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How many ex-UK players are still in college ? (B Roberts)

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Enough to fill a whole team.​

When the 2023-24 college basketball season tips off in November, there will be enough former Kentucky Wildcats playing elsewhere to fill out an entire roster. As of now, 11 ex-UK basketball players will be with other programs next season. If the still-deliberating Antonio Reeves decides to finish his college career at another school, that number would rise to 12. Obviously, at this point in the offseason, John Calipari could probably use a veteran or two from that bunch to fill out a 2023-24 Kentucky roster that, so far, includes only freshmen and sophomores among its scholarship players.

But all these players have moved on from UK’s program, and — while they’ve had little team success after departing Lexington — several have turned into quality college basketball players and most are expected to play major roles for their current programs next season. Here’s a look at those 11 former Wildcats, where they are now, and their outlook for 2023-24.

DONTAIE ALLEN Current school: Western Kentucky Years at UK: 2019-22 Career so far: The former Kentucky Mr. Basketball from Pendleton County sat out his first year at UK due to injuries. He was a brief sensation in his first season on the court, coming out of nowhere to hit seven threes and score 23 points off the bench in a double-overtime win at Mississippi State (after scoring just seven points and appearing in only four games to that point in the 2020-21 season). Allen had a couple of other big games as a redshirt freshman, but he didn’t play much toward the end of the season and was used sparingly as a sophomore. He transferred to Western Kentucky and got off to a slow start there before emerging as one of the Hilltoppers’ top scorers midway through last season. He averaged 9.3 points and shot 37.6 percent on threes for WKU in 2022-23.

Outlook for 2023-24: Allen will look to build on his solid ending to last season with an even better showing next season, and the Toppers will be going through a period of transition with Rick Stansbury out as head coach and Steve Lutz now in charge of the program. WKU won’t be projected as an NCAA Tournament team, but Allen should get plenty of opportunities to be one of the program’s best players this season.

DEVIN ASKEW Current school: California Years at UK: 2020-21 Career so far: Maligned as the freshman point guard on Kentucky’s ill-fated 2020-21 team, Askew left for Texas after that season but ended up playing about half the minutes with the Longhorns, averaging just 2.1 points per game. He then moved to Cal, where he was the only double-digit scorer (15.5 points per game) on one of the worst teams in Division I basketball (a 3-29 record).

Outlook for 2023-24: New head coach Mark Madsen takes over the Bears’ program, and Askew should once again be a featured player on the team. A wave of incoming transfers — including Jaylon Tyson (Texas Tech), Fardaws Aimaq (Texas Tech), Mike Meadows (Portland State), Keonte Kennedy (Memphis) and Jalen Cone (Northern Arizona) — should see Cal improve, but the Bears are still unlikely to be an NCAA Tournament team.

JEMARL BAKER Current school: New Mexico Years at UK: 2017-19 Career so far: Baker was a lightly regarded recruit — by Calipari’s five-star standards — out of high school, sat his first year in Lexington with an injury and didn’t play much (9.1 minutes per game) as a redshirt freshman. He left UK for Arizona, where he broke into the rotation in his first year (2019-20) and then was averaging 12.0 points per game before a wrist injury ended his 2020-21 season. Baker then transferred to Fresno State, where he played just five games in his first season due to a knee injury. He averaged 12.5 points per game for the Bulldogs last season, but he’s since transferred to New Mexico for the 2023-24 campaign.

Outlook for 2023-24: Yes, Baker, who turns 25 years old next week, is still in college. He should be an important piece for a Lobos team that started last season 14-0 before skidding to an 8-10 league mark in the Mountain West Conference. Coach Richard Pitino’s program brings in some transfers and returns its top two scorers and will be led by Jamal Mashburn Jr. — son of the UK basketball great — so there could be some realistic postseason hopes here.

KEION BROOKS Current school: Washington Years at UK: 2019-22 Career so far: A star recruit, Brooks was a role player in year one with the Wildcats. The only UK returnee with any game experience as a sophomore, he averaged 10.3 points and a team-leading 6.8 rebounds per game (mostly off the bench) despite missing time due to injury during the 9-16 season of 2020-21, then started 33 games as a junior, averaging 10.8 points and 4.4 rebounds per game. He transferred to Washington after that, and led the Huskies (16-16) with 17.7 points per game last season.

Outlook for 2023-24: Coach Mike Hopkins is back with Washington but likely on the hot seat heading into next season, which will be Brooks’ final year of college basketball. Fellow former UK player Sahvir Wheeler was the program’s top offseason acquisition and the Huskies will likely face an uphill climb to get back to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2019.

