Other teams run wide open schemes. Obviously, there is plenty of film of their scheme. But, they still get a guy wide open multiple times a game. How?
How does TN get receivers so wide open?
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It's kinda like in BB where you have a coach who refuses change and keeps running archaic offenses. Same thing in football
At the pace they run, alone with being very athletic a moment of hesitation/confusion and there he is running wide open. I think you have to be able to match up with them athletically and keep things simple. Of course getting pressure on QB is key.
When you get confused and the guy runs past you, game over. Me thinks you combat this by simplifying the defense.
I think their coaches excel at creating routes that isolate and overload db’s, forcing them into impossible situations. The pace they play at often keeps defenses from substituting based on down and distance and when they see the defensive personnel they like, you’re kinda at their mercy
Because they have a true offensive mind/coach that is also the Head Coach
First of all I think it’s because they have receivers that can win a 1 on 1 fifty percent of the time. We have no one that can do that. Now, that means you have to have your safety help. They run two receivers into the same zone. One breaks off short one continues downfield. The safety is then forced to chose which receiver to help on. In our game the safety chose to help the short route an our DB thought the safety would pick up his man going deep and they let him go. That equals wide open.
Look some of it is clearly some player ability but they put their guys extremely wide and they have a ton of ‘rub’ plays where the db’s have to make a quick choice off the line. And truth be told, I’m seeing it across college fb, the officials are going to have to get better at calling the picks the offensive players are getting to where they aren’t even trying to pretend they are legitimate route rub offs anymore. I was watching the arky/Kansas game the other night and a scoring play for arky was one receiver running out and blocking the db before the qb even turned his shoulders to throw that side of the field. Officials have gotten lax with calling that stuff
Played for Leach at Oklahoma maybe. Can't remember if Leach was still there or not.
He played for Leach his junior year. Idk why, but I didn't realize Mike Stoops was Co-DC for OU when they won the championship. Mark Mangino was the OC. Bob Stoops coaching tree is pretty crazy.
Probably also helped that they had a heisman qb that could get out of the pocket, scramble to make a pass, or run for plenty of yards.
The defense has to account for that.
Probably had a line that gave him more than 1.2 seconds before getting pressured as well.
The defense has to account for that.
Probably had a line that gave him more than 1.2 seconds before getting pressured as well.
They snap the ball before ppl get off the ground. It's a gimmick. And when ppl figure it out, which everyone eventually will, its not good for a coach that really has no care at all about the other side of the ball.
Ask USCjr
Ask USCjr
Talented WRs. Heupel and co figure out what a WR does well and does that well. Hyatt is fast so he goes downfield. Bru is physical so the throw curls to him and let him beat up on the DBs. People can call it a gimmick but any team can do what we do. They scored 31 or more points on 12 out of 13 opponents and the one that stopped was the best defense in America. They’ll have great WRs next year too. Squirrel White was amazing in relief of Hyatt. Bru is meaner than a wet hen and they’re probably about to land Donte Thornton from Oregon. 4.3/4.4 speed but he’s 6-5. Also, idk if he will contribute a ton next year, but Nathan Leacock will compete for a Biletnikoff award.
He’s been running it for a decade plus now. He’s had a top 7 scoring offense every year as a HC. Don’t really see that trailing off. You honestly have to have the best defense in the country to stop it when it’s clicking.
It’s called coaching and creative play design! They actually have a coach that wants to score points in ways other than screen passes and running it up the middle.
It's the scheme. They rush everything knowing the defense will have trouble getting organized, thus increasin gthe chance of blown coverage each play and since they have practiced this pace repeatedly they are betting they make less mistakes. Success is predicated upon having an accurate/quick processing QB, Oline talent and depth because their conditioning will be tested and lastly athletic WR with depth. Their QB thrived and he had exceptional WR talent. The QB and best WR are gone, so it remains to be seen if they can keep it up to that level.
South Carolina was drubbing Tennessee even before Hooker got hurt. Study their film.
