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It seems people forgot how good the 1996 team was. The '96 team would likely go undefeated in the current NCAA.

Compare the 1998, 2010, 2012, or 2015 (modern era) teams and then we can have a more nuanced conversation.
 
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Can we please see how these guys play in October before the fan base just decides to go full retard? The 95-96 team? Really?
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I think we have to be a little more open minded, yes, '96 was awesome, but I think we get caught being that guy that caught a 12" bass 10 years ago, but somehow that fish is 27" today.
Nah, man, I'm old enough to remember that championsip and to remember that immediately after and ever since we've looked on that as not just a great UK team but one of THE great teams in college basketball history.
 
G-Delk 6'1" 193lbs SR/G-Oweh 6'5" 212lbs SR
F-Walker 6'8" 224lbs SO/F-Diaboute 6'7" 215lbs JR
F-McCarty 6'11" 230lbs SR/F-Garrison 6'11" 250lbs JR
G-Anderson 6'6" 194lbs JR/G-Johnson 6'4" 180lbs FR
G-Mercer 6'7" 210lbs FR/G-Aberdeen 6'5" 190lbs SR
C-Pope 6'10" 235lbs SR/C-Jelavic 6'11" 220lbs FR
G-Epps 6'2" 182lbs JR/G-Lowe 6'2" 170lbs JR
G-Shepard 6'4" 189 JR/G-Chandler 6'5" 202 SO
G-Turner 6'2" 190lbs FR/G-Hawthorne 6'8" 175lbs FR
F-Prickett 6'9" 235lbs JR-RS/F-Potter 7'1" 220lbs JR-RS
G-F-Edwards 6'5" 205lbs SO/G-F-Noah 6'5" 220 SO
C-Mouhameed 6'10" 238lbs FR/C-Quantice 6'9" 235 SO
F-Simmons 6'8" 218lbs FR/F-Williams 6'8" 190lbs SO
G-Mills 6'3" 181lbs SO/C-Moreno 7'0" 235lbs FR
G-Lathrem 6'5" 210lbs FR/G-Tow 6'5" 215lbs SR
No.
 
1996 had 9 guys that played in the NBA. Our current team will have what, 3 maybe? 4?

Not close but our team this year will be a damn good team by 2025 standards
I get that, but I'm not sure furure NBA talent automatically makes one team better than the other.
The college game is so different than the pro game and also, most of the guys that only play 1 year in college, then go pro, aren't playing at an NBA level when they're in college.
It would be different if SGA was playing at his current level when he was at UK, but he was just a shadow of himself.
The guys that came into college and dominated before going to the NBA, are pretty rare. I mean, Wall, Carmello, AD, Zion, Anthony Edwards, flagg, Towns etc… aren't common enough to buikd teams out of.
Give me a well coached college team with guys like Clayton, Martin, Oscar, Wayne Turner, Jodie Meeks, Oweh etc… and I would take them over all but a handful of freshmen.
Lastly, how many guys from that 96 team were more than just role players in the league? How many were stars? How many stuck around for 10 or 20 years? I really don’t know, just asking.
 
Nah, man, I'm old enough to remember that championsip and to remember that immediately after and ever since we've looked on that as not just a great UK team but one of THE great teams in college basketball history.
Oh I remember that season well too, they were crazy good, but they did lose 2 games, they weren't unbeatable and quite honestly, today's game has a lot more parity and the SEC is far tougher right now than it was back then. So many more teams and they all care more about college basketball than they did in the 90's.

Don't get me wrong here, the 96 team is better individually top to bottom, but shit, if this team goes 38-2, against this schedule, there is a conversations to be had.
 
G-Delk 6'1" 193lbs SR/G-Oweh 6'5" 212lbs SR
F-Walker 6'8" 224lbs SO/F-Diaboute 6'7" 215lbs JR
F-McCarty 6'11" 230lbs SR/F-Garrison 6'11" 250lbs JR
G-Anderson 6'6" 194lbs JR/G-Johnson 6'4" 180lbs FR
G-Mercer 6'7" 210lbs FR/G-Aberdeen 6'5" 190lbs SR
C-Pope 6'10" 235lbs SR/C-Jelavic 6'11" 220lbs FR
G-Epps 6'2" 182lbs JR/G-Lowe 6'2" 170lbs JR
G-Shepard 6'4" 189 JR/G-Chandler 6'5" 202 SO
G-Turner 6'2" 190lbs FR/G-Hawthorne 6'8" 175lbs FR
F-Prickett 6'9" 235lbs JR-RS/F-Potter 7'1" 220lbs JR-RS
G-F-Edwards 6'5" 205lbs SO/G-F-Noah 6'5" 220 SO
C-Mouhameed 6'10" 238lbs FR/C-Quantice 6'9" 235 SO
F-Simmons 6'8" 218lbs FR/F-Williams 6'8" 190lbs SO
G-Mills 6'3" 181lbs SO/C-Moreno 7'0" 235lbs FR
G-Lathrem 6'5" 210lbs FR/G-Tow 6'5" 215lbs SR
Zoid1, this is totally meaningless. What were you trying to prove. Every team in America could make a like comparison with their past players.
 
If you are comparing roster or results, not close. ‘96 was better.

