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lose Briscoe and Keep Bam I'd say we got the better end of the deal. I think Bams lack of Offense will have scouts tell him to head back to UK one more year. If we could grab Bamba and a few more guards next years team could be very very good
 
I'm not holding my breath on Bam returning. I'd love it and yeah there is an outside shot he returns but I'd put if at less than 2-3% chance.
 
I'm not holding my breath on Bam returning. I'd love it and yeah there is an outside shot he returns but I'd put if at less than 2-3% chance.
All depends on the combine. I'm hoping he comes back, won't be disappointed if he doesn't
 
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Before Briscoe, I was optimistic about Bam coming back.

I thought he would see where he could get his stock to, and if it wasn't lottery level, then he'd come back.

Briscoe was a harsh reminder--a lot of kids want to be a pro. And there's nothing wrong with that. I now think Bam simply wants to know he'll go in the 1st round. And I absolutely think that he will.
 
Bam is gone. Don't kid yourself. Stop even thinking that is an option. Next year will be tough but who knows, college basketball will be way down.
 
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Bam is gone. The only thing to cling to is a rumor that he wants to be a lottery pick and if that looks unlikely he will return. Don't count on it. The last pick of the 1st round is guaranteed money and he will take it.
 
Bam is icing, it's not really that big deal.

We are so loaded inside, not sure we will change all that much.
 
Bam I'm sure is on the fence. Cal preaches positionless basketball. I'm sure he would have no problem playing the five but I highly doubt bamba said he would never play the 5. When he gets to the league that's exactly where he will play.
 
My gut feeling is that if Briscoe hired an agent when he knows he is likely to not be drafted, that Bam not hiring an agent shows that the thought is in his head about coming back.

Obviously Bam not hiring an agent means there's an answer he wants to hear, and if he does not hear it he will come back next year. And not hiring an agent also shows his awareness for his stock and what he might need to improve going forward.
 
That is just stupid.

We can be loaded inside, and I'm not sure why you think it's stupid? Did Bam impress the crap out of you this year? Did you watch him? No offensive skills, bad hands, no control in traffic, no rim protection, not a good offensive rebounder. He's around 6'8 and I'm just not sure why so many are overrating him. I think it's just his size. Well I hate to break it to you, but Bamba is worlds better than Bam. That's the one we need and yea, we're pretty loaded inside. Bam would be icing, but not necessary.

****before someone says it, no, bam doesn't suck. He's just overrated. ***
 
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The one thing about the Bam situation is he is leaving a lot of money out there by not going ahead and signing with an agent. He can't do an autograph tour like the others, which they can get $20 and $30 each autograph. Times that by a few thousand and that's a lot of cheddar. Also, no endorsements deals and even the local ones pay several thousand each. While obviously this is small time compared to the millions he can make in the league, after you factor what he will lose in taxes and what not 40 or 50 grand helps a lot. I just get a really weird and giddy feeling that Bam is coming back.
 
We can be loaded inside, and I'm not sure why you think it's stupid? Did Bam impress the crap out of you this year? Did you watch him? No offensive skills, bad hands, no control in traffic, no rim protection, not a good offensive rebounder. He's around 6'8 and I'm just not sure why so many are overrating him. I think it's just his size. Well I hate to break it to you, but Bamba is worlds better than Bam. That's the one we need and yea, we're pretty loaded inside. Bam would be icing, but not necessary.

****before someone says it, no, bam doesn't suck. He's just overrated. ***

Damn. I must have missed that Bamba signing.
 
The one thing about the Bam situation is he is leaving a lot of money out there by not going ahead and signing with an agent. He can't do an autograph tour like the others, which they can get $20 and $30 each autograph. Times that by a few thousand and that's a lot of cheddar. Also, no endorsements deals and even the local ones pay several thousand each. While obviously this is small time compared to the millions he can make in the league, after you factor what he will lose in taxes and what not 40 or 50 grand helps a lot. I just get a really weird and giddy feeling that Bam is coming back.

He can get that money any time. Rememeber their age. He leaves next year that 50K locally is there.

Bam is waiting on a first round guarantee and he'll get it somewhere between 24-30ish in sure. He's probably gone.
 
