If Cal was still our Coach, how many losses would we have ?

[North Carolina Blue Wildcat]

If he was our coach this year, I wouldn’t know how many losses we would’ve had. I was done watching the $hit show he was putting on the floor each night. So grateful he left…

 

[Bkocats]

Good thing we don’t have to worry about it

 

[OmahaCats]

I truly believe we would have lost to Duke, Gonzaga, Florida and maybe even the Louisville game. Close tight games like those are the kind of games we lost the last few years.

You have to let it go man

 

[K_TIME]

Here is the roster we’d have had

PG- wagner and Perry….perry never play
Sg- Fland ..-maybe portal…depth
sf- Knox snd Richmond
Pf- Adou and he’d play Big Z
C- Quantance and Somto…Big Z here as well

Welch was leaving regardless to be replaced by Payne

Eons of 50-60 Pt rock fests…major turnover issues and poor floor spacing

Easily loss to Duke…Zags Pg would have eaten Wagner snd Fland alive …and we’d lose one of Ohio St or Clemson.

Sec would easily be 7 losses or more

So a solid 10 loss season and five ish seed in ncaa is all I’d imagine

 

[bbncal02]

Four. for sure

1. Duke (we barely won with Pope- Cal would've tightened up like a snare drum)
2. Zaga- (see above)
3. Clemson
4. UF

I'd say Cal finally would've pulled one out over OSU because Bradshaw probably stays here if Cal didn't leave.

We'd be going "Well, we aren't bad, but...." and trying to figure out if we could turn it up a notch.

I'm glad Pope is here. We just need to make some noise in the SEC. Saturday was a good start. Need more now.

 

[BlueSince92]

I don't think there's any way on Earth any Cal team outside of '10, '12, '15, or possibly '17 would have been ready for Duke or Gonzaga as they were when they played them this year. And the last five seasons including this season Cal is no longer capable of putting together '10, '12, '15, or '17 -level squads imho.

I think those two would absolutely have been losses.

I think Clemson would still have been a loss because Cal teams definitely don't have that toughness early, combined with Clemson executing quite well even if they did also make more than their fair share of blunders that the refs just also didn't call.

In his favor though, there is a certain type of toughness that Cal does tend to instill in his generally post-weak teams after a Clemson-type physical manhandling. I think that with that plus a style of play that is actually just better suited, Cal would have had pretty good odds of beating Ohio State.

Florida is also a team manned and playing on a level that post-2019 Cal teams generally don't rise to. However, they do play a style clean enough that puts them in a category where most recent Cal teams are good for at least one-to-two wins a season that they don't seem to be up for in advance. So I'll give them Florida as a hypothetical possibility.

So at a maximum one marquee win at this point (UF) two decent wins (UL and Ohio State).

But also at a minimum three losses because in addition to having pretty much no chance against either Duke or Gonzaga, a Cal team would have been essentially guaranteed one bonehead loss minimum. Wright State, Western, and Georgia State are all good candidates for that. 1-2 from that group wouldn't be impossible although I don't think Cal lets them go 0-3. But I do not think there's any strong chance Cal gets out of the whole bunny portion of our nonconference schedule without pulling a Cal.

So imo 11-3 at very best with one Junior marquee win total.

In the real world we are a 2 seed right now, 3 at very worst; in that hypothetical we'd be like a 5 seed hoping for a 4.

Had he stayed here, Cal would be doing a little better and we'd be doing a lot worse.

 

[kennyskywalker34]

Probably would have beaten either Duke or Gonzaga. One of the two.
But would have lost to Probably Brown.
Last few years. Cal always had 1 surprise non conference win. When it felt like he had no chance of winning. Like at Kansas.
Cal usually had 1 SEC win a year that looked to be impossible to win like at Tennessee.
But would follow up any good win with multiple head scratching losses.
They would probably have lost to either Duke or Gonzaga.
Lost to Ohio State and Clemson and lost to Florida and Brown.
I'll say 5 losses. With only 1 good win.
Probably something like 18-13 Regular season.

 

[bbncal02]

Probably would have beaten either Duke or Gonzaga. One of the two.
But would have lost to Probably Brown.
Last few years. Cal always had 1 surprise non conference win. When it felt like he had no chance of winning. Like at Kansas.
Cal usually had 1 SEC win a year that looked to be impossible to win like at Tennessee.
But would follow up any good win with multiple head scratching losses.
They would probably have lost to either Duke or Gonzaga.
Lost to Ohio State and Clemson and lost to Florida and Brown.
I'll say 5 losses. With only 1 good win.
Probably something like 18-13 Regular season.

Yeah no way we beat Duke and/or Zaga with Cal. None.
Had we lost to Brown....whew.....

But would've lost to Clemson easily (Cal always sucked at opening road games).

 

[NociHTTP]

Another twist on the question is what would Cal's record be with our current roster? We would have had at least 4-5 losses because Cal wouldn't have a clue how to install an offense as effective as Pope's.

Cal does have a clue how to install an offense, that maybe not as pretty as Pope's, was pretty darn good early last season. He just doesn't want to install it. If I were the guy he brought on to teach that offense, I'd be pissed.

 

[RuppnRoll]

We would have missed the tournament.

The question I keep running through my mind is how good would Pope's squad be if Big Z had stayed at Kentucky?

His game is perfect for Pope's system. He's probably be a top 20 pick if he had stayed here. Instead, he'll be back for a third season under Calipari at this rate.

And Theiro