I'm curious how this is viewed. I will say that I think 2010 and on has produced some extremely weak champs overall, both UConn teams and 2010 Duke and 2016 Nova would be near the bottom for me.
How would you rank the national champions since 2000?
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I'll take a stab:
1. UK '12
2. UF '07
3. Maryland '02
4. UNC '05
5. Duke '01
6. UCONN '04
7. Syracuse '03
8. UNC '09
9. UF '06
10. Kansas '08
11. Duke '15
12. MSU '00
13. UL '13
14. Nova '16
15. UNC '17
16. UCONN '11
17. Duke '10
18. UCONN '14
Not close to perfect but these are off the top of my head
1. UK '12
2. UF '07
3. Maryland '02
4. UNC '05
5. Duke '01
6. UCONN '04
7. Syracuse '03
8. UNC '09
9. UF '06
10. Kansas '08
11. Duke '15
12. MSU '00
13. UL '13
14. Nova '16
15. UNC '17
16. UCONN '11
17. Duke '10
18. UCONN '14
Not close to perfect but these are off the top of my head
They were well coached and physical, but they weren't the best team that year; Cincinnati was, until Kenyon Martin got hurt.
08' Kansas beat the crap out of the 09' UNC team in the Final Four and you have them ranked 2 spots higher than Kansas?
Doesn't matter. Both teams were playing ineligible players.
Seriously, comparing a title teams prior season??
That UNC team in 2009 was legit, and is certainly better than Kansas in 2008. Kansas needed another team to choke to win.. meanwhile, did anyone REALLY think State had a chance to beat UNC? I didn't. We had wing night somewhere in the Bronx.. we all knew UNC was winning.
That UNC team in 2009 was legit, and is certainly better than Kansas in 2008. Kansas needed another team to choke to win.. meanwhile, did anyone REALLY think State had a chance to beat UNC? I didn't. We had wing night somewhere in the Bronx.. we all knew UNC was winning.
how is the 09 UNC team better than the 08 KU team? the UNC team returned EVERYONE from their 2008 team and KU destroyed them in the Final Four the year before...your logic makes zero sense. you hate KU, i get it. but to say the 09 UNC team was better than the 08 KU team is hilarious.
It's another damn year, another season of experience.. How do you not get that?
We get it, you think every Kansas team is better than the rest of the field, and you think every Kansas player is the best in the world.
We get it, you think every Kansas team is better than the rest of the field, and you think every Kansas player is the best in the world.
no but when the 08 team destroys the 09 team it's pretty easy to rank them ahead.
Tier One (any order)
2012 Kentucky
2009 UNC
2001 Duke
2008 Kansas (underrated)
2007 Florida
2002 Maryland
Tier Two
2005 UNC
2016 Villanova
2006 Florida
2013 Louisville
2004 UCONN
2015 Duke
Tier Three
2010 Duke
2000 Michigan State
2003 Syracuse
2011 UCONN
2014 UCONN
2012 Kentucky
2009 UNC
2001 Duke
2008 Kansas (underrated)
2007 Florida
2002 Maryland
Tier Two
2005 UNC
2016 Villanova
2006 Florida
2013 Louisville
2004 UCONN
2015 Duke
Tier Three
2010 Duke
2000 Michigan State
2003 Syracuse
2011 UCONN
2014 UCONN
Time travel!!!!!!!!!! That's a bigger feat than winning the big 12 so many years in a row.
Well, probably not to a Kansas fan.
I'm amazed the concept of experience is totally lost on you..Thankfully, most won't agree with your pick.
UNC returned every one of note, and then added Ed Davis, who led the team in blocks and was a 12 and 12 guy when his minutes were adjusted. He was also a lottery pick one year later.
Despite another loss or two, it's not hard to see that UNC in 2009 was much improved.
I already know the answer to this, because I'm sure you think Kansas could beat an NBA team..
But do you think Kansas '08 beats UNC '09? I don't..
But do you think Kansas '08 beats UNC '09? I don't..
I agree. I think unc and ku should be higher. UNC ahead though. They won every game by double digits in ncaa tourney.
KU beat them by 18 so i'm pretty confident they would have a good chance to beat the 09 UNC team
that florida team won it twice, and has three guys still playing in the league. would probably put them behind 2012 uk, but nobody else
2001 duke was loaded, and was easily the most talented team the next year, even without battier. that was a terrible, terrible loss at rupp
carolina's banners should be taken down, so f them
2001 duke was loaded, and was easily the most talented team the next year, even without battier. that was a terrible, terrible loss at rupp
carolina's banners should be taken down, so f them
Of course they have a chance.. The point is you're acting like UNC in 09 was the same team in 08.
so Ed Davis was the game changer for them? if you are giving them another year of experience then you have to give the same for KU
No. That's not how this works.
You said the 2008 KU team is better cause they beat UNC that year.
