Honestly don't see the buyout as a deterrent. I think the admins want to get the next hire right and don't see anyone available that's worth the move at this point. If this is a disappointing year I can see us parting ways but I'd hope they're keeping their eye on Stevens and what happens in boston over the next few years. I might go insane if we fire crean a year early, make a hire, only to have stevens leave the NBA for duke or UNC the following year.
Honestly don't see the buyout as a deterrent. I think the admins want to get the next hire right and don't see anyone available that's worth the move at this point. If this is a disappointing year I can see us parting ways but I'd hope they're keeping their eye on Stevens and what happens in boston over the next few years. I might go insane if we fire crean a year early, make a hire, only to have stevens leave the NBA for duke or UNC the following year.
I'm not comparing him as a player to Andrew just his numbers were similar. I'm not sold that Blackmon is leaving after this year, not if he doesn't drastically improve his defense. If he does leave I could see Johnson moving to the 2g depending on what guards we bring in next year. I think he's smart enough to play the point. Crean's always kind of had those shooting mentality PGs anyways, and he's a pretty good shooter. He's not as quick as yogi but he's quick enough to be successful on the college level, not to mention he was hobbled for the later half of the year after injuring his knee against OSU. I think his numbers considering our post players last year paint him in a better light. He'll have a senior Hartman, Bryant, Holt, Juan Morgan and who ever comes in which will likely be a 5 man class at least. Priller won't see the floor, hardly ever, Zeisloft graduates this year, but him surrounded by the guys I listed and possibly Blackmon is a pretty decent starting 5. Hard to look that far ahead though as Crean always has a transfer or two, he himself could not be here so you never know. I like him this year as a backup to Yogi though, will be interested to see what kind of jump he makes.
LAST YEAR he fed the ball to absolute crap for big in every way. Great point..that can really screw up a guard.
However, Holt is pretty good, and Bryant by default is wins better than Perea. Bryant has said h es s very likely at IU for two or three years: with multiple summer school sessions that gets our players close to or with a degree.
Johnson should improve in large part because our big will too.
well, if he came into a better situation he'd be 77-49.
that would be a very respectable record in the nfl.
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Two. Sampson and Creepy Clappy. I wouldn't allow my young daughter around that pedophile looking freak!
Holy crap, your creepy pedophile coach was seen kissing your boy on the lips in front of thousands. Sick.
If you think the AD rookie prank was bad, you don't want to know what nfl rookies go through.
I've never seen AD or Cal lip kiss another dude...
Sick freak.
P.S. - were you even alive in 87, or does your granddaddy tell you about the "good ol days" in the 80's?
Agree with the analysis, but disagree about Perea!
If Bryant is another Dakari Johnson, he would be a huge upgrade over Perea.
Lost in all of the genuine basketball discusssion above.....................................an IU fan actually complaining to UK fans about us presenting baseless accusations about their program, fans, and coach as fact.
Oh the irony.
Yeah its pretty odd to talk to a specific person about senseless drivel they posted rather then me bring up what senseless drivel some random IU fan said at some other point in time in some other conversation or thread. What was I thinking?
You are an IU fan, therefore you don't think on a rational basis.
At least he doesn't french kiss his son. (somebody post the pervy Clappy photo)
Does that mean the video is real, and not a UL/IU re-touched, screen shot, fakeroo?
Wow.
cheating scandals
A-Hope
Drugs
Alcohol arrests
Suspensions
Multiple players being "creaned"
Historically bad in court results
Players drunk driving and running over each other
Fake ID arrests
Cutting down nets after losses
Blow by handshakes
Scared to play UK outside of your cracker box arena, then again you should be given the past 20+ years
Comete irrelevance
Dirtiest program of the last 10 years not named UCONN
A-Hope
Drugs
Alcohol arrests
Suspensions
Multiple players being "creaned"
Historically bad in court results
Players drunk driving and running over each other
Fake ID arrests
Cutting down nets after losses
Blow by handshakes
Scared to play UK outside of your cracker box arena, then again you should be given the past 20+ years
Comete irrelevance
Dirtiest program of the last 10 years not named UCONN
The only nonsense I have seen is the few times I have gone to Peegs. The delusion of IU fans posting there is of epic proportions.
