WOW...don't know where that 183 came from, still butt whoopings all...avg. outscored 42-20.5. Not a pretty look.
If we land at 8-4 you have to call it a good year -- right ?
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In 1 game we never had the lead — not at any point , and the other we gave up a 35 point unanswered run .. no way you can weave or dream those 2 as anything positive. You just can’t
You mean getting best an average of 3 TDs isn’t “ coming close “ .. the 4 losses were horrible
No, the UGA and Bama games were not good ones. But the UT game was a 1 score game and that fake punt took all the air out of UK.
We will never be great until Stoops gets his pudgy little fingers off the offense. You have to score in today’s game.
8-4 is a great year to me - that means we beat a top 10 Louisville on the road and go to a Florida bowl around New Years
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be competitive …. 11 years in no one should blow you off the field
We don't pound ray...... If anything we need to ride ray more. Now a defensive overhaul on the other hand has been needed for years.
It's so weird. Before the season everyone sits and says yeah 8 wins is good at kentucky. We can live with 8. But then during the season people want the coach fired and burn down the program because 8 wins wont cut it. Now, we have not even won 8 yet but you can already feel how mad everyone is.
8-4 at UK vs our schedule isn't a sad anything. It's a good year, just not great. Still confused at uk fans who continue to discredit what is a probably a top 10 Mizzou team.
Entering the season we knew wr depth and cb depth would be an issue. Add in key defensive injuries and safeties going from a strength to weakness; and we're right where people thought we would be.
Now....let's see if we actually make 8-4. Much work yet to be done
8-4 would be Par to me. Mizzou turned out to be a much better team than folks thought. Legit top 10 IMO. In fact Mizzou is the team we all thought we might be preseason.
Yeah, but you said all 4 losses were blow outs. The Tennessee game was absolutely not that. Missouri was borderline. The other two losses were a disgrace.
I don’t know how much more we could “pound Ray” than we already do. He was good in the Missouri game, just not enough to overcome our defense being unable to stop anything that night, but in our other losses, he had 15 carries for 59 yards, 16 carries for 42 yards, and 12 carries for 26 yards. Quite simply, if you’re a one dimensional offense, good teams in the SEC can usually take that away from you. The answer at this point isn’t to triple down on running the ball. It’s to simplify our scheme a bit so that college players can actually run it efficiently, and to increase our tempo a bit as a result.
Good teams aren’t happy with it though. Let’s be a good team.
Tough to win on Saturdays when you have the #20 recruiting class in the country and yet it is only #12 in the conference.
we will not finish at 8-4 I believe it is very probable that we will finish 6-6
Wonder if my IOWA friends, who were rabid a few years ago about Stoops replacing Ferentz, still wanting him, when Ferentz he calls it a day.
Iowa fans better be very careful for trying to get rid of Ferentz, can you say Nebraska light if so.
Not that hard to win on a lot of Saturdays even with that. Our midmajors are no match. Louisville hasn't matched us in recruiting lately. Vanderbilt rarely, if ever, does. Missouri and Mississippi State are at best equal. South Carolina is maybe a bit above, generally, but it's very close. The only regular opponent we have that is significantly ahead of us in recruiting is Georgia.
I mean uaually we have 4 scrubs (should be auto wins)
Vandy (it's Vandy)
SC and Mizzou (we've dominated overall)
Florida (dominated as of late)
Miss st (we're a better program than State)
Georgia ( the rest of the country can't beat them either)
TN (can't get out our own way)
And UL (who we've dominated as of late)
Didn't include Bama because we don't see them that often.
Bowl eligible 6-8 wins should almost be automatic with the opponents we have... We have 2 usual losses one because they're the best team in the country, the other because we always play scared and act like we don't want to win.
6-8 wins isn't good enough for where we are/ should've been. I'll take 8 after slapping around poor little UL who thinks they're something after slapping around little sisters of the poor every week, the UK fans that think that we've been historically bad and 6-8 games is good enough for little ole Kentucky miss the big picture. We blew a 10 win regular season because we can't get up for games that's coaching and some changes need to be made, maybe not the head man but our assistants save Coen and boulware are probably bottoms in the SEC can't have that. We pay pretty well for assistants go get someone who can teach and recruit and bury the Mizzou/USC/MSUs of the world before they catch up (which has already started).