They still allowed 38 points and Hooker didn’t play for 40% of the game. The defense didn’t show up. UK will never have an offense than can take advantage of that.
Hooker was injured in the fourth QTR with 11:28 left in the game. He missed less than 20% of the game. They were down 49-31 when he left.
Agree
Heupel starts with tempo whose first purpose is to get the defense on their heels and take the defenses aggression away because they are leaning back trying to defend instead of leaning forward.
Then he spreads you out so that he has spacing to run several routes without congestion.
Then he coaches a balls to walls style of route running into his WR and RBs. They run free and lose and all out. the spacing and tempo help this. Good athletes who play loose and free play fast! Its kind of like Pitino back in the day, the pressure was one thing but the way it made his guys play loose and free was the trick.
Then he designs his routes to always create confusion with the Safeties and LBs. He will run two guys parallel towards a safety in an area to where they have to make last minute decisions on their heels and as you say when they hesitate for one second the WR has two steps on them. He does the same with LB making them chase RB on wheel routes.
Its not just one of those things its the combination that makes it work IMO.
And his philosphy is even if we dont get a guy open throw it up anyway because we more than 50% chance of a catch or penalty.
I think the only way to defend is to play really tight and physical bump and run on the corners and bring heat to try and get after the QB as much as possible. You just cant let them run free off the line that easy.
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Oh man?!? No shit? Best way to beat UGA is just get a whole lot of TDs. Who cares if their defense is 01 Hurricanes level. Just do it.
Once again, the defense didn’t show up. The offense was scoring at the pace it almost always does. To sit there and act like giving up 38 points in some great formula and they stopped Tennessees offense. They outpaced it. Bold strategy. Doubt it happens a ton.
Nah, Kirby has that high school offense on lockdown. Called the dogs off at the half because he knew UT wasn't a threat. Chumlee had a clueless expression everytime the camera took a shot of him.
Just need a little more talent. People thought Bama and UF had it locked down in 2021 too. If UK’s (or any other school that’s not UGA) plan to stop UTs offense is “just do what UGA did” I have some terrible news for them. Their defense has been trying that for 2 yrs now. You ain’t got the Jimmies and Joes.
They play uptempo and call plays at the line of scrimmage all the time. They use a lot of presnap motion and run picks with their receivers. They use a lot of well disguised play action, which helps to distract safeties and LBs. They split and isolate their outside receivers on the extreme outside. Importantly, their OL has protected their QBs well for the most part, which gives their receivers extra time to get open and creates an illusion that they are uncoverable. And their receivers are fast, strong, and athletic.
To me the key to beating UT is actually being able to stop the run with 5 or 6 in the box. You have to take away their play action. It’s what Pitt did in the 2nd half and what UGA did all game
Kentucky, with a healthy Levi's and Wandale Robinson and with Cohen calling the plays in 2021, lost to Tennessee 45-43. With Cohen back and Leary throwing to our stable of receivers, from where I'm sitting I can see Kentucky averaging in the 30's and beating Tennessee next year in a close one.
Tennessee was still learning the offense. Just like Leary and these young WRs will be too. Coens not in the boat either. You also had NFL OLs and a RB that got 6+ ypc. You have neither now.
2 games, 30 total points, 14 after games were over, he has it figured out, Chumlee looking like someone stole his lunch money everytime a camera was on him. He can't adjust his offense to someone who can match up athletes with him. He is lost.
That is not accurate. Heupel cares plenty about defense, but the defensive side of the ball was especially decimated by transfers when Pruitt was fired, and you don't rebuild overnight. But Heupel has done a good job of addressing defensive needs in the last 2 classes, especially this '23 class, and is working to bring in at least 1 more DL through the portal. The D actually made a good jump from 90th overall in '21 to 36th overall in '22, despite the depleted secondary and LB corp. I expect the D to be even more improved next season, although it is possible the O may not be quite as potent depending on how Milton is week in and week out as the starter.
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