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How good is Quickley

I'd temper expectations. Like some have posted already, he's good, not great at most things.

Definitely not as good as Brandon Knight.

Arguably the best PG (I think it's Garland, but they're all close) in a down PG class. So take that for what it's worth. I'm just hoping this pushes us over the edge in the Zion recruitment.
 
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Of the few million amateur basketball players in America, Quickley might be the best point guard.


Some of you need to reconsider your perception when discussing elite recruits. Yes, he’s not the next John Wall. Who the hell cares? The kid is one of the top 10 players in the nation, and one of the top 3 high school point guards in the nation – a nation that has millions of high school basketball players.

We’re talking a huge-ass sample size, and he’s near the top of the freaking mountain.
 
I'd temper expectations. Like some have posted already, he's good, not great at most things.

Definitely not as good as Brandon Knight.

Arguably the best PG (I think it's Garland, but they're all close) in a down PG class. So take that for what it's worth. I'm just hoping this pushes us over the edge in the Zion recruitment.



While it’s good to keep a level-head regarding Quickley, you make it sound like he’s some fringe 4 star with the "good not great" line. Fact is, he's established himself as a great, but not transcendent player. That doesn't equate "good" at anything. That equates "great" at a whole hell of a lot. Transcendent? Nope, but how many of them are?

Yes, inflating expectations is a silly thing to do, but so is downplaying the potential of a top 10 player.
 
While it’s good to keep a level-head regarding Quickley, you make it sound like he’s some fringe 4 star with the "good not great" line. Fact is, he's established himself as a great, but not transcendent player. That doesn't equate "good" at anything. That equates "great" at a whole hell of a lot. Transcendent? Nope, but how many of them are?

Yes, inflating expectations is a silly thing to do, but so is downplaying the potential of a top 10 player.
Preach it SOS... still my fav..
 
While it’s good to keep a level-head regarding Quickley, you make it sound like he’s some fringe 4 star with the "good not great" line. Fact is, he's established himself as a great, but not transcendent player. That doesn't equate "good" at anything. That equates "great" at a whole hell of a lot. Transcendent? Nope, but how many of them are?

Yes, inflating expectations is a silly thing to do, but so is downplaying the potential of a top 10 player.

He's possibly a top 10 player once the final rankings come out next spring, probably safer to say top 20, but this is a down class. It's Barrett, Zion, and Reddish and a bunch of other dudes.

Could be wrong, but Fox, Monk, Bam were around the 7,8,9,10th rank in their class.

Quickley is no Fox, Monk, or Bam.
 
Hey westerncat don't worry about that crap. You are a good person and poster. Your one of my favorites posters. u9k brought nothing of substance with his post. Must be a grammar cop or English teacher. Your post was about basketball and his wasn't! Continue on.
Lol no one blasted the guy, it was just harmless teasing.

Chill out SJW
 
He's possibly a top 10 player once the final rankings come out next spring, probably safer to say top 20, but this is a down class. It's Barrett, Zion, and Reddish and a bunch of other dudes.

Could be wrong, but Fox, Monk, Bam were around the 7,8,9,10th rank in their class.

Quickley is no Fox, Monk, or Bam.

That class was extremely strong in the top 10ish, arguably as strong as 2007, especially for guards.

Quickley is your more typical fringe top ten guy. He's safely, saaafely inside 20. He's not fox, but I'm expecting him to be just as good as or better than the freshmen Harrison's, Teague, lamb, Bledsoe, etc.
 
That class was extremely strong in the top 10ish, arguably as strong as 2007, especially for guards.

Quickley is your more typical fringe top ten guy. He's safely, saaafely inside 20. He's not fox, but I'm expecting him to be just as good as or better than the freshmen Harrison's, Teague, lamb, Bledsoe, etc.



Funny after 5 games last year some fans was wanting Fox to be benched. Thank goodness CAL knew what he was doing.
 
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He's possibly a top 10 player once the final rankings come out next spring, probably safer to say top 20, but this is a down class. It's Barrett, Zion, and Reddish and a bunch of other dudes.

Could be wrong, but Fox, Monk, Bam were around the 7,8,9,10th rank in their class.

Quickley is no Fox, Monk, or Bam.
Bol Bol isn’t “another dude” but I’m just nitpicking
 
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Love having a PG who can shoot. Just opens things up for everyone else.
 
Knight is/was a stud. Stat wise you could argue he is was everybit as good as Wall was here and shot it from 3 at 37%
 
Knight is/was a stud. Stat wise you could argue he is was everybit as good as Wall was here and shot it from 3 at 37%
Hmm. Stat-wise I suppose you COULD argue that. But anyone who saw them play would never make such an argument. Knight was great but Wall was a freak. He made entire defenses look stupid.
 
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Needs to finish better in traffic. Doesn't absorb contact very well from what I've seen of him.

Also has a bit of a slow/low release, which is why I think he's better off the ball for now as a catch and shoot guy instead of trying to shoot off the dribble..

Needs to fine tune his playmaking too.


Well this is the first sign that Cal can no longer judge talent. Why in the world did we offer?
 
Knight is/was a stud. Stat wise you could argue he is was everybit as good as Wall was here and shot it from 3 at 37%
I assume the "is" is a typo. It should be clear that's not the case now. I'd also say it was clear back then but that argument is several years past being a waste of time.
 