Vandy (it's Vandy)
SC and Mizzou (we've dominated overall)
Florida (dominated as of late)
Miss st (we're a better program than State)
Georgia ( the rest of the country can't beat them either)
TN (can't get out our own way)
And UL (who we've dominated as of late)
Didn't include Bama because we don't see them that often.
Bowl eligible 6-8 wins should almost be automatic with the opponents we have... We have 2 usual losses one because they're the best team in the country, the other because we always play scared and act like we don't want to win.
6-8 wins isn't good enough for where we are/ should've been. I'll take 8 after slapping around poor little UL who thinks they're something after slapping around little sisters of the poor every week, the UK fans that think that we've been historically bad and 6-8 games is good enough for little ole Kentucky miss the big picture. We blew a 10 win regular season because we can't get up for games that's coaching and some changes need to be made, maybe not the head man but our assistants save Coen and boulware are probably bottoms in the SEC can't have that. We pay pretty well for assistants go get someone who can teach and recruit and bury the Mizzou/USC/MSUs of the world before they catch up (which has already started).
We are in the midst of the programs' greatest period since the 50's. 8-4 with a shot at 9 wins with a bowl win does not hurt the cause in any way. It is a sad indictment on your grasp of reality and lack of perspective.
Yeah, lol at our best sustained success since the 50's. Pounded our way to two 10 win seasons but I guess they were too boring for you.
No one is immune from being blown off the field by top teams. This even includes other top teams.
This is utter foolishness about the defense. We have been quite good on that side for awhile now. We lost the entire defensive backfield from last year and that has been evident but it doesn't mean toss the baby out with the bathwater.
We've been good at limiting offensive possessions for the opponent that has over inflated those stats quite a bit. We've always been pretty atrocious on D especially 3rd down. (Save 2018) when we had our only legit pass rusher.
During the Benny and most of the Crod years you can credit as much of the defensive stats to the offense running clock and shortening the game as you can the defense being decent.
You see the effects this year especially, when you can't shorten the game with running and the defense is on the field for extended periods.
Do you have any clue how many times we have actually won 8 games in the last 70 years? I believe Collier never did it, Bradshaw did not, Ray did not, Curci did it twice which we landed on probation for, Claiborne did it once, Curry never did, Mumme never did, Morris did not, Brooks twice, Joker did not, Stoops has 3 times plus 3 7 win seasons. So that is six times(no probation involved) since 1951 and Stoops has three of them, 2 of them 10 win seasons. Since the 50's 4-5 wins is more accurate whether anyone accepts it or not.
You count UL as a scrub and then distinguish them again. You say they should be auto wins but this has only become true under Stoops. I can remember losing too many of those over the years. We are very close to Vandy historically. We've only dominated USC and Mizzou since Stoops, same for UF, no real grounds for the MSU claim especially in Starkville, UGA and Bama are elite, TN always has a talent advantage, UL has only been dominated since Stoops. Mizzou and it appears UL are actually quite good this year.
Against UT we never had the lead , not at any point .. and they had he ball last and ran the clock out instead of adding 7 more to make it a bigger spread . It wasnt that close most of the game , And in a game where you give up 35 unanswered on your home field .. thats a blow out . The avagre of the 4 losses is a 21 point spread . It was bad .
We're talking recent history. (last 5 years or so) not 20. But never the less we would have 0-1 loss playing ULs schedule too.
Aa things are now, 2 new members entering the conference next fall, no more decisions, we don't know how many conference games we will have after 24, so predicting a record for 25 forward is just a guess.
But with 12 teams in the layoff that opens the door for 2 loss teams and maybe a 3 loss team to get in the playoffs but you better have some ig wins to get in with 3 losses. I just don't see a 4 loss team getting in, so if your goal is to get in the playoffs I think a team has to shoot for at least 9-3. If the goal is to get to a bowl 8-4 will land you in one.
But with 12 teams in the layoff that opens the door for 2 loss teams and maybe a 3 loss team to get in the playoffs but you better have some ig wins to get in with 3 losses. I just don't see a 4 loss team getting in, so if your goal is to get in the playoffs I think a team has to shoot for at least 9-3. If the goal is to get to a bowl 8-4 will land you in one.
No. If we don’t beat UL, Florida is the only team we’ve beat who has a chance to go .500 or one game above. That’s nothing to be proud of. The goal is to advance and we aren’t doing that.
8-4 a a florida bowl is a great season for the Kentucky Program. Most likely pits you against a ranked team in a bowl game where you can get a signature win.