We can be loaded inside, and I'm not sure why you think it's stupid? Did Bam impress the crap out of you this year? Did you watch him? No offensive skills, bad hands, no control in traffic, no rim protection, not a good offensive rebounder. He's around 6'8 and I'm just not sure why so many are overrating him. I think it's just his size. Well I hate to break it to you, but Bamba is worlds better than Bam. That's the one we need and yea, we're pretty loaded inside. Bam would be icing, but not necessary.

****before someone says it, no, bam doesn't suck. He's just overrated. ***
101 dunks impressed me. Playing out of his position all year to help the needs of the team also impressed me too. I would gladly take him for another year. I'm not sure you know that much about basketball if you honestly think he is overrated. Was he the best big in country? No, but he was far from overrated. Bolden was overrated! SKJ, Gabriel also overrated based on their hype. Again, Bam was far from overrated.
 
He can get that money any time. Rememeber their age. He leaves next year that 50K locally is there.

Bam is waiting on a first round guarantee and he'll get it somewhere between 24-30ish in sure. He's probably gone.
Not really. Peak time for those autograph sessions and local appearances and endorsements is right after the season ends. Sure he will be able to make some of it back overtime, but if he is as hell bent on getting to the league now like many of you think, he is giving up several thousand dollars. I don't know many 18 - 19 yo kids willing to just lose out on that kind of cash for no real reason. I think he realizes he could move up in the draft after workouts, but likely not as high as he would like to go. He is smart enough to see that next season he can play a lot more at the 4, which is where he will play in the NBA. He can come back, work on his game and likely make the lottery next season. More money and more guarantees.
 
We can be loaded inside, and I'm not sure why you think it's stupid? Did Bam impress the crap out of you this year? Did you watch him? No offensive skills, bad hands, no control in traffic, no rim protection, not a good offensive rebounder. He's around 6'8 and I'm just not sure why so many are overrating him. I think it's just his size. Well I hate to break it to you, but Bamba is worlds better than Bam. That's the one we need and yea, we're pretty loaded inside. Bam would be icing, but not necessary.

****before someone says it, no, bam doesn't suck. He's just overrated. ***

So a player that can't get rebounds, with bad hands, no offensive skills and can't block shots is a first round pick? Or is he a NBA player that is not good enough for Kentucky?
 
So a player that can't get rebounds, with bad hands, no offensive skills and can't block shots is a first round pick? Or is he a NBA player that is not good enough for Kentucky?

meh, you can use your argument back right at you. Yes he is first round pick. Bamba is top 3 pick, at least top 5.
 
meh, you can use your argument back right at you. Yes he is first round pick. Bamba is top 3 pick, at least top 5.

Meh, you can use your argument back right at you. Yes he is a first round pick but Skal is top 3 pick, at least top 5.
 
Meh, you can use your argument back right at you. Yes he is a first round pick but Skal is top 3 pick, at least top 5.

Actually media has done redraft and has him pretty much in top 5 again. His problem was he didn't play 2 years before getting to college. A lot of assumption on his condition and game awareness.

So, unless Bamba has been injured past two season we are not aware of, it's a poor comparison.
 
Actually media has done redraft and has him pretty much in top 5 again. His problem was he didn't play 2 years before getting to college. A lot of assumption on his condition and game awareness.

So, unless Bamba has been injured past two season we are not aware of, it's a poor comparison.

And that was good for Kentucky how?
 
lose Briscoe and Keep Bam I'd say we got the better end of the deal. I think Bams lack of Offense will have scouts tell him to head back to UK one more year. If we could grab Bamba and a few more guards next years team could be very very good

Agreed.
 
and you missed the point. Did i say it was good for Kentucky? I just gave you an example of your poor comparison skill.

How is it poor. Just because you say Bamba is top 3 draft pick doesn't make it true. Doesn't make Bamba better than a soph Bam. You are the one with the poor comparison skills.
 
meh, you can use your argument back right at you. Yes he is first round pick. Bamba is top 3 pick, at least top 5.
lol, why because some talking head said so? I'll wait and actually let him play a couple college games or maybe even a season before I consider him a top 3 pick. Would love for him to be that and a lot more, but dominating hs kids and being a dominant college player and top draft pick are 2 very different levels.
 
