Yeah, I am wondering the same thing. If neither team can shoot in the doom, then it comes down to rebounding and turnovers....whichever team can generate the most "easy" baskets will win
How much will playing in a dome impact the game?
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2014 game was at 35,000 attendance like Friday, the Wisconsin game in 2015 was at 72,000. The UK/Indiana game will be at the 35,000 when we play them at Lucas Oil in December, 2026.
I know it doesn’t. I’ve been there both setups.
But it’s still a dome.
For the people that want to worry about such things it’s there for them to worry about.
It doesn’t make it not a dome to move the court.
Both teams gonna have to play in it though. We baited Tennessee into 41 three point attempts the first game. I’m not certain it hurts us more than them. We are the team that people push off the perimeter and prevent shots from.
I'm not one to worry about it. I think it's a non issue. Maybe the wind will blow shots in?😜
The site that host the finals the next year gets to host a regional the year before
The argument would be it hurts them less since their normal game isn’t predicated on going 40%+ from 3 and they rely on defense and rebounding.
Compared to us being the team that relies on playing just enough defense and shooting well
Well, UK is on quite the losing streak in Indianapolis, generally ... including Lucas Oil. Think Final Four 2015 (ugh).
Your theory is respected. But look at them Tennessee % when they lost and won. Dome is not gonna make them shoot any better. Nor does it us. Maybe neutralizes the game. But amari is really rebounding well.
They are needing slightly less stats than us. But eye for an eye. We both either suffer, or it only hurts us. I don't see it that way. I think whoever hits the freethrows has the advantage here.
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I know there is some data out there that suggests shooting suffers in domes, but I really don't understand why...
When we focus on something visually, our finer depth perception only holds true in the central few degrees. Anything more peripheral just those few degrees, and our depth perception drops off BIG-TIME...think legally blind levels.
So, with that in mind, once a player locks onto the rim visually, how far things are away in the background shouldn't matter a ton...especially when comparing two places where there is nothing is close to the backboard in either setting... like Rupp vs a dome.
I remember going to the SEC Tournament in the old Georgia Dome....I was closer to my home in Michigan then the floor!
I think the difference is between a normal persons eyes/brain figuring out the depth, and a shooter who is trying to ascertain how to approach their shot, in a split second, when that shot already is statistically unlikely to go in (unless they are a 50% 3pt shooter).
I think its enough of a change in the environment (and therefore depth), that it's going to throw off a lot of shooters.
While there's a common perception that playing in domed stadiums negatively impacts shooting in basketball, an analysis from FiveThirtyEight suggests that any drop in field goal percentage is more related to the strength of the opposing defense, especially in later rounds of tournaments, rather than the venue itself.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
fivethirtyeight.com
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- The "Dome Effect" Myth:
The idea that domed stadiums negatively impact shooting is a common talking point, particularly during the NCAA tournament, but data suggests that the effect is not as pronounced as many believe. - Defense as a Factor:
Games in large, domed stadiums are often played in the later rounds of tournaments, where teams tend to be tougher defensively, which would naturally lead to lower shooting percentages. - NRG Stadium Exception:
An analysis from FiveThirtyEight found, that NRG Stadium, a domed venue, has been particularly difficult for teams to shoot from, with one study finding teams shot only about 32% from the 3-point line there. - Other Factors:
Some attribute poorer shooting in domed stadiums to altered depth perception or the pressure of playing in a large crowd, but these are not as well-supported by data. - Betting Implications:
Las Vegas bookmakers are docking Final Four point totals by about 4 because of the venue, suggesting that the "dome effect" is still a factor in some people's perception of the games. - Open Dome Arenas:
Teams playing in open domes have an effective field goal percentage of 47.4 percent, 0.5 percentage points worse than teams in standard arenas and traditional domes.
The Dome Effect Isn’t Real; The NRG Effect Is Complicated
Twenty years ago this week, Kentucky beat Syracuse in the men’s NCAA Tournament title game in front of a crowd of 19,229 at Continental Airlines Arena in New Je…
It doesn't look that bad to me. The worst set up ever for a dome was 2011 in Houston. None of the four teams could hit anything. On the other hand, the set up in Cowboys Stadium in 2014 was good for shooters, at least Aaron Harrison didn't have a problem with it. They aren't using the whole Hoosier Dome, per the picture.
The court setup doesn't look that bad. The way they have the bleachers arranged behind the baskets looks very similar to a normal basketball arena. I remember the depth perception being a concern when there is more empty space between the basket and seats, but that doesn't appear to be an issue here.
yeah, I get the general thoughts that are thrown around on the idea. However, as someone who has studied this a bit (I am actually an eye dr), I can't quite reconcile the science.
By comparison, I've never seen anything like this said (maybe it has been) about batting averages for College or MLB players dropping b/c they can't judge the ball when the venue is larger... and it takes much quicker and more precise depth perception to hit a baseball than a 3pt shot.
We play half our games in a building bigger than most guys have ever dribbled a ball in. We can't use 'playing in a dome' as any type of excuse. Just put the ball in the hoop.
Yeah that is a good point about baseball, so idk. I will say there's a lot of differences between the two sports.. while hitting a baseball is undoubtedly harder than making a 3pt shot.. you ARE hitting that baseball in a very static setting and manner. Ie, same stance, same feet position, youre not mobile, there's no one defending you, there's no shot clock, there's no team mates near you to account for. When you go to take a 3pointer there's all these factors that, you as a shooter, have to account for, when you rise up to shoot. Could be a different defender on you, could be a different spot on the floor. So I think when you add that to the fact that the hoop has a slightly different backdrop than 95% of the arenas you play in.. that's probably enough of a change to throw off shooting enough to drop percentages say 10 percentage points or something.
Yeah, it’s fun to postulate and theorize, but it just hasn’t ever made sense to me from a physiological standpoint of how stereo vision works.
Regardless, here’s to hoping the Cats have their best shooting game of the season en route to an EE appearance by blowing the Vols out of the arena. 🥳🥳
My comments aged well. What a disaster. Completely wrong. Everything I've said. Smh
I dropped out of that conversation because I have experienced going from playing in a regular size gym to a dome with a floor and it is horrible for a shooter who has not experienced that before.
I would be all for banning all future games in domes. Basketball should be played in arenas built for basketball.
I would be in favor of this, but all that matters is money. I went to the Final Four in 2011. Not only did we suck, but good lord it was just an awful experience. I had what should have been great seats, in the lower level. The viewing angles were trash. I was basically level with the court. Couldn’t tell what the hell was going on. Had to watch on the screen above me the entire game. Worthless. One time and I would NEVER go to a final four in a football stadium ever again, even if the tickets were free. It was completely ****ing awful.
My wife and I went to Indy in 97 Final Four and had the same experience you describe. It's just a money grab and I wouldn't do it again.
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