Certain posters would have called him all-world had he picked another school.. but he will have to settle for pretty okay since he chose "our" school.
 
I'd temper expectations. Like some have posted already, he's good, not great at most things.

Definitely not as good as Brandon Knight.

Arguably the best PG (I think it's Garland, but they're all close) in a down PG class. So take that for what it's worth. I'm just hoping this pushes us over the edge in the Zion recruitment.
I mostly agree, but there's still a decent comparison to be made to Knight in terms of style of play. Knight was a tallish point whose offensive game was built around his jumper (too much so, IMO). That's Quickley right now, although I don't think he's anywhere near as trigger-happy as Knight was. And Quickley isn't as athletic as Knight, but the upside is that he's a more efficient player, more of a pure point than Knight ever really was.
 
I'd temper expectations. Like some have posted already, he's good, not great at most things.

Definitely not as good as Brandon Knight.

Arguably the best PG (I think it's Garland, but they're all close) in a down PG class. So take that for what it's worth. I'm just hoping this pushes us over the edge in the Zion recruitment.

What makes you think he’s not as good as Brandon Knight ?
 
What makes you think he’s not as good as Brandon Knight ?

Because I played against Brandon Knight in AAU.

Watched Quickley this past summer in AAU.

Knight was a bonafide scorer. He could go get you a bucket. Quickley is more of a setup man, but has the ability to hit the catch and shoot jumper (albeit not consistently yet).
 
LOL. You make him sound like the point guard for my son's AAU team, who is entertaining offers from D-III schools. I'm pretty sure a guy who everyone rates as the best or one of the 2-3 best point guards out of the 100,000 or so kids in his cohort playing that position across America is better than a set-up man with an inconsistent jumper. I was too busy to get out and see him play this summer but I have lots of contacts in Maryland youth ball who rave about the kid as a shooter, decision-maker, ball handler and team leader. He averaged 24 ppg and 7.2 assists against the best competition in Baltimore and the Maryland suburbs of DC, which is pretty good.

Don’t hate me when I’m right.

He won’t be an impact freshman and won’t be OAD.

Glad to have him aboard though. Probably the easiest of the top PGs to get (although I prefer Garland and maybe even Grimes), but hope he helps with Zion.
 
My prediction is that you'll be back here in roughly a year noting how you WERE right about him a year ago. But, low and behold, he got a hell of a lot better in the past year and now is ready to be among the handful of best college PGs on the court in 2018-19. Don't worry. We'll politely give you a pass.

If you’re expecting Quickley to be as good as Knight (who set the freshman scoring record), you will be disappointed.

I’m expecting we get 1 of 2 back between Quade and Shai. Hopefully, Barrett will be our starting shooting guard. That would mean Quickley will be coming off the bench, probably in a similar role that Shai Alexander will play this year.
 
I never said he'd be as good as Knight. I said he'd be better than your characterization of "a set-up man with an inconsistent shot." I expect a guy in the range of Andrew Harrison, Marques Teague, Tyler Ulis, though not exactly like any of those guys -- but like them, much better than your damning with faint praise. All those guys played in the Final Four as freshmen, I'd note, as successful point guards at the top level of college basketball.

Anyway, we'll know a lot more in a year. I'm excited as hell about having this kid at Kentucky.

Lol and yet you continue to list setup men with inconsistent shots...

And those guys played in Final Fours as freshmen because of guys named Julius Randle/Aaron Harrison, Anthony Davis/MKG/TJones, and KAT/WCS/Harrison’s.

If we’re in the Final Four next year, it won’t be mostly due to Quickley’s play. It’ll be because Barrett/Zion/any notable returnees.
 
Lol and yet you continue to list setup men with inconsistent shots...

And those guys played in Final Fours as freshmen because of guys named Julius Randle/Aaron Harrison, Anthony Davis/MKG/TJones, and KAT/WCS/Harrison’s.

If we’re in the Final Four next year, it won’t be mostly due to Quickley’s play. It’ll be because Barrett/Zion/any notable returnees.

If Quickley is freshman Harrison/Teague he's an impact freshman. Those guys weren't the primary factors in their respective team's success, but they were really good players, and absolutely had significant impacts on their squads.
 
You seem to think the Kentucky point guards who got the Cats to recent Final Fours were along for the ride. Maybe you don't understand what a point guard does. The idea that a successful point guard must be either an athletic freak like John Wall (who didn't get the Cats to the FF despite Cousins/Patterson/Bledsoe) or a prolific 3-point shooter like Brandon Knight is ill-informed. And to characterize Harrison, Teague and Ulis as "set-up men with an inconsistent shot" badly misses what they contributed.

Quickly will run the team like a coach on the court, make the appropriate pass much more often than not, be a clutch shooter (he has a track record of hitting game winning shots, including to take the Maryland Catholic League Championship this year with a buzzer-beating 3) defend well and break down defenses with deceptive quickness. Anyone who wants more from a point guard than that should be watching All Star exhibitions, not real games.

Lol. I’m clearly not changing your mind and you’re getting off topic. But you’ll be wrong. Quickley will come off the bench, most likely, and won’t contribute too much his freshman year. Thus, not an impact freshman.
 
If Quickley is freshman Harrison/Teague he's an impact freshman. Those guys weren't the primary factors in their respective team's success, but they were really good players, and absolutely had significant impacts on their squads.

Guess our definitions of “impact freshman” differ.
 
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