DAIMION COLLINS Current school: Louisiana State Years at UK: 2021-23
Career so far: A McDonald’s All-American out of high school, Collins came to Kentucky with tremendous upside but a still-growing, relatively raw skill set. He played just 7.5 minutes per game as a freshman but was projected as a possible breakout player in year two. Tragically, Collins’ father died unexpectedly at age 43 on the eve of the 2022-23 season, and the 19-year-old struggled through his sophomore year. He ultimately averaged 1.9 points and 1.9 rebounds in 7.9 minutes per game over 25 appearances.

Outlook for 2023-24: Collins was expected to look for a change of scenery after a trying final few months in Lexington, and he ended up transferring closer to his east Texas home, landing at LSU, which got off to a hot start last season under first-year coach Matt McMahon before finishing 14th and last in the Southeastern Conference with a 2-16 league record. Collins is one of a slew of talented and/or high-upside transfers — a group that includes ex-Vanderbilt player Jordan Wright — so LSU could end up being a lot better next season, though projecting the Tigers’ outlook is difficult at this stage in the calendar.

CAM’RON FLETCHER Current school: Florida State Years at UK: 2020-21 Career so far: After a frustrating freshman year at Kentucky — including leaving the program for a brief period following a courtside spat with Calipari during that tumultuous 2020-21 season — Fletcher transferred to Florida State to continue his college basketball career. He averaged 6.8 points and 3.4 rebounds in 16.3 minutes per game as a sophomore, then got off to a good start to his junior season — 10.8 points, 7.5 rebounds, 29.1 minutes per game — before being sidelined for the rest of the campaign due to injury.

Outlook for 2023-24: Fletcher projects as one of the Seminoles’ top players when he returns, but FSU isn’t expected to make a ton of noise on the court following a 9-23 showing and 12th-place finish in the ACC last season.

CJ FREDRICK Current school: Cincinnati Years at UK: 2021-23 Career so far: The Kentucky Sweet 16 MVP for Covington Catholic as a senior in high school, Fredrick — a Cincinnati native — started his college career at Iowa, sitting his first year on campus due to injury and emerging as a two-year starter and one of the best three-point shooters in the country after that. He then transferred to Kentucky, sat out the 2021-22 season with another injury and was off to an OK start to the 2022-23 campaign before he was once again sidelined by injuries that persisted through the end of the season. Due to his past injuries and the extra year granted by the NCAA as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, Fredrick, who turns 24 next month, could still have two seasons of college eligibility remaining. He transferred to Cincinnati this offseason.

Outlook for 2023-24: The Bearcats move to the Big 12 this season, and Fredrick could be a key player for his hometown team, if he can stay healthy. The veteran guard is one of several intriguing transfers brought in by third-year coach Wes Miller, who also returns some quality players from last season’s team, which went 23-13 and advanced to the NIT quarterfinals. An NCAA Tournament berth — for the first time since 2019 — would not be a surprise.
 

BRYCE HOPKINS​

Current school: Providence

Years at UK: 2021-22

Career so far: Hopkins turned heads during UK’s 2021-22 preseason — drawing rave reviews from coaches and older teammates — and while he showed flashes in his freshman season at Kentucky, he didn’t play much down the stretch. Looking for more opportunity, the Chicago-area native transferred to Providence and immediately emerged as one of the best players in the Big East, leading the Friars with 15.8 points and 8.5 rebounds per game as a sophomore. Providence was ousted by Kentucky in the first round of this year’s NCAA Tournament, but Hopkins will be back at the school for another run in 2023-24, despite being projected as a possible NBA Draft pick following this past season.

Outlook for 2023-24: Hopkins will be expected to lead a solid group of returnees that also adds Josh Oduro, a 6-9 forward who led George Mason in points and rebounds last season and will follow Coach Kim English to Providence for the 2023-24 campaign. English will be Hopkins’ third head coach in as many seasons, joining Calipari and Ed Cooley, who departed this offseason for the Georgetown job. Providence should have the personnel to make it back to the NCAA Tournament next year.

ZAN PAYNE Current school: Louisville Years at UK: 2018-22 Career so far: Payne, the son of former top UK assistant Kenny Payne, was a standout player at Lexington Catholic before joining the Wildcats as a walk-on and missing his first two seasons of college basketball due to injury. He played in 11 games and scored a total of 10 points over the next two seasons, then transferred to rival Louisville when his father landed the head coaching job there last year. A walk-on for the Cardinals, he appeared in 23 games and scored five points with 14 rebounds in a total of 80 minutes last season.

Outlook for 2023-24: Payne is back for another season, and his dad will obviously hope to improve on an abysmal 2022-23 campaign that saw the Cards go 4-28 and finish last in the ACC. Louisville did get an influx of talent this offseason, with the nation’s No. 6-ranked recruiting class, in addition to some intriguing transfers, including former UK signee Skyy Clark. Still, a trip to the NCAA Tournament seems like a long shot after last season went so poorly.

