I don't think so. I don't think Pitino will be coaching then. Even if he is, they just aren't very good. Our guards will eat them alive.It'll be closer than you think. I'll go UK by 8-10, which has been the margin of victory for us every year Cal's been here, with the exception of Jorts coming out party blow out in 2010.
The thing is you don't have to reason with them anymore. They are as dirty as the day is long and everyone knows it.. Their conspiracy theories will get about as much respect as your crazy uncle ranting about chemtrails at Thanksgiving.folks...birds are going to be increasingly harder to deal with going forward...you thought it was bad having to hear them hoot and holler about Cal, UK, OAD, etc...now that hey have their mess the anti UK rhetoric and lunatic conspiracy theories are going to be at historically high levels...
there will be no reasoning with them now...
every time we win and UK gets some positive press time it will because Cal is a cheat, NCAA loves UK, etc...and every time they lose and get some negative press time it will be all Cal's fault and because the NCAA is out to get them...
Yep, I agree. He'll muck it up with the zone, and turn us over just enough to make it respectable. It's been the exact same script every year but one since Cal's been here, and the year they won. If they can him or he resigns before we play, which is a huge long shot, I think it will be a 15-20 point beatdown.IF Pitino is still coach it'll be a close game. He'll turn it into a mucked up foul-fest that will look more like a wrestling match than basketball, but he'll hold the margin to a dozen or less
Good.folks...birds are going to be increasingly harder to deal with going forward...you thought it was bad having to hear them hoot and holler about Cal, UK, OAD, etc...now that hey have their mess the anti UK rhetoric and lunatic conspiracy theories are going to be at historically high levels...
there will be no reasoning with them now...
every time we win and UK gets some positive press time it will because Cal is a cheat, NCAA loves UK, etc...and every time they lose and get some negative press time it will be all Cal's fault and because the NCAA is out to get them...
Yes, IF he's still the coach that is his only hope. Trouble is, he can't get away with that garbage nearly as much in Rupp. Between the fans and the national TV audience, the stripes just won't let them mug UK like they want to. They'll have to beat the Cats straight up, and that's just unlikely.IF Pitino is still coach it'll be a close game. He'll turn it into a mucked up foul-fest that will look more like a wrestling match than basketball, but he'll hold the margin to a dozen or less
That lousy group of intramural players could practice for a year together & it won't help. NO talent = no game.I am not going to say UL will win the game but I am going to say UL will be better than you think. Jones was gone for the last month of the season last year and UL actually played better with him gone so really we lost Harrell and Rozier both good players who were drafted in the first round and Blackshear who was steady but never great. Last I checked you guys lost more and better players than UL. You are have some really good freshmen like always to replace them. The two 5th year transfers for UL are pretty good and all the incoming freshmen players are much better shooters than the players lost. In addition this year UL had the overseas trip and the 3 weeks of extra practice in August. Guess we will out come late December.
I'm wondering right now if you're even a real Louisville fan or if you're a UK fan posing just for kicks.I am not going to say UL will win the game but I am going to say UL will be better than you think. Jones was gone for the last month of the season last year and UL actually played better with him gone so really we lost Harrell and Rozier both good players who were drafted in the first round and Blackshear who was steady but never great. Last I checked you guys lost more and better players than UL. You are have some really good freshmen like always to replace them. The two 5th year transfers for UL are pretty good and all the incoming freshmen players are much better shooters than the players lost. In addition this year UL had the overseas trip and the 3 weeks of extra practice in August. Guess we will out come late December.
This is the worst team Pitino has ever had. He lost Rozier and Harrell and they were his best pieces.I am not going to say UL will win the game but I am going to say UL will be better than you think. Jones was gone for the last month of the season last year and UL actually played better with him gone so really we lost Harrell and Rozier both good players who were drafted in the first round and Blackshear who was steady but never great. Last I checked you guys lost more and better players than UL. You are have some really good freshmen like always to replace them. The two 5th year transfers for UL are pretty good and all the incoming freshmen players are much better shooters than the players lost. In addition this year UL had the overseas trip and the 3 weeks of extra practice in August. Guess we will out come late December.
