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What's happened to all of the D-1 in-state talent? I know that we have Willis and Hawkins, but what's happened to all of the great players from the state that we had in the past? Any thoughts?
And what's his name from Trinity that's going to Loserville,, was a borderline 5*.. But he was going to Loserville cometh hell or high water..
Well there is D1 talent but we dont need D1 talent we need high end major D1 talent. And the state has never produced studs, like one per decade. Ray Spalding going to UL may or may not be. Right now he isnt by any stretch.
I watched Ray early in the season at Knott Central and a few times on TV.. Not impressed either.. He takes off plays like Willie would way too much.. If he had a high end motor,, he'd be a good player..
Justice kid is a helluva a shooter this year going to Vandy too. Next year you have Goodin, doesn't sound like Cal is interested. There is always talent.....to Luddite's point it is just not always major college/NBA quality. I will say I love Ky kids playing for UK.......most of us a prolly in that camp thou.
From Knott here.. Watched Cam for 4 year's.. Gonna be a good get for Vandy.. I think though that his teammate,, Evan Hall,, will have the better college career though.. Kid is good..
Maybe that's because Russell never actually played in state, at least not since age 14.
Russell played his High School and AAU ball out of state. To him Louisville was essentially just the place where he visited his parents on holidays and vacations. He was not part of the local hoops scene and got all his seasoning against out of state competition.
In terms of the level of true in-state talent produced by the Kentucky high school system? ...Well, unfortunately it's gotten embarrassingly awful compared to our surrounding states, and seems to keep getting worse as the years go on. Can't even try to defend it anymore.
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Goodin is a good player,not knocking the kids game at all but he isn't ready for a high end school like UK.If he did come,fans shouldn't expect immediate contributions.Again,I'm not knocking the kid at all.I hope he goes to a school that will allow him to develop and have patience with him.
Michigan is on Goodin among other good schools. That seems about right, he could go there and sit and maybe be ready his soph/jr years. Seems athletic enough but last i saw his J was broke...
I'm not going to look it up, but a question: If you took your pick of any 13 players from the state of Kentucky (who played their HS basketball in the state of Kentucky- so Russell does not count) for the last 10 years, would you have a top 20 team?
If the question the OP is asking is "what happened to all the good players who used to come out of the state?", well, good question, even if it's one that's been discussed here a lot. If the question the OP is asking is "what happened to all of the in-state players who used to be on UK's roster?", well, the answer is in the first interpretation of the question. There aren't many options for UK to choose from, especially not now.
It's not clear which the OP is getting at.
If the question the OP is asking is "what happened to all the good players who used to come out of the state?", well, good question, even if it's one that's been discussed here a lot. If the question the OP is asking is "what happened to all of the in-state players who used to be on UK's roster?", well, the answer is in the first interpretation of the question. There aren't many options for UK to choose from, especially not now.
It's not clear which the OP is getting at.
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Yes, I was referring about high D-1 talent such as guys in the past like Givens, Lee, Hurt, etc. I had totally forgotten about Russell but even the city of Louisville is not producing many high D-1 players as in the past.
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I'll play along and say, yes, although not by much. Shelvin Mack, Darius Miller, Scotty Hopson, Anthony Hickey and Quentin Snider all fit within the 10 year window, and I'd think that group on the same team should be enough to get you in the Top 20.
Still, your point is correct. It is downright shocking how awful the state's high school ball has gotten. Our surrounding states have produced a parade of NBA players during that decade, yet we're wondering if we can scrounge together enough for one Top 20 college team. And that traditional Ind/Ky all star series has become such a preposterous joke that they need to either cancel it or re-name it the varsity vs. jv series, as that's what it looks like. Don't know how a state that loves college basketball SO incredibly much can become this poor at producing people who can actually play it.
And isn't it telling that the one and only exceptional player with a Ky address in recent years (Russell) is the one sent away at an early age to develop against better competition? Have to wonder how much difference that made. Would Russell be the same player if he'd stayed in Louisville?
I'll play along and say, yes, although not by much. Shelvin Mack, Darius Miller, Scotty Hopson, Anthony Hickey and Quentin Snider all fit within the 10 year window, and I'd think that group on the same team should be enough to get you in the Top 20.
Still, your point is correct. It is downright shocking how awful the state's high school ball has gotten. Our surrounding states have produced a parade of NBA players during that decade, yet we're wondering if we can scrounge together enough for one Top 20 college team. And that traditional Ind/Ky all star series has become such a preposterous joke that they need to either cancel it or re-name it the varsity vs. jv series, as that's what it looks like. Don't know how a state that loves college basketball SO incredibly much can become this poor at producing people who can actually play it.
And isn't it telling that the one and only exceptional player with a Ky address in recent years (Russell) is the one sent away at an early age to develop against better competition? Have to wonder how much difference that made. Would Russell be the same player if he'd stayed in Louisville?
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What is this even supposed to mean? The answer to your question is, obviously, "a lot", because a team doesn't go to consecutive FF's without talent. Kaminsky, Dekker, Hayes, Koenig= legit college talent.
But if you're trying to imply that UK is somehow missing out on the next Frank Kaminsky because it's not recruiting 3 star in-state talent, well, please tell me which guys have come out of the state the last 20 years to become 1st team AA's? I don't seem to remember them. If you're trying to say that UK should tone down its recruiting to look for those hidden gems (like Kaminsky), well, that just worked out wonderfully when Tubby was here.
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Seemed to be that UK, or UL for that matter, could always count on at least one really talented player from the state that could come in and contribute right away. Doesn't seem as if those type of players are out there anymore from Kentucky.
Not that you said any otherwise reallly but Quentin Snider has lots to prove right now he is slightly rich mans Saul Smith. Hickey ended up better than advertised. Hopson probably the opposite he didnt play like a top 10 guy. ON this note Goodin is visiting Xavier right now.
Agreed. To be honest, I wasn't sure whether to include Snider in that post. When I thought about mj's question, the three names that popped in my head were Mack, Miller and Hopson. But since you can't play with only three I figured I needed a couple other names, the best I could come up with were Hickey and Snider.
Yeah. Instead UK had Aaron Harrison, and Devin Booker(1st Round). Not to mention he wanted to go to UL but couldn't get guarenteed minutes from Rick Pitino. Russell I doubt wanted to play in a platoon system.
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