Guy thinks the top .1% of basketball recruits are basing their college decision on Campus, building, and teacher quality along with class size LOL
All the girls down there love the YMCA song. Especially doing the first letter.I used to have a friend that went to Duke when I lived in WV/VA, we had both just graduated. She was okay looking, I met some of her friends, less than stellar. Nice people tho
But then you go to Bama, Clemson, UGA, USC, etc that’s where it’s at
Is Duke’s campus exactly what you would expect it to be?
I just looked through the Cooper Flagg post a bit and most everyone seems pretty certain that if he goes to college, it’ll be Duke.
I didn’t come from top 5% wealth or really anything like that, but I’m white, my family was in decent financial shape. I excelled in academics. I wasn’t much of an athlete, but I was a pretty solid fencer until the program fell apart. I’m getting off track…
I started college at CCU and ended at UK and can honestly say that as much as I love Kentucky sports; I hated every minute of attending classes at UK. Classes too large, campus too large, buildings very hit or miss, teachers definitely hit or miss. The point is, coming from a somewhat privileged, white background with emphasis on academics…if I have the choice to go to UK for free or Duke for free…I’m going to Duke. I think that’s a reality we have to accept as UK sports fans.
With their legs!All the girls down there love the YMCA song. Especially doing the first letter.
Um, yeah sure....Matt Jones agrees with you 100% and Ryan Lemond agrees with Matt 150%.
He went to Duke Law School and never considered UK Law
He can tell you everything about the philosophy of law and theory of law, but if you need to get out of jail, you better hire a UK Law graduate.
Duke Law is good training for selling mattresses and chicken wings but not for actual lawyering
That’s because at Duke you have to be a POC, a Minority, or Uber Rich and smart to get accepted.Duke would be difficult to turn down if you were the upper middle class private academy educated most likely white kid. The campus is more collegiate than anything UK can offer. And NOW....... students from North Carolina who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year can get a tuition waiver and attend Duke for no tuition charge.
The catch is that in all of North Carolina there might be a half-dozen kids who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year and kids who posess the academic credentials to be accepted at Duke.
Disclaimer 1) The acceptance standards are different if you are a top prospect athlete.
Disclaimer 2) I am a retired high school counselor. In 29 years working at three different high schools in this state, I NEVER had one of my students accepted at Duke. Not one time. Chapel Hill - yes. UK - yes. UT - yes. Notre Dame - yes. Penn - yes. Clemson - yes. South Carolina - yes. MIT - yes. Yale - yes. Southern California - yes. Arizona State - yes. Wake Forest - yes. Georgia Tech - yes. Many others - yes.
But not a single one at Duke.
I went there when I lived in Charlotte. Easy directions, Go south til you smell it and east til you step in it!!Is Duke’s campus exactly what you would expect it to be?
I just looked through the Cooper Flagg post a bit and most everyone seems pretty certain that if he goes to college, it’ll be Duke.
I didn’t come from top 5% wealth or really anything like that, but I’m white, my family was in decent financial shape. I excelled in academics. I wasn’t much of an athlete, but I was a pretty solid fencer until the program fell apart. I’m getting off track…
I started college at CCU and ended at UK and can honestly say that as much as I love Kentucky sports; I hated every minute of attending classes at UK. Classes too large, campus too large, buildings very hit or miss, teachers definitely hit or miss. The point is, coming from a somewhat privileged, white background with emphasis on academics…if I have the choice to go to UK for free or Duke for free…I’m going to Duke. I think that’s a reality we have to accept as UK sports fans.
Thing is that the average ACT and SAT score of instate students at both UNC and Duke are in the same 21-24 range that is at most public universities. The increased academic prestige is that they only accept top of the line out of state students that have 25+ scores and often in the top 10%.The catch is that in all of North Carolina there might be a half-dozen kids who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year and kids who posess the academic credentials to be accepted at Duke.
These are the kinds of commitments Duke somehow seems to get too. Never have to sweat it out or be a hat on the table. Wrap it up early after the Nike money comes in and promises are made. This one will likely be over soon with no real competition. Kid should just go pro though.Flagg is at Duke today. Kind of an under the radar visit. It seemed to come out of nowhere. We might hear something soon.
