As long as we don't lose in the NCAAT idc if we have 12 losses. That being said anywhere from 4-7 would be my guess.
How many losses this year?
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This. Its like people have amnesia about the 2011 and 2014 teams. This team is basically one of those teams. I'm predicting 8 losses. We are going to struggle a lot more than people think. But by march we should be damn good. I say we get to the final four. Anything after that is hard to predict lol
I think we have the talent to run the table.....take age and the brutal schedule into consideration. Factor in dumb luck.....4 losses but tight come the dance and we hang another one!! National Champs with 4 losses, last loss is during regular season and we run both tourneys clicking!!
Dude. No way. This team is nothing like either of those teams. We may be about as good as we were last year. I mean we literally have everything. Some people don't realize how good we're about to be.....again. We wont like kick Duke's ass or nothing, but we should win pretty easily. And by that I mean by 5-6 points and lead most of the game. I think 2-3 losses max.
Lol thing is, there are a lot of posters on here that actually prefer piling up regular season wins than piling up national championships. They would rather go 38-1 without the title than to go 29-11 with the title. I swear to God its true with some fans on here. Case in point would be those who would choose Cal's last 6 years over Coach K's.
Most would agree.
But, the less you lose in the regular season, the better your seeding, and the better your seeding, the better your chances of advancing in the tourney.
Is this "congolomoration" more talented than the 2014 group that lost 11 games? Sure, we could run through the schedule with only 3 losses. Or, despite a lot of talent it could take a while for a very young team with a ton of new pieces to put everything together.
Or maybe the reason we would prefer Cal's last 6 years is because he consistently goes to final fours. Just a thought. And should UK win the title next year, who's last 7 years would you prefer?? The problem with fans like yourself is that every season that doesn't end with a title is a disappointment, and though you are better off being a UK fan thinking that way, it still sucks to be you. EVERY SEASON WITHOUT A TITLE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A DISAPPOINTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Case in point. Here is a poster that prefers Final Fours over National Titles. Amazing
last year, I predicted we would go undefeated. We came within 2 minutes of doing so. This year I will not make that prediction for several reasons, but will say that it could be done with this group. The talent is there, but the experience is not. Nevertheless, talent generally trumps experience. If they are undefeated by New Year's Day, meaning they are really playing as a team, they could run the table.
You're pretty fun to read right now dude. Its pretty obvious that we're the best and most talented team in the country. We're stacked at every position. We have multiple lottery picks, we have experienced returnees, good depth, scoring, defense, everything. Our guards are so much better than our guards last year its not even comparable. We wont lose that many games. We're simply too damn good to. Again we'll lose 2-3 games max. And one wont be to Duke. We'll tear them up down low and on the boards. We're going to be a nightmare for opposing teams to defend. Hell we have 3 of the top 10 PG prospects, and the number 1 Center. Come on man. This team is absolutely nothing like either of those teams. We're more like last year, 09, and 12.
Can you name anybody that likes regular season wins more than championships? Why make stuff up?
Nonsense. That's not what weatherbird said at all. Somebody has terrible reading comprehension.
It's the unknowns that you can't predict. Could we overcome an injury like Alex's this year? Or remember how many guys were out with sicknesses last year, that could happen again. The big one is how long will it take for this team to have chemistry and an identity? And last, this is a tough schedule for another fairly young team to play. On the other hand everything could fall into place and this could be the year for #9.
He said he would take Cal's last 6 years over K's because of final fours. He said that. Not me. Don't think its too hard to see he prefers Final Fours over National Titles based on saying he would take Cal's last 6 years over K's. God you're dumb
Several points very well taken,I would add that I think very early we will see if this team has the "it" factor,we saw that early with 2012,last lear may have been skewed by the Bahama trip.As you point out the injury to Alex may have prevented that team from finding the next gear that it didn't seem to find in tournament time
Number of losses is a real crap shoot but if we are undefeated on Dec1 it may be a while before we lose one.
