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Cal has basically told Allen to GTFO every single postgame conference.

I'm at the point I actually hope Allen returns just to piss off Cal and farrrr up BJW some more.
 
Good grief.... I feel like we’re living a real life 80’s movie where confident hero is just crushing life and then through a bizarre course of events is living on the streets. Rocky 5 or something.
 
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Cal has choked so much in the big moments he should be dead from lack of oxygen.

Just his fear and need to control not only has cost UK title(s). It cost Memphis one too.

He also has some pretty big wins here. In fact, I believe he’s won more tournament games than anyone and also more over Top 4 seeds- many in dramatic fashion.
 
Again, not trying to calm people down. We’re rightfully pissed and much of this has been coming for awhile. It’s ON Cal ...

But perspective is important. We’d be best served by an adjusted Cal, not rolling the dice on someone else.

Just my take.
 
We’d be best served by an adjusted Cal, not rolling the dice on someone else.

I would completely agree with this if I thought it was possible. Cal's an obviously tremendous recruiter, a great manager of personalities, and can coach the hell out of defense. An "adjusted" Cal who embraced analytics and built his team accordingly, would be the best coach in America. Full stop. But, I've seen nothing in 11 years that makes me think he's capable of that level of self-assessment and humility, especially at this point in his career. He just believes the game runs through the post. He believes that if he can get the biggest and best athletes, he can teach them what they need and they can physically dominate other teams through their defense and post offense. Turning him into Nate Oats (hell, or even Few/Wright) in one offseason is a big ask.
 
He’s dug into what’s worked for him in the past. He obviously needs to adjust. Hopefully, the offseason will bring some much needed perspective and self-evaluation.

- I don’t want an awkward relationship with 3 national championship-winning coaches in a row.

- I don’t want awkward relationships with all our players from the last decade.

- I don’t want to roll the dice with Mitch choosing his successor.

If this is it, we’ll find out. I’m not betting against a revival.
 
@wcc31 Those are three pretty compelling points and I'd tend to agree with your reticence on all. Although UK could solve one of them pretty easily by reaching out to Tubby and getting him in the rafters. It's way past time. (Why haven't they? Any credible info?)
 
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If Allen transfers, Cal marcus welby right behind him - would be the ultimate nail.
Last game he looked like a player that had been tossed under the bus by his coach publicly, dragged out from the road, tossed under the bus again, then backed over.

I don't care what wcc says, his handling of that kid has been malpractice, Chase could probably sue him for it. He's never publicly said so much about one player and their performance. It will cause future issues with instate and middling ranked kids that would be good fits here. If I was a rival coach I would keep every damn clip of Cal discussing Dontaie Allen.
 
He also has some pretty big wins here. In fact, I believe he’s won more tournament games than anyone and also more over Top 4 seeds- many in dramatic fashion.

At UK, we shouldn’t celebrate almost. That’s what makes us UK. He’s won a ton of games with much more talented players. His team now isn’t so talented, compared to his normal squads, and we see the results.

I think his fear and need to control causes him issues in tight or meaningful games. The high strung antics and being on high alert in those scenarios makes those around you anxious.

I’m just saying his act is wearing out. If you want to act like you are better than other folks you better f’n win.

I agree with you we just need him to adjust. No way I want him replaced by Oates or some other Billy G type flash in the pan. But good look getting Cal to change.
 
It will cause future issues with instate and middling ranked kids that would be good fits here. If I was a rival coach I would keep every damn clip of Cal discussing Dontaie Allen.


Yep. Doubt he even seriously recruits Reed Shep for this reason. If he's annoyed with BBN over Allen, this kid will be that x100, for obvious reasons - he will want NO part of that.
 
Last game he looked like a player that had been tossed under the bus by his coach publicly, dragged out from the road, tossed under the bus again, then backed over.

I don't care what wcc says, his handling of that kid has been malpractice, Chase could probably sue him for it. He's never publicly said so much about one player and their performance. It will cause future issues with instate and middling ranked kids that would be good fits here. If I was a rival coach I would keep every damn clip of Cal discussing Dontaie Allen.