For sure!
There are delusional posters and sane ones on all boards.
That sums it up for me. Out of this thread!
Cheers, all.
What's not true? I'd love to see you attempt to explain away any of the points.
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"Some" random IU fan? Are you kidding me? The majority of your fanbase constantly slings junk about Cal and UK, with zero proof whatsoever. Maybe you never have, I don't know.
Who you were adressing and why wasn't the point of my comment. I though it was pretty easy to see that I was merely pointing out the irony of an IU fan complaining about unfounded accusations against their program/coach.
"Some" random IU fan? Are you kidding me? The majority of your fanbase constantly slings junk about Cal and UK, with zero proof whatsoever. Maybe you never have, I don't know.
Who you were adressing and why wasn't the point of my comment. I though it was pretty easy to see that I was merely pointing out the irony of an IU fan complaining about unfounded accusations against their program/coach.
That's pretty much what every free board is. Generally people who pay for recruiting info are more inclined to discuss basketball rather than flame and make pointless posts.
Well I'm not sure why you'd bring it up. Attacking me for others transgressions is a bit ridiculous.
So you're only relevant when you win a championship? Was UK not relevant last year? Was UK not relevant between 98-12? Was UK not relevant in the 80's? I get the flame posts as they can be fun and entertaining but at least be smart and original about it.
Whether you or any other IU fan want to accept it, Indiana basketball is a shell of what the program use to be. And Crean is a complete joke who has been an abysmal failure. I can only hope he stays there the next 10 years and drives the program completely in the ground.
I agree the program is down right now and that Crean is not the guy, abysmal failure is a little much though. He won the first B1G championship since 02 and first out right since 93, the rest has left much to be desired but he's not been a complete failure, just hasn't lived up to expectations. But to say the program has been irrelevant since 1987 is pretty far off base, the program was still really good and very solid in the early 90s, the 02 final 4, Sampson actually had very competitive teams his 2 years. I still would have gladly taken Cal back then before Davis or Sampson. The Davis hire was terribly short sighted as well as the Sampson hire.
I never said IU has been irrelevant since 1987. In fact, through 2002, it was a solid program. But since the Sampson debacle and Crean as its coach, it has slipped off the precipice.
You did not. But you replied to my post to the guy who said it so I put it in the post. Sad I even post this but was a junior in high school in 2002 and convinced my parents to let me go out and watch the title game on a school night. I used the line " I don't know the next time we'll get to the championship game" as a reason to go, yet inside I thought that was a ridiculous statement. How wrong/right I was at the same time.
Only nonsense I see is candy stripes, net cutting after losses, a creepy coach who kisses men on the mouth, and a program who thinks it's an elite, yet hasn't mattered nationally since the 1980's
Indiana storms the floor and has had dedicated trophy cases to Sweet 16 teams.
Nothing more needs to be said.
Nothing more needs to be said.
Again candy striped fruit cakes... John Calipari was 29 years old the last time iu won a title, and those iu players are nearing their AARP cards and discounts.
Don't forget the UK SHRINE they built over a December buzzer beater at home. The true definition of a desperate, has been, destroyed program
Honest question, is the fan base ready for Crean to go? Who do you all think will replace him? Are people still thinking Stephens?
Brother in law is an IU fan, so I usually try and keep it respectful. Not always, but...
I'm not sure if you're slow or what. Indiana had final fours in 92 and 02, an elite eight in 93, had a championship caliber team in 94 until Alan Henderson broke his leg.
Oh yeah. Some still think he can turn things around but the majority are ready for a change. Stevens is a wish, it might come true but I don't know. I don't see anyone worth it right now. Maybe see how A. Miller does this year, maybe Marshall but he's got the same personality as Crean and high demands from what I read. Stevens is #1 but he's still in the middle of their rebuild. Maybe he gets fed up maybe not, but I say he's worth the wait. Either way they have to get the next hire right or it truly feels like we'll be doomed for mediocrity.
Only thing I see that's slow is indiana basketball teams, and Indiana fans who come to UK boards begging for recognition. Louisville, our little brother has passed lowly Indiana in program standards.
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