Never said I prefer final fours over championships, only said that final fours are the reason people might prefer Cal's last six over K's. It's like would you prefer 2 $100 bills, or 1 $100 bill and 3 $50 bills? My enjoyment of UK basketball has to do with watching them play, and with Cal I've been able to do that because he mostly plays all the way to April. With Duke, it ends more often in the middle of March than playing in April. I get it, you don't like Cal, and that's fine, but quit acting like he's not a HOF coach, because he is.
I love Cal. Just wouldn't take his last 6 years over K's last 6 years because I place more value in winning titles. What seperates K from Cal is that when K gets to the Final Four he brings it home.
And for those saying "stop complaining and expecting a national title every year", I don't. But I would agree with Mr. John Calipari himself who said "I should have won 3 titles already at UK". Again, he said that, not me, and I happen to agree with him.
Why do I continue to bring this up? Because it serves my point and opinion that Cal is good enough to get you to the end, just not good enough to win it all, unless he has a transcendent superstar like Anthony Davis. Even then its not guaranteed. He had Derek Rose which no one had ever seen a guard with that kind of strength and athleticism before and Cal squandered it away in the end. Last season he had KAT, who is already proving that he will be a dominant player in the NBA as he has set the world on fire in his first 2 games, and he still didn't win it. 3 straight shot clock violations, a Tyler Ulis hanging out on the bench, and again, "squandered away". Cal is amazing no doubt, great recruiter, marketer, and a damn fine bench coach, but his MO is to squander it away in the end. That will be his legacy. Mark my words, when he leaves UK there will be more people saying "wow what could have been" then saying anything else. Cal has had more talent than anyone in the country over the last 6 years. 2 first over all picks, multiple first rounders, etc etc and only one national title to show for it.
Hell, look at Cal's year in 2013. He lost in the first round of the NIT to Robert Morris. So many on here want to say well we lost Nerlens Noel. He was one freaking player! You mean to tell me that Cal' loses one player out of all those McDonald's AA's and suddenly he can't even make the tournament? He still had multiple 5-stars on that team and lost in the first round of the NIT?
I predict this team to be taken out in the elite eight as I believe by just sheer chance we are due a year where we don't quite live up to expectation. Thats my prediction and you read it here first. Of course if we make the Final Four it will be squandered away for another year of heart break. Cal is great, but he is Tarkinian all over again.
I don't think Cal has to have an Anthony Davis. It helps obviously, but that argument reminds me of the argument that so many made before Davis that Cal would "never win a title with one-and-dones."
Izzo and Pitino have been to a few Final Fours that they haven't been able to bring home. Coach K went to three Final Fours before he won one. The guy I think Cal is most similar to in terms of his legacy--Roy Wiliams--went to four FFs before winning his first one. It's tough.
Cal has had the best team three times since he's been at UK, but one thing with that 2009 team is that they couldn't shoot. Before that season if you'll remember many people pointed at the loss of Jodie Meeks as a killer. That one loss really made us vulnerable. We were the best team and should have won, but it wasn't like we were catastrophically ahead of the field or anything.
Izzo and Pitino have been to a few Final Fours that they haven't been able to bring home. Coach K went to three Final Fours before he won one. The guy I think Cal is most similar to in terms of his legacy--Roy Wiliams--went to four FFs before winning his first one. It's tough.
Cal has had the best team three times since he's been at UK, but one thing with that 2009 team is that they couldn't shoot. Before that season if you'll remember many people pointed at the loss of Jodie Meeks as a killer. That one loss really made us vulnerable. We were the best team and should have won, but it wasn't like we were catastrophically ahead of the field or anything.
Yeah well we had "literally everything" in 2011 and 2014. Heck, 2014 was stacked, we didn't see 10 losses happening there either. This team is just as young. But it has one X factor that separates 16 from the other two teams: a sophomore Tyler Ulis. Is he good enough to overcome the problems that 11 and 14 had and prevent a bunch of losses? We will see but it won't be easy.