But that’s a different question than who would win if they played. Example, look at UMass ‘96 roster. One great player and nothing else. And they beat the ‘96 Cats. So it can happen. But overall, no.
 
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I think your estimate of only 3-4 guys on this year's team playing in the NBA may be a little low when it's all said and done.
Honestly, the system Pope uses doesn’t require future NBA players to be successful. The screening and cutting gets guys open for good shots. His system depends on good shooters more than ultra athletes. And he will get much better talent than he did at BYU. We are more about great college players that create a great college team success.
 
Nah, man, I'm old enough to remember that championsip and to remember that immediately after and ever since we've looked on that as not just a great UK team but one of THE great teams in college basketball history.
The 96 team was when they all shaved their heads (after a loss?) and had 20-30 point runs against people

They also whipped out the denim uniforms (I bought the Cons) for the title game against Syracuse

Lots of full court trapping to almost Shamelessly wither and blow ppl out

Poor Wake Forrest (with Tim Duncan?) and Utah

Both seemed to run into UK into the NCAAs for like -- 4 straight seasons

UK going up like 35-3 and $hit

Almost uncomfortable like watching a bully push little kids around
 
I don't have to see to know. 96' would be 8 to 10 points better than 2015 Kentucky, 2012 Kentucky, and even this upcoming 2026 edition.

That team had Delk and Walker.

Delk was a 1st team All-American in a season that included guys like Kerry Kittles, Stephon Marbury, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, Steve Nash, and Marcus Camby and Shareef Abdur-Rahim as contenders for 1st team status.

Walker was good enough to go 6th in the draft in a 1996 Draft that is considered the second-greatest of all time, only behind the fabled 1984 MJ/Hakeem/Barkley/Stockton draft.

Mercer was a 1st Team All-American the next year. Anderson was playing like a 1st Team All-American in 1997 before the ACL injury. Those guys were hella talented for the 1996 team.

So you basically had four players whose talent was in consideration for All-American status over a two-year period.

Then you had McCarty, Epps, Turner, Pope, Mohammed, Edwards, Mills and Sheppard - with most of those players making up the bulk of the roster over the next two Final Four runs. Not to mention Padgett and Prickett in practice. By the time those guys graduated from UK, they had a combined five Final Fours between them (if you don't count Padgett on the 1996 team).

I mean, the team was so loaded that Pitino basically had to chase a former top 2 recruit and senior-to-be Rodrick Rhodes out of town in order to make room. Think about that.


Not even close from a raw talent level.

It's actually almost heretical to even ask the question.
Amen brother NOT EVEN CLOSE! 96 is the all time best team!
 
What are some of you guys smoking. 96 roster is better by a mile. Our current 1-10 doesn't win a single match up with 96, 1-10, NONE.


Here’s 5-10:
Pope - Quaintance
Epps - Johnson
Sheppard - Williams
Turner - Chandler
Mohammed - Moreno

I would certainly give you 1-5, but these matchups above, imo, favor the 2026 cats.
 
Here’s 5-10:
Pope - Quaintance
Epps - Johnson
Sheppard - Williams
Turner - Chandler
Mohammed - Moreno

I would certainly give you 1-5, but these matchups above, imo, favor the 2026 cats.
I'm still taking that 1996 bench.

Those guys had a combined 15 Elite 8s between the five of them, and a combined ten Final Fours. The only ones who might have an advantage on that bench for '26 is Moreno and JQ, but I'm not sure I'd take JQ over a 5th year senior Mark Pope. Sheppard is taking Williams' lunch money. Epps would out-smart JJ all game. Freshman Turner is giving sophomore Chandler hell.

Moreno over freshman Mohammed? Probably. That's about it as far as clear cut advantages for the '26 team.
 
Almost certainly not but with 96 we have the advantage of hindsight while 2026 is just arriving so I'm not going to close the door before we even walk through it.

On paper and with experience together in the system the answer is no though.
 
G-Delk 6'1" 193lbs SR/G-Oweh 6'5" 212lbs SR
F-Walker 6'8" 224lbs SO/F-Diaboute 6'7" 215lbs JR
F-McCarty 6'11" 230lbs SR/F-Garrison 6'11" 250lbs JR
G-Anderson 6'6" 194lbs JR/G-Johnson 6'4" 180lbs FR
G-Mercer 6'7" 210lbs FR/G-Aberdeen 6'5" 190lbs SR
C-Pope 6'10" 235lbs SR/C-Jelavic 6'11" 220lbs FR
G-Epps 6'2" 182lbs JR/G-Lowe 6'2" 170lbs JR
G-Shepard 6'4" 189 JR/G-Chandler 6'5" 202 SO
G-Turner 6'2" 190lbs FR/G-Hawthorne 6'8" 175lbs FR
F-Prickett 6'9" 235lbs JR-RS/F-Potter 7'1" 220lbs JR-RS
G-F-Edwards 6'5" 205lbs SO/G-F-Noah 6'5" 220 SO
C-Mouhameed 6'10" 238lbs FR/C-Quantice 6'9" 235 SO
F-Simmons 6'8" 218lbs FR/F-Williams 6'8" 190lbs SO
G-Mills 6'3" 181lbs SO/C-Moreno 7'0" 235lbs FR
G-Lathrem 6'5" 210lbs FR/G-Tow 6'5" 215lbs SR
No
 
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