This is the same garbage we get from you guys every year. When will you guys finally get it? You aren't going to beat UK with the weak talent RP keeps putting on the floor. Don't you see the numbers? 7-1 and your 1 win was your title team vs our NIT team on your floor and you STILL almost lost.I am not going to say UL will win the game but I am going to say UL will be better than you think. Jones was gone for the last month of the season last year and UL actually played better with him gone so really we lost Harrell and Rozier both good players who were drafted in the first round and Blackshear who was steady but never great. Last I checked you guys lost more and better players than UL. You are have some really good freshmen like always to replace them. The two 5th year transfers for UL are pretty good and all the incoming freshmen players are much better shooters than the players lost. In addition this year UL had the overseas trip and the 3 weeks of extra practice in August. Guess we will out come late December.
I am not going to say UL will win the game but I am going to say UL will be better than you think.
Talent wise that is true which is why he keeps saying its the best group of kids he has ever been around. Even he know he has nothing.This is the worst team Pitino has ever had. He lost Rozier and Harrell and they were his best pieces.
How bad do we beat them and do they go back to Minardi hall crying?
72-50 and yes, they go home crying.
and you're even being conservative with blackshear. he was their best leader (on the floor) in big games, because he was the only one that played significant minutes in two final fours previous. when things got crazy he was pitino's settling force because all he did was make the simple play with no ego. in their final game he was their best player easily. that would be like little brothel's version of darius miller as a leader on the floor. all experience. basically we should feast on them. and they go up tempo with our guard play we could break 80 imo.Yes, IF he's still the coach that is his only hope. Trouble is, he can't get away with that garbage nearly as much in Rupp. Between the fans and the national TV audience, the stripes just won't let them mug UK like they want to. They'll have to beat the Cats straight up, and that's just unlikely.
Consider what they lost:
Harrell, who was their best player by a long shot, and best player in several years. Top rebounder, #2 scorer, glue guy, energy guy
Rozier, who was their leading scorer, leader in assists, leader in steals, and most athletic guard.
Chris Jones, who despite his issues was the Cards' top 3pt shooter, #3 scorer, and most clutch player at crunch time.
Blackshear, who some may say is addition by subtraction, yet was the #4 scorer on the team, top in 3pt makes with 60, and one of their best ft shooters on the team, and also one of their most versatile defenders. He was also one of 2 Mcds AAs on a team that lacked a huge amount of high major talent.
That's their top 4 scorers off a team that lost 9 games, yet still likely overachieved, losing in the Elite 8 to Mich St. The only way they will be competitive in the ACC this season is if these grad transfers can immediately replace the productivity of Rozier and Jones and the 3-headed monster can somehow replace the contributions of Harrell. And they would still have to find a way to replace Blackshear's output with the returnees. It seems a high task, in my opinion. The other thing they'll need is Pitino still game planning for them, which may not happen.
Good post. Now quit trying to bring logic and reason into this card-bashing thread.The game is at Rupp, so we should definitely win.
Even though Pitino is a slime ball.. he's still an excellent coach.
I wouldn't discount the 2 fifth year transfers. Guard play is the most important thing in college basketball and they have experience, they're pretty athletic, and they can shoot. Lee shot 38.5% and Lewis 42.3% from 3. I've always wondered how guys at mid-major schools would fare at bigger schools. I'm not saying they are NBA players by any stretch... but look at NBA rosters, there are a TON of players that you never heard of in college.
They have 2 bigs that can rebound and block shots in Mathiang and Onuaku...
I'm not sure how ready their freshman are... but Donovan Mitchell and Deng Adel will be good players in time. They definitely have a ton of unknowns overall.... but it would not surprise me if they ended up a pretty good team and a team most will not want to see in March.
I'm excited about this UK team... really excited. But I remember too well how past really young Calipari teams play in Nov/Dec and the early conference road games. I think we have been spoiled by last year's teams talent and returning experience. Playing a Pitino coached team is going to be GREAT for us though.. especially when Pitino knows he doesn't have the talent... they will play physical, dirty, and try to make it an ugly game... win big or barely win we will definitely be better for playing them.
*Ulis experience factor will help tremendously
* Defense/rebounding will be weaker areas that other teams will exploit early
Good post. Now quit trying to bring logic and reason into this card-bashing thread.
I will rest with the case I made. We can discuss again in December.
I am not going to say UL will win the game but I am going to say UL will be better than you think. Jones was gone for the last month of the season last year and UL actually played better with him gone so really we lost Harrell and Rozier both good players who were drafted in the first round and Blackshear who was steady but never great. Last I checked you guys lost more and better players than UL. You are have some really good freshmen like always to replace them. The two 5th year transfers for UL are pretty good and all the incoming freshmen players are much better shooters than the players lost. In addition this year UL had the overseas trip and the 3 weeks of extra practice in August. Guess we will out come late December.