the Bennie’s are a laughing stock. Reed is Reed. Dont matter when he plays. What matters is he plays and how much. I expect Reed to start when the number of minutes he needs to be on the floor demands it.
 
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I disagree with the OP.
Why?
1) "starting" is not what matters most, minutes played is what matters most! Now if the OP had said "it's time for Sheppard to get more than the 24mpg he's gotten so far", then yeah I would support that. Remember when BCG started Coury all year, but he played <11mpg. Minutes matter (most).
2) "IT" (our current lineup) is working. Why rock the boat, why mess with something that's working. Now if we start having struggles, sure this could/should be something to consider.
3) related to #2, we are about to add another piece (Bradshaw). Let's limit how many things we change at 1 time when we are playing well.
4) Confidence. Some guys need perform better starting, others perform better coming off the bench, and others it doesn't really matter. Obviously both Sheppard and Dillingham can play well coming off the bench!!! Can Wagner? Maybe, maybe not. Again, why rock the boat, if you don't have to. Cal and the other coaches who are with him every day can better assess a player's mental/emotional ability to handle certain changes, than us fans who don't know the kids.
5) Spark. I like that "spark" or "energy" when Sheppard and Dillingham come in (usually together). It actually reminds me of when the "White platoon" would enter the game in Dec 2014, you could just see the exhaustion on the other team's face that we just put in a fresh 5 as good as the 5 we took out and that they were going to be relentless for the next 5 minutes.

Now if Wagner starts playing bad, then yeah it may be worth revisiting. But he had played pretty well the past 2-3 games, including that 28pt game.
 
We just took it to number 8 from the word go with only a few minutes lapse. I like the idea of bring Dilly and Reed of the bench when the other team is trying to get a second wind. Starters get a break, Reed and Dilly are unleashed on a slightly worn team and get their motors rolling. Win win for everybody.
I understand your logic. It’s certainly debatable on both sides. It’s a great “problem” to have at least.
 
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Yeah. Reed is performing well. Let’s change things around and muck it up. Yeah, let’s start him and change up the line ups that are clicking great.

THIS is why rafters and the Bennie’s are a laughing stock. Reed is Reed. Dont matter when he plays. What matters is he plays and how much. I expect Reed to start when the number of minutes he needs to be on the floor demands it.
We are just debating it. No one is unhappy right now- except you of course.
 
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Yeah. Reed is performing well. Let’s change things around and muck it up. Yeah, let’s start him and change up the line ups that are clicking great.

THIS is why rafters and the Bennie’s are a laughing stock. Reed is Reed. Dont matter when he plays. What matters is he plays and how much. I expect Reed to start when the number of minutes he needs to be on the floor demands it.
Surely you aren't upset that we are having a discussion on a discussion board
 
I know folks will say it doesn't matter. Of course it matters. Give him the respect he has earned and put him in the starting 5. That's all
The ignore feature is the best thing since the internet. I can put each of these “Reed should be starting” posters on ignore which really weeds out the pitiful posters and then I only see the real quality about our team and not individualism. If y’all haven’t tried the ignore ya really oughtta
 
This a good point people should think about. Reed is going to play the way he plays no matter if he is starting or coming off the bench. I think its funny to see people try and attribute our success to Reed coming off the bench. You could make a much easier argument for our one loss being because he didn't start and/or get starter minuted vs Kansas. If Reed starts that game and plays 25 min(which he should play more) we win. A lot of folks on here are so scared of the truth. Reed should start because he has played at an ELITE level and earned it.
I don't think anyone is saying "Reed can only play good off the bench." They're saying things are going so well, do we really need to mess with it? I really don't care who starts. I care that we win. As long as we look this good and keep winning, Cal can start Brendan Canada for all I care. If we're having issues, let's back up and look at it.

I know everyone here will go to their graves thinking we win the Kansas game if Reed gets 40 minutes. The game I watched, Reed had some big freshman mistakes down the stretch--similar to most of our players. We'll never know. Maybe Reed saves the day. Maybe Reed makes additional freshman mistakes in those extra minutes. If we had a single 7 footer, none of that matters. We punched above our weight class for about 35 minutes with a really good team.
 