How is it poor. Just because you say Bamba is top 3 draft pick doesn't make it true. Doesn't make Bamba better than a soph Bam. You are the one with the poor comparison skills.

Man, you aren't smart. Did you forget what YOU said. Your argument was BAM is a first rounder. Based off expert/media. Same people has Bamba as a top 5 pick, probably update will see him go higher based off recent performance.

Second, you have yet to make an argument why sophomore Bam would be better? Bamba has things that are elite in NBA standard. What is Bam's elite things are? that would translate even at NBA level? When you don't have those elite "characteristic" one's growth will be limited.
 
Man, you aren't smart. Did you forget what YOU said. Your argument was BAM is a first rounder. Based off expert/media. Same people has Bamba as a top 5 pick, probably update will see him go higher based off recent performance.

Second, you have yet to make an argument why sophomore Bam would be better? Bamba has things that are elite in NBA standard. What is Bam's elite things are? that would translate even at NBA level? When you don't have those elite "characteristic" one's growth will be limited.

Where did I say he was a first rounder? Please include quotes.
 
Man, you aren't smart. Did you forget what YOU said. Your argument was BAM is a first rounder. Based off expert/media. Same people has Bamba as a top 5 pick, probably update will see him go higher based off recent performance.

Second, you have yet to make an argument why sophomore Bam would be better? Bamba has things that are elite in NBA standard. What is Bam's elite things are? that would translate even at NBA level? When you don't have those elite "characteristic" one's growth will be limited.
Bamba has better length, but Bam currently has the far better and more ready NBA body and skills. I'm 5'11 and weigh 20 pounds less than a 7'0 guy. Until Bamba puts on some major size and strength he will get bullied around in college and the league. Bam has a huge experience advantage at this level at least. He has actually played a year and had a pretty successful one at that. His post up ability is far superior to Bamba at this point. Obviously, Bamba can come in and work his ass off and catch up, but to act like he is better than Bam now is just sheer ignorance. The only area he likely has any advantage at this point is in shot blocking. That's mainly because of his insane length. Beleive me, I want him to be great, but I am not delusional enough to think he's at Bam's level yet. Especially without ever playing a college game or going through a college practice.
 
I don't think I've ever predicted anything on this board from day one. I mean never. It's no big deal but I'm willing to predict that Bam is NOT coming back. I'll be elated if I'm wrong and feel free to save this and rub it in if he does in fact come back. I just don't see it at all and if he doesn't come back I wish him well.
 
Bamba has better length, but Bam currently has the far better and more ready NBA body and skills. I'm 5'11 and weigh 20 pounds less than a 7'0 guy. Until Bamba puts on some major size and strength he will get bullied around in college and the league. Bam has a huge experience advantage at this level at least. He has actually played a year and had a pretty successful one at that. His post up ability is far superior to Bamba at this point. Obviously, Bamba can come in and work his ass off and catch up, but to act like he is better than Bam now is just sheer ignorance. The only area he likely has any advantage at this point is in shot blocking. That's mainly because of his insane length. Beleive me, I want him to be great, but I am not delusional enough to think he's at Bam's level yet. Especially without ever playing a college game or going through a college practice.

ah discussion point, thanks.

Comparing to you doesn't mean much. Doesn't that mean you are fat? :p BTW, Anthony davis wasn't much more than Bamba once he got to UK. Same can be said for Nerlens and other tall bigs. He has time to gain weight. He just need another 10 - 15 lbs by end of season next year.

Bam doesn't have Major size. You have to understand, he has size/length of shorter end of PF. So in college, at least at times he matches up well but once you get to tourney with top tier group, he becomes much more uncomfortable.

His post up ability isn't better than Bamba. Bamba will have much easier time transitioning into post. He is big and long, he wont' have to adjust to opponents. Bam will.

You are making too much out of 1 year of experience. Are you telling me Anthony Davis as a rookie in NBA wasn't top 50 player? Anthony Davis won POY award and everything else. John Wall and Demarcus were both top 5 in college their freshman year. Kat was also top 5.

Do i want Bam to stay, of course. But he is an icing on the cake. He doesn't have that elite skill set that we can rely on. Also you said "he is only better at shot blocking.." like that's exactly why he is major importance and Bam is an icing.
 
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