Doesn't count. He quit during the season before they won the championship because he wanted more playing time. Kids back then were lazy and entitled and wouldn't wait their turn and earn it so they took easy transfer route.
Thanks, TusconCat. I appreciate the correction. Though he quit, it was not the season before they won the championship. It was after playing three games in this season...their second consecutive championship season. He was on the opening day roster and the official team picture as Jon Scott captured in the link.Doesn't count. He quit during the season before they won the championship because he wanted more playing time. Kids back then were lazy and entitled and wouldn't wait their turn and earn it so they took easy transfer route.
Thanks, TusconCat. I appreciate the correction. Though he quit, it was not the season before they won the championship. It was after playing three games in this season...their second consecutive championship season. He was on the opening day roster and the official team picture as Jon Scott captured in the link.
It's an interesting debate. Should a guy who quits a team after the 4th game of the season (in a 34 game season) be considered having won a title with that team?As far as I’m concerned he was part of the team that won the title. End of story.
I think nearly everybody’s answer would be a firm “no way” if the person in question wasn’t a beloved figure like Joe B.It's an interesting debate. Should a guy who quits a team after the 4th game of the season (in a 34 game season) be considered having won a title with that team?
I actually don't even think the debate is interesting. Dude quit. He wasn't on the team. Period.It's an interesting debate. Should a guy who quits a team after the 4th game of the season (in a 34 game season) be considered having won a title with that team?
It's an interesting debate. Should a guy who quits a team after the 4th game of the season (in a 34 game season) be considered having won a title with that team?
If Kentucky would have won the title in 2008, would people consider Alex Legion (who quit after the 6th game) as someone who won a title at UK?
It was even easier back then. Joe B quit UK in December, and started playing for University of the South in January. Kids of that generation just didn't care about the name on the front of the jersey, only the name on the back.Given the differences in the times I highly doubt the move was as simple as sneezing which is something good enough for players today to transfer over.
Not much of one. It’s well accepted that after you quit a team you are no longer a part of that team. And Joe B had not only long since quit …he’d already joined another team …when UK won that title.I think there’s an argument at least given how rare it is.
Not much of one. It’s well accepted that after you quit a team you are no longer a part of that team. And Joe B had not only long since quit …he’d already joined another team …when UK won that title.
It takes some convoluted logic to try to credit that title to his resume.
Hate to say it, but Scheyer also has a shot.It's some effed up and distorted logic to say Hall did it IMO. He was playing for another team the same season UK won it all.
Pope will be the first legit case of this IMO.
Hate to say it, but Scheyer also has a shot.
Hall was leading scorer at Sewanee the minute he got there. Wonder why Adolt Rump didn't play him more? Let Ralph Beards draft position dictate rotation. And Hall was a walk on and not one of Rupps prized recruits, thats why. And what if he got hurt? We couldve used Joe B, but Rump pushing him out. More worried about players getting there's than he was winning championships.Hall told a good story about leaving UK. Rupp had more talent on his squad than he could play. The team affectionately referred to the roster as the Fab Five and the Sorry Seven, and Hall belonged to the Seven. Before the team departed for SEC play, Rupp told his weakest four players that they would have to draw straws to determine who would make the trip and who would stay home. At that point, Hall approached Rupp about a transfer and Rupp gave his blessing. Rupp then helped Hall find his way to Sewanee. where Lon Varnell was coaching. Hall lost a lot of academic credits when he transferred, so he did not graduate from Sewanee. He returned to UK to finish his degree.
You can hear Hall's account in this long interview with Kyle Macy. If you only have a few minutes to listen, Hall tells the transfer story in segment 2:
Interview with Joe B. Hall, January 1, 2015
Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Librariesnunncenter.net
Why be such a douche ?It was even easier back then. Joe B quit UK in December, and started playing for University of the South in January. Kids of that generation just didn't care about the name on the front of the jersey, only the name on the back.
Again, why the douche baggery?Hall was leading scorer at Sewanee the minute he got there. Wonder why Adolt Rump didn't play him more? Let Ralph Beards draft position dictate rotation. And Hall was a walk on and not one of Rupps prized recruits, thats why. And what if he got hurt? We couldve used Joe B, but Rump pushing him out. More worried about players getting there's than he was winning championships.
Injured and ending up on another roster entirely are apples and bar stools.If he’d played in three games and torn his ACL he’d still be a Cat. And he did play minutes on that squad even if it were limited. I think your stuck with Joe B having accomplished this feat already.
Except Rupp made the right choice, seeing as he won the title that season.Hall was leading scorer at Sewanee the minute he got there. Wonder why Adolt Rump didn't play him more? Let Ralph Beards draft position dictate rotation. And Hall was a walk on and not one of Rupps prized recruits, thats why. And what if he got hurt? We couldve used Joe B, but Rump pushing him out. More worried about players getting there's than he was winning championships.
Injured and ending up on another roster entirely are apples and bar stools.
It isn't even close to the same thing.
Not if he quit. Did he get a ringAs far as I’m concerned he was part of the team that won the title. End of story.
IMO, no.It's an interesting debate. Should a guy who quits a team after the 4th game of the season (in a 34 game season) be considered having won a title with that team?
If Kentucky would have won the title in 2008, would people consider Alex Legion (who quit after the 6th game) as someone who won a title at UK?
Hall was leading scorer at Sewanee the minute he got there. Wonder why Adolt Rump didn't play him more? Let Ralph Beards draft position dictate rotation. And Hall was a walk on and not one of Rupps prized recruits, thats why. And what if he got hurt? We couldve used Joe B, but Rump pushing him out. More worried about players getting there's than he was winning championships.