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There's and old saying around these parts, I know they say it in Texas, might be in Tennessee too, but definitely Texas....

IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT
Unfortunately, as we've seen, Cal will sometimes get things backwards and impose his own twisted version that says ... "IF IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED THEN BREAK IT".
 
The ignore feature is the best thing since the internet. I can put each of these “Reed should be starting” posters on ignore which really weeds out the pitiful posters and then I only see the real quality about our team and not individualism. If y’all haven’t tried the ignore ya really oughtta
There's just so much of it.

Arguably the best team we've had in a decade, and all anyone wants to do is complain about Cal mistreating the Kentucky boy.
 
At this point my threads are only at about 50% of the content with a note about me ignoring the other half😂. I continually laugh because generally right after those messages is someone else arguing with the people I’m ignoring. Just reinforces my initial decision to use this awesome feature 👊
 
We are just debating it. No one is unhappy right now- except you of course.
You should preface your next Calipari demise prediction with you are just debating. Funny how you get huffy when someone doesn’t agree with you. I just proved starting him adds unnecessary risk and you teared up. Hmmm
 
If we get a team in the tourney that jumps on us in the first five minutes and sets the tone, we will revisit this I suppose.
We just beat #8 by 20+. And we're still discussing how the starting lineup isn't what people think it should be.

I don't think we'll have a single game this year where we don't "revisit this."
 
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You should preface your next Calipari demise prediction with you are just debating. Funny how you get huffy when someone doesn’t agree with you. I just proved starting him adds unnecessary risk and you teared up. Hmmm
I am not “huffy” with anyone here my friend. Carry on, UK is exciting again, and we all should be ecstatic.
 
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To my, and this is my opinion, I like Reed and Rob coming off the bench together. Brings a huge spark and absolutely wears out the other team. Add Bradshaw to make it three together and opposition will likely wilt. Let’s keep doing as we have been, don’t mess up a good thing. Wagner, when healthy, will be seriously important for a title run, as will Edwards. Let’s not mess with their heads right now. It’s working, and working well. Leave it alone.

I reserve the right to change my mind if circumstances change, but right now, we are good just how it is.
 
Start your 5 best players:

Dillingham
Sheppard
Edwards
Mitchell
Bradshaw

Shep is one of them; thus, he should start.
 
Start your 5 best players:

Dillingham
Sheppard
Edwards
Mitchell
Bradshaw

Shep is one of them; thus, he should start.
This will end up being the best starting five in america soon enough if Cal permits it.

Bring Wagner, Reeves and Thiero off the bench.
 
I would say it's more about chemistry than respect. There isn't one person on that team or coaching staff that doesn't respect Sheppard. Sheppard is big enough to set aside the idea of starting to allow Wags to start as he works through his struggles. Wagner hitting on all cylinders only makes the team stronger down the stretch. I understand what you say but I just don't think it's important enough to potentially disrupt team chemistry to satisfy some pride issue, that, I'm sure, doesn't concern Sheppard. JMO.
Agree.
 
Starting may be important, to some maybe more than others. But switching starter-bench roles could do more to shake DJ's confidence than to boost Reed's ego. And Reed is getting all recognition that he would get as a starter. JMO.
 
Start your 5 best players:

Dillingham
Sheppard
Edwards
Mitchell
Bradshaw

Shep is one of them; thus, he should start.
I expect we'll see this group together some as soon as Saturday. But Edwards over Reeves in your starting lineup? I can't agree with that. I don't even think that's a close question. In fact, would statistics and/or your own eye-test even support Edwards starting over Theiro at this point?
 
No other MCBB coach, present or in the past, would have Reed and Rob coming off the bench at this point, except one JVC!

What’s funnier though, is the same people saying it doesn’t matter who starts, would absolutely be roasting Sheyer, Self, or any of the other rival coaches if they were doing the same thing.

It’s called, Stockholm Syndrome.
 
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