Just how big of p****y do you think Allen is? Subquestion- how big of p***y are you? You keep whining about how Cal has treated the fans? I read/listen to everything the guy has said and I certainly haven’t been offended. We SUCK and are losing because of him. That’s the issue- NOT how he boo-Fing-hoo talks down to the fanbase.

Cal’s relationship with his players is as good as I’ve ever seen. Cal’s been great to our fanbase- which is chockful of spoiled idiots.
 
I'm about as big of a Cal fan as it gets...but yeah, if Allen transfers...yikes. Allen took a lot of shit off Cal when he said he "didn't want to start"...Zero chance that was said, Allen went along with the narrative when he didn't have to.
 
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I think the message has been clearly sent that seasons like this are unacceptable. I also think Cal might have been taken aback by how quickly the fans turned on him, but I think he’s gotten the message loud and clear and is probably being defensive like most people would be. I think the need for Kentucky fans to keep piling on and now rewriting the last 10 years to make Cal look as awful as possible and to pretend that this last decade has been so disappointing is really f’in annoying, childish, and exhausting. Please respect my opinion.
 
At UK, we shouldn’t celebrate almost. That’s what makes us UK. He’s won a ton of games with much more talented players. His team now isn’t so talented, compared to his normal squads, and we see the results.

I think his fear and need to control causes him issues in tight or meaningful games. The high strung antics and being on high alert in those scenarios makes those around you anxious.

I’m just saying his act is wearing out. If you want to act like you are better than other folks you better f’n win.

I agree with you we just need him to adjust. No way I want him replaced by Oates or some other Billy G type flash in the pan. But good look getting Cal to change.
I’ll be in Nashville this weekend which means I’ll likely be eating at toots in Murfreesboro. Will you be in tomorrow?
 
Just how big of p****y do you think Allen is? Subquestion- how big of p***y are you? You keep whining about how Cal has treated the fans? I read/listen to everything the guy has said and I certainly haven’t been offended. We SUCK and are losing because of him. That’s the issue- NOT how he boo-Fing-hoo talks down to the fanbase.

Cal’s relationship with his players is as good as I’ve ever seen. Cal’s been great to our fanbase- which is chockful of spoiled idiots.
This post hurt my feelings. No need to be so mean publicly, wcc.

You're right, seems like things are going well. Don't know what I was thinking.
 
I think the message has been clearly sent that seasons like this are unacceptable. I also think Cal might have been taken aback by how quickly the fans turned on him, but I think he’s gotten the message loud and clear and is probably being defensive like most people would be. I think the need for Kentucky fans to keep piling on and now rewriting the last 10 years to make Cal look as awful as possible and to pretend that this last decade has been so disappointing is really f’in annoying, childish, and exhausting. Please respect my opinion.

It’s complete and utter HORSESHIT. That’s what it is. How quickly people forget the hopelessness of Tubby and the disaster of BCG.

But he’s had a bad year so F him and everything he’s accomplished. Let’s move on.
 
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Killa - let me know if you want to see how big of a pussy Chad is. I have more documentation than you could read in a year that I save for when he does his regular "Stop being negative pussies, I'm above all this nonsense" routine.
Nah that would be like talking about a kid's plus/minus in a small sample size to cover your own deficiencies, Dk. No need to go that far.
 
Killa - let me know if you want to see how big of a pussy Chad is. I have more documentation than you could read in a year that I save for when he does his regular "Stop being negative pussies, I'm above all this nonsense" routine.

F you both and everything in that shithole known as Madisonville- how dat? And Mashburn made Ford.
 
-an adult throwing a kid under the bus is *never* acceptable. Old cal never woulda done that shit.

-those of us that saw the decline coming(og bitch bus crew)...aren't looking for cal's scalp. A tiny bit of self-awareness/humility and an admission of fault/willingness to change will do.

^too much to ask? Probably but whatevs.

-*love* c-rod. We are in an unprecedented situation with football, gang. Our team is good...bask in it.
 
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