Honestly Hagans can’t hold Water’s Jock
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This should put an end to any notion that Hagans will go pro. He's not ready at all. Neither is Herro or surprisingly Keldon.
How is one game going to put a notion to any Kentucky guy going pro ?
There many guards better than Hagans..Dotson at KU is way better..Cal has to pass on these guys that can't shoot..
Yea but that’s not going to silence the notion of people believing players are going pro on this message board
Hagans has really regressed. Can't beat anyone off the dribble and when he actually does he fumbles the ball. Combine that with no outside shot and if hes not getting steals hes a net negative.
Hagans HAS to be a more consistent shooter for the pick and roll we run to work. Otherwise, they just back off him and deny all entry passes.
Hagans has been bad for several games in a row
I love Hagans, but he played tentative tonight. That foul in the first minute of the game just shut him down.
Water was a nuisance and a disruptor. Hagans didn't do any of that on defense tonight, usually his strength.
Kid had an off night...it happens. 3 other players couldn't bail him out
Water was a nuisance and a disruptor. Hagans didn't do any of that on defense tonight, usually his strength.
Kid had an off night...it happens. 3 other players couldn't bail him out
Yeah, I was loving me some Ashton Hagans in late December/early January. He’s looked more like November Hagans the last couple weeks.
He doesnt even have to be consistent. Just hit one or two. I mean hes not even close. The one he hit was even a brick.
We took Quade over Waters. Waters loved UK. Of course Shai emerged last year
You embarrass yourself when you say he's a poor on ball defender. He has plenty of weaknesses, but that isn't even close to being one of them.
You saw Waters in the McDonald's game? Really? That would be really hard to do considering he wasn't in that game.
I thought he said over a year ago he wasn't recruiting any more kids who can't shoot. Just more bs from Cal.
Do you watch the games he got smoked by Peters and again tonight. He made his reputation off steals but he constantly gets beat off dribble. Waters just toyed with him- plus he makes us play 4 on 5 on offense
Hagans has to shoot those 10-15 footer when he gets in the lane. He was wide open a couple of times. The thing that concerns me is he is not disrupting on defense like he was. That is made him so valuable.
Baker and Herro don't get passes either. Hit the wide open 3's guys. Good grief.
Baker and Herro don't get passes either. Hit the wide open 3's guys. Good grief.
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It's been reported AH wants to be OAD. That's his choice. He will never play in the NBA unless he can fix his shot.
He certainly won't be in the first round this year. But, unless he plans to spend a great deal of time working on his shot it doesn't matter if he comes back or not.
He certainly won't be in the first round this year. But, unless he plans to spend a great deal of time working on his shot it doesn't matter if he comes back or not.
Well I wouldn't say that. Ashton could be a Rondo type, he just needs to hone his passing craft a couple more years.
We'd be up shits creek without a paddle without Hagans. The way some fans here can turn on a player that's been the backbone of our good play since Quade left is beyond me. Bad games happen.
It’s like he realized immediately he couldn’t stay in front of Waters on defense - and instead of understanding that, understanding no one can stay in front of that kid, and figuring out how to compensate and what else he could do to help his team win.....it got in his head. Like “I do one thing better than anything else, and it doesn’t work against this guy.”
As for the thread generally, you know, everyone has a bad game every once in a while. In sports, in any endeavor, there are people who are pretty good at a given thing, and if you see them on a bad day, you can convince yourself they’re not very good at that thing. But that’s not a smart take.
Hagans denied the ball to waters last possession, waters shot 3-13 and 1 for 5 from 3, 2 to...for the game..if you watched the game you would see that the 2 Ricky touch fouls really impacts his ability to presure the ball. It's ain't on Hagans head, it's on the team.
Miss assignments, ball watching, keldon couldn't stop the ball and EJ didn't put a body on the offensive rebounder...
Missed call etc.
You all are stupid for forgetting who turned the season around, who single handedly beat unc
He's not been a scoring machine but his defense and passing have definitely been good. Over the last 4 games hes averaged roughly 6ppg, 6apg, 4rpg and 2spg. Hes out there to be the 5th scoring option while being the facilitator for the other 4 which hes 6 assists per game shows. He just had a bad night where Waters speed combined with his foul trouble kept him out. But before tonight Hagans had been playing very good basketball. No coincidence his scoring went down and assists went up at the same time as PJs emergence.
Oh, I'm sure there's some team out there dying to bring in a one-dimensional point guard who can't shoot. I'm serious, too. This kid is gone.
Maybe he can get more lethal shooters like Mulder and Baker, who don't make any shots in big games when they're wide open.
Hagans is in a slump.
As for tonight, his early fouls were a big part of it.
Hopefully he breaks out of it soon. Even his defensive confidence is down. And the good shots he’s given, he rarely takes. Gotta knock down a few to get the D honest.
Most importantly for him, has to take better care of the ball. Even when he was hot (UNC up until recently) he turned it over too much.
As for tonight, his early fouls were a big part of it.
Hopefully he breaks out of it soon. Even his defensive confidence is down. And the good shots he’s given, he rarely takes. Gotta knock down a few to get the D honest.
Most importantly for him, has to take better care of the ball. Even when he was hot (UNC up until recently) he turned it over too much.
Not what I recall. He was a 5'11" 4 star guard out of Connecticut. Ranked #40, well behind Quade and Shai and even behind Shai's cousin who plays for VT. And remember UK also offered Trae Young and John Petty in that class.
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