I like it a lot. My old company had a twilight (walking 9 holes, but you could keep playing till dark) golf league there (was only $22). It’s an older course. It’s also where I got my hole-in-one. It’s better than UNC course. But Duke is expensive as F*** (like $150 on weekend). NC St has the best all-around course in the area.What did you think of the Golf Course?
I had Stanford University Pension Fund as a long term client and the campus, surrounding hills, and Palo Alto created an incredible combination for frequent visitsI can't believe that the admission requirements are greater at Duke than MIT, Yale, or even Georgia Tech.
If I picked a college by the physical campus, I'd go to Pepperdine or Stanford
Not true at all. Lots of smart kids here. The #1 ranked public school in the nation is in Durham (Durham Math and Science) My girlfriend’s son went there about 10 years ago.The catch is that in all of North Carolina there might be a half-dozen kids who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year and kids who posess the academic credentials to be accepted at Duke.
I don't, no, I KNOW there is nowhere in this country I would want a rabid dog suffering from worms and severe diarrhea fart directly on my forehead while I'm eating spaghetti and meatballs for dinner rather than me walk onto those grounds. Damn man, that's some unhealthy hatred you have going on there!!I'd rather have a rabid dog suffering from worms and severe diarrhea fart directly on my forehead while I'm eating spaghetti and meatballs for dinner, than to step foot on the Puke campus.
Hasn't happened, won't ever happen.
What 90 said.This makes sense if your goal is to get an actual degree and pursue a normal entry-level job in the real world.
But I don't see why it should make a damn bit of difference if you're a basketball player who's just planning on making a brief pit stop there before entering the pros. Which is what nearly all the top recruits are nowadays.
The tuition waiver deal is also extended to South Carolina students I believe....And NOW....... students from North Carolina who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year can get a tuition waiver and attend Duke for no tuition charge.
It is a really good school. But like most schools it really depends on your major. Duke is known for its Business school. Med school and Law are both good too, as is their PolSci. Engineering is not a strength, my son was better off going to NC St for engineering.Duke sounds overrated for academics. Strict admission don’t fool me.
Here's the question.....would you rather date a Kentucky gal or a pUKe gal??Is Duke’s campus exactly what you would expect it to be?
I just looked through the Cooper Flagg post a bit and most everyone seems pretty certain that if he goes to college, it’ll be Duke.
I didn’t come from top 5% wealth or really anything like that, but I’m white, my family was in decent financial shape. I excelled in academics. I wasn’t much of an athlete, but I was a pretty solid fencer until the program fell apart. I’m getting off track…
I started college at CCU and ended at UK and can honestly say that as much as I love Kentucky sports; I hated every minute of attending classes at UK. Classes too large, campus too large, buildings very hit or miss, teachers definitely hit or miss. The point is, coming from a somewhat privileged, white background with emphasis on academics…if I have the choice to go to UK for free or Duke for free…I’m going to Duke. I think that’s a reality we have to accept as UK sports fans.
Duke would be difficult to turn down if you were the upper middle class private academy educated most likely white kid. The campus is more collegiate than anything UK can offer. And NOW....... students from North Carolina who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year can get a tuition waiver and attend Duke for no tuition charge.
The catch is that in all of North Carolina there might be a half-dozen kids who's parents earn less than $150,000 per year and kids who posess the academic credentials to be accepted at Duke.
Disclaimer 1) The acceptance standards are different if you are a top prospect athlete.
Disclaimer 2) I am a retired high school counselor. In 29 years working at three different high schools in this state, I NEVER had one of my students accepted at Duke. Not one time. Chapel Hill - yes. UK - yes. UT - yes. Notre Dame - yes. Penn - yes. Clemson - yes. South Carolina - yes. MIT - yes. Yale - yes. Southern California - yes. Arizona State - yes. Wake Forest - yes. Georgia Tech - yes. Many others - yes.
But not a single one at Duke.