LANCE WARE Current school: Villanova Years at UK: 2020-23 Career so far: Ware came to Kentucky as a high-upside prospect with relatively little past basketball experience, and while he played some meaningful minutes off the bench in frontcourt support over each of his three seasons in Lexington, the potential that many saw as a recruit was never fully realized. All told, Ware scored 140 points, grabbed 170 rebounds and played 705 minutes in 77 career games as a Wildcat before leaving the program this offseason for a fresh start at Villanova.

Outlook for 2023-24: The Villanova Wildcats had a tough first season under new head coach Kyle Neptune, who took over after Hall of Fame coach Jay Wright’s surprising retirement last year. Nova will return two of its top three starters from last season’s 17-17 team, and ex-Washington State guard TJ Bamba leads a transfer contingent that includes Ware, who will be looking for a bigger role in his fourth year of college basketball. ESPN has Villanova at No. 18 in its latest batch of way-too-early 2023-24 rankings, and CBS Sports’ Gary Parrish ranks the Wildcats at No. 24 nationally. (Kentucky is No. 24 and No. 25 on those lists, respectively.)

SAHVIR WHEELER Current school: Washington Years at UK: 2021-23

Career so far: Wheeler was an immediate contributor as a freshman at Georgia and led the SEC in assists as a sophomore before leaving for Kentucky, where he once again led the league in that category during his first season with the Wildcats. Wheeler was on track to top the SEC in assists per game yet again this past season before injuries derailed his fourth year of college. He teased a return for the NCAA Tournament but ultimately did not play in any of UK’s final 11 games to end the season. Wheeler was the first Wildcat to enter the transfer portal this offseason and heads to Washington for his final year of college. He finished his UK career at No. 14 on the program’s all-time assists list despite playing just 51 games for the Cats.

Outlook for 2023-24: Wheeler’s stated goal for this coming season is to lead the nation in assists per game, and the Huskies might need that kind of production to make it back to the NCAA Tournament for the first time in five years. Washington will be a veteran-heavy team with six impact seniors, including Wheeler and former teammate Keion Brooks, who led the team in scoring last season and also returns for one final year of college basketball.

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A bunch of players running to places that don't know anything about them. How's Wheeler going to lead anything in APG, when he literally dribbles the air out of the ball?
 
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So how would that group look like as a team?

PG: Wheeler, Askew
SG: Reeves (assumed), Fredrick, Baker
SF: Hopkins, Allen, Payne
PF: Brooks, Fletcher
C: Collins, Ware

That looks like a good mid-major capable (but far from a lock) of winning most leagues and going into NCAA-T as a 10-12 seed.

I think you would see something like:
Wheeler 28mpg 9-2 (& 6 ast)
Askew 12mpg 3-1
Reeves 28mpg 15-2
Fredrick 10mpg 4-1
Baker 2mpg 1-0
Hopkins 30mpg 14-8
Allen 4mpg 1-1
Payne 1mpg 0-0
Brooks 26mpg 13-6
Fletcher 19mpg 8-4
Collins 28mpg 10-7 (& 2 blk)
Ware 12mpg 3-4 (& 1 blk)
 
Sure,,,,,,,,,,,it would fill a team.

But it wouldn't be a very good one and definitely not what we are looking for.

Then again I suppose it's better than .........having seven players lol.
 
So how would that group look like as a team?

PG: Wheeler, Askew
SG: Reeves (assumed), Fredrick, Baker
SF: Hopkins, Allen, Payne
PF: Brooks, Fletcher
C: Collins, Ware

That looks like a good mid-major capable (but far from a lock) of winning most leagues and going into NCAA-T as a 10-12 seed.

I think you would see something like:
Wheeler 28mpg 9-2 (& 6 ast)
Askew 12mpg 3-1
Reeves 28mpg 15-2
Fredrick 10mpg 4-1
Baker 2mpg 1-0
Hopkins 30mpg 14-8
Allen 4mpg 1-1
Payne 1mpg 0-0
Brooks 26mpg 13-6
Fletcher 19mpg 8-4
Collins 28mpg 10-7 (& 2 blk)
Ware 12mpg 3-4 (& 1 blk)
After looking at what we have now and the list of the players that still play college basketball. Could you make a Top 4 team? I just see lack of talent to choose from, I would take Hopkins and Reeves, other then that my team is on the floor.
 
After looking at what we have now and the list of the players that still play college basketball. Could you make a Top 4 team? I just see lack of talent to choose from, I would take Hopkins and Reeves, other then that my team is on the floor.
I'd take Hopkins and Reeves back. Probably Collins too. I'd consider Fletcher, if he wasn't going to pout on the bench. That's it.
 
Nobody wants to play for Cal after they get to know him.

Hr can’t retain players and (along with his Poot in game coaching) it has destroyed our program.

Any other coach would have been fired by now for this colossal mismanagement if Kentucky basketball.
 
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