I'm proud of the people that posted in this thread. No seriously I am . I mean I never thought you guys could do this but you guys pulled through.
You all managed to make it to page 2, in a thread talking about the amount of losses our team will suffer and nobody…. NOBODY, not one single person posted the saying I hate the most: "This is a down year in college basketball".
OMG, I freaking hate that saying. It isn't true at all but we see this post every single year. How can cbb be down every year?
So, seriously, thank you all for your efforts. I love you guys (accompanied by 2 fist taps to the chest and a finger point atchyou all).
Oh and my prediction: 4 losses and a final four. I'm not predicting a title, if last years team couldn't do it, and 2010 couldn't do it then I don't see this team doing it. I hope to be surprised though.
You all managed to make it to page 2, in a thread talking about the amount of losses our team will suffer and nobody…. NOBODY, not one single person posted the saying I hate the most: "This is a down year in college basketball".
OMG, I freaking hate that saying. It isn't true at all but we see this post every single year. How can cbb be down every year?
So, seriously, thank you all for your efforts. I love you guys (accompanied by 2 fist taps to the chest and a finger point atchyou all).
Oh and my prediction: 4 losses and a final four. I'm not predicting a title, if last years team couldn't do it, and 2010 couldn't do it then I don't see this team doing it. I hope to be surprised though.
Not sure what 2010 and 2015 have to do with this team.
Different teams, different fields, illogical.
Edited to add: Kentucky fans have a weird thing where they want to compare the current team to past teams. It's more important for UK fans to compare UK to different iterations of itself than to the actual field. That's weird. Will never forget the night that I was listening to Matt Jones on the postgame in 2012 after we'd just pummelled somebody, and caller after caller phoned it to say Cal would inevitably choke, that we were too inexperienced, that freshmen couldn't win, that we couldn't do it in 2010.
Is there another fanbase who strives for fatalism like UK fans? I've never understood it.
Different teams, different fields, illogical.
Edited to add: Kentucky fans have a weird thing where they want to compare the current team to past teams. It's more important for UK fans to compare UK to different iterations of itself than to the actual field. That's weird. Will never forget the night that I was listening to Matt Jones on the postgame in 2012 after we'd just pummelled somebody, and caller after caller phoned it to say Cal would inevitably choke, that we were too inexperienced, that freshmen couldn't win, that we couldn't do it in 2010.
Is there another fanbase who strives for fatalism like UK fans? I've never understood it.
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We use the results from previous teams because that's the proof we have. If those teams won titles we would all be predicting a title this year but those teams had the goods to win it all and they didn't. Having experienced those losses we know it can happen to this team.
I don't get how it's so hard to understand really, what else do we have to go on? There aren't any other teams out there trying to win with young teams, this team is young, the only other teams we can compare it to are all of Cal's previous teams. Oh, and they all have something pretty major in common with this team, they all have the same coach. So why would we not use Cal's previous teams as our criteria? What are we supposed to use?
But that isn't "proof" of anything.
Different teams and players.
Same coach...but again, the "Cal will never win a title" refrain was fairly loud back in October 2011.
I don't understand this fetish we have for prescribing the entire season before we play a game. We don't even know what the rotation is going to look like and some folks already know how we'll do in the NCAA Tournament? That's silly to me.
Depends on how quickly they come together. The 2014 team had 5 guys ranked in the top 10 of their recruiting class - plus WCS and Poythress returning - and still managed 10 losses before making their historic tournament run.
I think Ulis is the real difference, however. He will be immortalized this season as one of the greatest guards in our history. If Skal improves at the rate I think he's capable of, UK will be in the thick of the fight come late March/early April.
We'll be susceptible to physical teams full of veterans & I don't think we'll be anything like the defensive monster they were last year.
4 losses.
4 losses.
I agree. You'd hope Kentucky would be able to offset it with its guardplay. Also hope Cal will let them air it out a little this year, but his instinct is almost always to play very close to the vest and get the game into a halfcourt affair.
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