If you made your college choice among Vandy, UNC, and Duke because you didn’t like one school’s basketball arena, you are a moron.When I went through the college search (ended up at Vandy) i had been accepted to both UNC and Duke and went on tours of each campus. ….The actual thing that swayed my decision to vandy was that Cameron Indoor was a high school gym dropped inside a church.
The turn in this conversation reminds me of an old joke about blue devil coeds: “The odds are good, but the goods are odd.” 😎Here's the question.....would you rather date a Kentucky gal or a pUKe gal??
Lol more reasons from that—from Missouri and Nashville is closer to home and a cooler place to live. All 3 are very good academically. But yeah, Duke fans are annoying enough so I chose not to listen to them for 4 yearsIf you made your college choice among Vandy, UNC, and Duke because you didn’t like one school’s basketball arena, you are a moron
Alex: I will take, something that no one has ever said to the OP?Guy thinks the top .1% of basketball recruits are basing their college decision on Campus, building, and teacher quality along with class size LOL
and the sky is blue...UK is huge..... typically the smaller colleges have a better small college feel. WKU I went to my freshman year and loved it. You can walk to just about anywhere.
Kinda whiny.Is Duke’s campus exactly what you would expect it to be?
I just looked through the Cooper Flagg post a bit and most everyone seems pretty certain that if he goes to college, it’ll be Duke.
I didn’t come from top 5% wealth or really anything like that, but I’m white, my family was in decent financial shape. I excelled in academics. I wasn’t much of an athlete, but I was a pretty solid fencer until the program fell apart. I’m getting off track…
I started college at CCU and ended at UK and can honestly say that as much as I love Kentucky sports; I hated every minute of attending classes at UK. Classes too large, campus too large, buildings very hit or miss, teachers definitely hit or miss. The point is, coming from a somewhat privileged, white background with emphasis on academics…if I have the choice to go to UK for free or Duke for free…I’m going to Duke. I think that’s a reality we have to accept as UK sports fans.
While Durham once was a nasty place, it is much better now. Yes there are lots of Northeasterners that have moved to Durham and the rest of “the Triangle”. That is because the region is one of the most desirable and fastest growing regions in the country. And I love Lexington too.Durham is a dump. Look at the data. Lots of bad numbers. Very few southern people. Predominate northeast. No wonder so few native North Carolinians there, it is only located in North Carolina.
Lexington on the other had is a very desirable place to be. Look at the data.
You clearly wouldn’t be getting accepted with grammar like that…hard to be swayed when you don’t have a shot anyway!I’ve been, beautiful campus it not one where I’d see any kid swayed by it alone.
True.If you made your college choice among Vandy, UNC, and Duke because you didn’t like one school’s basketball arena, you are a moron.
You sound super weird, and I'm originally from Harlan co. as far into east KY as you can get (houston now). I graduated from UK in 04 and never had a class past soph yr with more than 20 or 25. one class only had 9 students and we all sat around one table.Because I was sprinkling in some of the mindset of the demographic. Fencing is a sport that you would associate with uppity people. And the white part…I mean that’s always a central talking point on this board when it comes to recruits that end up at Duke. I kind of feel the need to clear something up here in defense of myself. Despite my inherently gifted brain, and my cushier childhood, I didn’t succeed in life by American standards. My family had a ton of intelligence on both sides, but also a ton of significant mental health issues. I completely went off the rails in my 20s and have spent most of the last decade+ struggling both financially and with overall well being. On top of that, most of my family roots are from the hollers of Eastern Kentucky and the tobacco and cattle farms of Central, Kentucky. My favorite people are smart hillbillies and that’s usually who I find myself around the most (I don’t consider hillbilly to be a derogatory term, but a way of life). The original post was only to illustrate the mindset of well off white kids and why they are more likely to end up at Duke than UK if all other things are held equal. Once upon a time, my parents were considering enrolling me at Sayre. Duke vs UK is kinda like Sayre vs say, Bourbon County HS. Going to Sayre carries prestige. As long as you don’t totally F up…the connections you can make there and being able to put Sayre School on college applications will open a lot of doors.