Debating whether that same Kansas team can beat UNC a year later isn't the argument.
You said the 2008 KU team is better cause they beat UNC that year.
Debating whether that same Kansas team can beat UNC a year later isn't the argument.
well then i stand by my answer...KU won by 18 and Ed Davis wouldn't have mattered and the KU post players completely owned Tyler H
Good.. I'm glad after 3 tries you got it. Lol at the answer, too. Not surprised. A guy who averaged 7 and 7 his freshman year is a nonfactor? Classic!
The sports world is gonna put UNC higher than Kansas.. And UK'12 will be higher than both. Good thing we don't leave these debates up to horrifically biased fans.
The sports world is gonna put UNC higher than Kansas.. And UK'12 will be higher than both. Good thing we don't leave these debates up to horrifically biased fans.
What??? How dumb are you? Your argument makes literally no sense. Why would you give '08 KU another year experience? They had key seniors on that team. Thus the reason THEY COULDN'T HAVE HAD ANOTHER YEAR NO MATTER WHAT. I hate UNC but all of their key guys returned in 2009. Kansas can't make the argument their team would win by saying "another year of experience" because their key guys had no more eligibility. It's honestly an extremely simple concept. Somehow I still doubt you'll be able to understand though.
Are you mentally handicapped?
You compare finished products, you dolt. The finished product of the 09 UNC team had seniors Hansbrough and Green, juniors Lawson, Ellington, and Thompson, and Ed Davis who wasn't on the 07-08 team. The finished product for Kansas 07-08 CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER YEAR. Duh. Especially not since there were 3 seniors among the top 7 scorers.
That 07-08 FF game was a one-off fluke (in terms of being lopsided- Kansas probably was better than UNC in 07-08). Just the prior game, Kansas was lucky to beat Davidson (Steph Curry, I know, but it's still frickin' Davidson), and Kansas only won a title because Memphis gacked about a dozen FT's in the last 90 seconds. UNC pretty much beat the crap out of everyone in 09.
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so then why are you trying to say UNC 09 would beat KU 08 since they wouldn't have been able to play each other? and the 08 team beat the exact same 09 UNC team by 18...and it was in the only final four where ALL #1 seeds made it
hansbrough is the worst 'great' player in the history of basketball
08 kansas beat 08 north carolina
09 carolina is a different, more experienced team. 08 kansas didn't exist in 09. 09 kansas did
Wouldn't the 2008 KU team also be a year older in 2009? What am I missing? One team gets the advantage of another year of experience and maturity and the other doesn't?
that 2008 kansas does not exist in 2009
apparently nobody remembers how good the 2004 UConn team actually was
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the 2012 Kentucky team is the only one that could beat them all other things equal on any given day........maybe
Emeka Okafor
Charlie Villanueva
Josh Boone
Ben Gordon
The Browns
Anderson
Armstrong
the 2012 Kentucky team is the only one that could beat them all other things equal on any given day........maybe
Solid.
I maybe swap 2002 Maryland with 2005 UNC.
2004 uconn and 2006 Florida also tier one caliber, but can't find anyone else to bump.
Nice job!
Wrong, moron. Were Hansbrough and Green seniors in 07-08? Were Lawson, Ellington, and Thompson juniors? Was Ed Davis on the team?
No, no, and no. Therefore 08-09 UNC WAS NOT THE SAME TEAM as 07-08 UNC.
Good Lord, how tough of a concept is that to grasp?
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Looks like you joined when your Jayhawks were making a run.....It's really not that hard to figure out. Kansas did win by 18, but do you believe that they would go up 40-12 to start the game each time against the 08' UNC team? It was 5-point game with about five minutes to go. Is Oregon better than Kansas? They won by 14. VCU beat Kansas by double-digits in 2011; were they better? Wichita beat Kansas by 13 in 2015; are they better? Basic common sense tells you that the 09' UNC team was much better than the 08' UNC team. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to grasp. The Florida 07' team was better than Florida 06' team. The 98' Arizona team was better than the 97' team, but they played one terrible game. Yes, teams returning all five starters and adding a solid big is going to be better. Would 09' UNC beat 08' Kansas? Who knows, but they wouldn't start 40-12.
no
that was 2008 carolina, when it was 2008
the next season--2009--the same core played another season. that was 2009. 2009 north carolina
the overall body of work of that team in that season suggests to many that they were better than the kansas team from the year before
no, you don't get to bring 2008 russell robinson back from 2009 f--king finland or wherever and play him in a hypothetical 2009 game against 2009 carolina
that was 2008 carolina, when it was 2008
the next season--2009--the same core played another season. that was 2009. 2009 north carolina
the overall body of work of that team in that season suggests to many that they were better than the kansas team from the year before
no, you don't get to bring 2008 russell robinson back from 2009 f--king finland or wherever and play him in a hypothetical 2009 game against 2009 carolina
